YAFF - Yet Another 5 Footer Falcon Build

[kermet]

Your parts are so clean, What a Great Job yep I am amazed at the tech that goes into such printing, Yet here I am bout to order me a couple printers and new computers just for the service of printing lots to learn might be asking some questions on this subject. You are going along so great this saves a bunch on hard to find kit parts. I have a ship in mind that has been on the back burner just because of the rare kit parts and now this ship might be a test of my skills we will see as said WOW!!!!! Super craftsmanship keep it going and thanks for sharing. Love It!

 

[kermet]

Just to ask what printers are you playing with its got to be fun and yet sometimes crazy happenings, Printers, printers which to buy? Love it Thanks

 

[Dazza007]

Just to ask what printers are you playing with its got to be fun and yet sometimes crazy happenings, Printers, printers which to buy? Love it Thanks

I'm running a Prusa MK3S+, its been a great stable printer, really nice results.
It is a bit of a learning curve, best bet is to join a couple of facebook groups, I've found the MrBaddely Printed Droid group to be really handy - but mainly as I started printing an R2 Unit. (The printer knowledge in that group is really good, and everyone is really helpful)

 

[kermet]

Thanks a bunch just ordered a Zing printer also a Prusa MK35+ also two new lap tops so here we go looking at another printer as well one you can scan with its big its like the on Jeff Dunham use's to make his dummy's with. Lots to learn for sure now Oh me. It will be fun keep it going and Thanks for sharing

 

[Dazza007]

The frame is well underway - Dovetail joints working really well, can pick it up in one piece even tho its not glued at all.

And have started the modelling of the Inspection portals on the Mandibles. Only 6 more to go (These 2 are printing at the moment)

 

[joberg]

Great work so far; eager to see your next update

 

[Dimitri-Ajith]

Wow great update Dazza! I as still looking into how I would do the domes, but you gave me some new inspiration
I like your design because I was thinking of similiar pie parts but with the plating of the main dome structure on top.
But you know what will happen than... you need to print support. And that is 'a lot' per piece... but also for the whole dome structure.
So printing that seperate is maybe better.... Not yet looked what the angles are.. but if they can stand up straight. It could come out very clean.

The docking prints look also very clean, still amazed bij your prints it's FDM.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Dazza007]

Wow great update Dazza! I as still looking into how I would do the domes, but you gave me some new inspiration
I like your design because I was thinking of similiar pie parts but with the plating of the main dome structure on top.
But you know what will happen than... you need to print support. And that is 'a lot' per piece... but also for the whole dome structure.
So printing that seperate is maybe better.... Not yet looked what the angles are.. but if they can stand up straight. It could come out very clean.

The docking prints look also very clean, still amazed bij your prints it's FDM.

Thanks for sharing.

I am aiming for close to zero supports.
Each pie piece has a panel that sits on top that can print flat at high quality settings. With the actual framing pieces printed at low quality.
I'm also aiming to keep the weight to a minimum.
I will do some panel builds soon to see if it all works, as there's a high likely hood I'll redesign the frame bits yet again.
I'm also adding support for correct lights etc.

 

[kermet]

WOW again love the frame work this is epic can't wait to see more,. I also ordered me a laser cutter, wifey don't know about that order bout to be sleeping in the shop but she will be alright. she loves my art and once again WOW GREAT ART you got skills keep it going Thanks for sharing

 

[Dazza007]

Bit of time since my last update, finalized my frame after about 6 variations, so thats been hot on the printer - aiming for minimal weight - allowing for channels for correct lighting etc.

Have also been working on the Docking Arms and Jaws - so a few pictures of the progress.

And a small one of the Mandible Attachment bolts -

 

[joberg]

Wow...this is real engineering kind of architecture/building Good strategy using that pool table; very flat/hard surface to use

 

[Dazza007]

Wow...this is real engineering kind of architecture/building Good strategy using that pool table; very flat/hard surface to use

Thanks for the positive feedback, yes I am super happy with the frame so far, still designing the back half for the LED strips, but its definitely close. Its really a pity no one will ever see it once its finished.
I figured out early that the slate surface pool table gives excellent printing results - no wobble or shake anywhere - even when I bumped the table with a fair amount of force last week, no shift at all.

 

[Dazza007]

The central frame design is Finished - here is where I start deviating from the Studio Model - in that I have redone the engine area, based on others learnings about this - I will also be putting in the option for landing gear (Reinforced) and the landing ramp.
There is channels within the rear engine frames for 2x WS2812 RGB Strips - which will end up controlled via an Arduino and possibly a bluetooth phone app.
Next shots will be the secondary disk frame.

Currently Sitting at around 7kg or 15.5 pounds for my American friends

 

[Dazza007]

The other bits that end up making a complete frame - I also do have some indented pieces where required

 

[Bjorn]

Daz, I can see you have really put some time into this.

Well done mate!

 

[Studio Kitbash]

Dazza007,

Mind if I ask: what's your sidewall height? In the graphic, what's the height of the pink section:

 

[Dazza007]

Dazza007,

Mind if I ask: what's your sidewall height? In the graphic, what's the height of the pink section:
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All good, mines 57.5mm - please let me know if its off anywhere. I have been following some of yours and other members work for details and inspiration

 

[Studio Kitbash]

57.5mm seems like a pretty good height, and fairly dead in the middle of the existing numbers out there that I know about:

• One builder used 63.5mm (i.e., 2.5 inches)
• Another builder went with 59mm
• And the sidewall height per the "Bandai 1/72 PG Falcon Conversion method" is 54.89mm (i.e., 55mm), by my own measurement and calculation.

What I would test, to make sure I'm happy with it, before committing, is how the 2" high forward mandibles look coming out of that 57.5mm high circle, and if that height gives you enough "lip" to overhang and hide the long Tamiya 1/35 M42 Duster greeblie (Part #A8) on the upper starboard mandible and still have the lip hover "above" that greeblie with some wiggle room to spare (see greeblie #5 on Parts Map MF018 1.2, pasted below). That's the precise point of reverse-engineering from the greeblies that I would try to test the theory of your sidewall height -- because it would only give you a scoche over 1/8 of an inch for that space, which may be enough as I have not measured the height of that greeblie. But there are lots of other considerations to keep in mind, like the height of your FalGal plates, Matilda plates, etc.

This is both the "trickiest" part of the build as far as I'm concerned, and also the most fun where you get to use "parts-to-the-whole" proper proportionality in your own artistic interpretation -- what I like is how, thanks to the durasteel plate overhang on the domes, the mandible sidewalls AND the dome sidewalls seem to be "visually" consistent in their height, even though they are not. So you want enough room to wiggle "downwards" with overhanging plating, but not so much that it looks cavernous once you get up close to inspect the sidewalls.

If you're willing to tell, I'd be keen to know how you derived the 57.5mm number, as I'm fairly obsessed with "build approaches" that different modelers take, and this is one of the most consequential decisions in the whole build, in my opinion.

 

[Dazza007]

57.5mm seems like a pretty good height, and fairly dead in the middle of the existing numbers out there that I know about:

• One builder used 63.5mm (i.e., 2.5 inches)
• Another builder went with 59mm
• And the sidewall height per the "Bandai 1/72 PG Falcon Conversion method" is 54.89mm (i.e., 55mm), by my own measurement and calculation.

What I would test, to make sure I'm happy with it, before committing, is how the 2" high forward mandibles look coming out of that 57.5mm high circle, and if that height gives you enough "lip" to overhang and hide the long Tamiya 1/35 M42 Duster greeblie (Part #A8) on the upper starboard mandible and still have the lip hover "above" that greeblie with some wiggle room to spare (see greeblie #5 on Parts Map MF018 1.2, pasted below). That's the precise point of reverse-engineering from the greeblies that I would try to test the theory of your sidewall height -- because it would only give you a scoche over 1/8 of an inch for that space, which may be enough as I have not measured the height of that greeblie. But there are lots of other considerations to keep in mind, like the height of your FalGal plates, Matilda plates, etc.

This is both the "trickiest" part of the build as far as I'm concerned, and also the most fun where you get to use "parts-to-the-whole" proper proportionality in your own artistic interpretation -- what I like is how, thanks to the durasteel plate overhang on the domes, the mandible sidewalls AND the dome sidewalls seem to be "visually" consistent in their height, even though they are not. So you want enough room to wiggle "downwards" with overhanging plating, but not so much that it looks cavernous once you get up close to inspect the sidewalls.

If you're willing to tell, I'd be keen to know how you derived the 57.5mm number, as I'm fairly obsessed with "build approaches" that different modelers take, and this is one of the most consequential decisions in the whole build, in my opinion.

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Many thanks for the heads up, my Measurements have mostly been derived from an existing base model on RPF - I will post the link later, but seems to be the main go to for 5 footers.

I will focus on this area, as I only have about 3mm above and below the mandible - however as I am 3d printing things, I can cheat a little. Tho I'd much rather not.

 

[Searun]

Intriguing core design. Just remember to allow space for pit wells to be inserted, but I'm sure you have thought of that?.

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