Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!
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I think, Shahrooz missed our replied, Zlurpo and I wrote, we are offering without laminated and waxed cotton canvas, that we are using since beginning, because we don't have more better options.
We also offer laminated black fabric with two fur option, darker and lighter.
In case we found that laminated fabric definitely we'll share all BR coat threads, until that we will using the same fabric.
Mechanismo
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Right, I outlined this very same issue in this post. The screen dark-cyan depends very much on the film's color grating, IMO. So, yes the coat looks different in different settings. But one thing that seems to be 'a given' is the coat's lamination or sheen.
I saw this in the Star Wars teaser for 'Andor' and reminded me of what, possibly, René April did with her coats.
Mechanismo
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Right, as an alternate option that would be nice. But sourcing your current standard color with a laminated finish would be far more interesting IMO.
I think I agree with Mechanismo: I would rather buy a coat that's got all the design details right, even if the material is just plain cotton, and then wax it myself to approximate the sheen.
And for what it's worth, I bought one of Zlurpo's first round of coats in 2018 (back when the fur was being critiqued as slightly too orange) and I've been very pleased with it as an everyday-wear coat. Not too long ago, someone in this thread said it felt like a "cosplay coat", but I disagree! It may not have the screen-accurate finish, but I've gotten a TON of compliments wearing it around town, so clearly to a layperson it reads as a "real" garment. I particularly loved the custom-dyed cotton that they came up with. IMO it struck the perfect balance of greyish or greenish depending on the lighting.
Sadly my fabric has faded quite a bit with wear--maybe waxing when the fabric is new would have slowed/prevented that?
And for what it's worth, I bought one of Zlurpo's first round of coats in 2018 (back when the fur was being critiqued as slightly too orange) and I've been very pleased with it as an everyday-wear coat. Not too long ago, someone in this thread said it felt like a "cosplay coat", but I disagree! It may not have the screen-accurate finish, but I've gotten a TON of compliments wearing it around town, so clearly to a layperson it reads as a "real" garment. I particularly loved the custom-dyed cotton that they came up with. IMO it struck the perfect balance of greyish or greenish depending on the lighting.
Sadly my fabric has faded quite a bit with wear--maybe waxing when the fabric is new would have slowed/prevented that?
Mechanismo
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Waxing your coat with a generous dose of Barbour (or similar) wax, aside from protecting it against further wear and tear, will immediately give your coat added character, weight and a terrific sheen. Go for it!
I don't want to de-rail where the convo is at, but I have been lightly following this thread. I had to temper my excitement over my jacket as I am not sure when that is going to happen given my current schedule.
BUT! In the photos above posted by Jameel, I think I noticed one reason the collar behaves the way it does both standing and down. This has been discussed a lot, and I would still wager there may have been collar specific jackets - but that's a pure guess.
I am not sure if this has been discussed before, but it looks like there is an internal collar stand (or some sort of stabilizer) in the lower portion of the collar. Think about how on a dress shirt, there is the collar band, then the collar itself.
This would 1) help the collar stand stiffer and hold its shape when standing and wrapped, and 2) make the rear of the collar have the proper profile when folded down and resting. That way the bend isn't at the joint where the collar meets the body of the jacket.
Now this may all be well worn territory, or already included in some jackets. I am not sure, I have never handled an available jacket from any previously mentioned maker, but just throwing it out there.
BUT! In the photos above posted by Jameel, I think I noticed one reason the collar behaves the way it does both standing and down. This has been discussed a lot, and I would still wager there may have been collar specific jackets - but that's a pure guess.
I am not sure if this has been discussed before, but it looks like there is an internal collar stand (or some sort of stabilizer) in the lower portion of the collar. Think about how on a dress shirt, there is the collar band, then the collar itself.
This would 1) help the collar stand stiffer and hold its shape when standing and wrapped, and 2) make the rear of the collar have the proper profile when folded down and resting. That way the bend isn't at the joint where the collar meets the body of the jacket.
Now this may all be well worn territory, or already included in some jackets. I am not sure, I have never handled an available jacket from any previously mentioned maker, but just throwing it out there.
Mechanismo
Sr Member
IMO,
There is no need for band collar inside collar.
What you seeing it's due to height of collar, and because collar edge attached in body and absolutely neck/body part is supporting to collar edge.
The collar has started falling down as it goes up to 3-4 cm high.
it's also proving there is no inside buckram or any stiffness, that's why collar is going to down.
Mechanismo
Sr Member
That's a good point. Buckram would provide that stiffness. But, in terms of my (waxed) custom collar, having neither buckram or a collar stand , floppiness is indeed an issue.
I haven't seen correctly your collar floppiness.
If you share your collar with different angle may I help you in this regard.
johncarbon1991
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I don't want to wax a coat again. I just don't. It's smelly, it's messy, it's laborious, it's time-consuming. Plus there's the reapplying it, which is it's own endeavor. I'm all for throwing money at Jameel Ur and Zlurpo for a new, accurate coat, but it absolutely needs to have that green, pre-laminated fabric and be made out of that from the start IMHO. I don't agree with every sentiment in this thread--I'm not sure I'd pay $2k+ for it--but given that the SR is about 650 or so, and Zlurpo's coat is, what, 370? I can confidently say I'd be willing to pay a few hundred more for an accurate fabric that didn't need any modifications out of the box.
If you know of a source of good fabric, I'm all for it. It needs to be able to get to Pakistan, where my sewing team is. And there needs to be enough demand to justify whatever it's cost is. But knowing that SR uses fabric 'from Italy' isn't enough to go on :/
johncarbon1991
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I guess the question is Zlurpo , how much money would you need to try sourcing a few different options? I know fabric quantities usually have a minimum order amount. Would a pre-order deposit from members here be possible to somehow invest in a bunch of different fabric options to ship to your sewing team?
I don't know. I haven't spent too much time looking yet. And that's the real question, isn't it? Are there 25 people interested in an updated, accurate, best-fabric coat? Or is it really like 5 people?
We've made some design changes, and got some better fur. We're going to produce a new coat with all the changes, and get some good pics. But it will be with the old fabric that we've been using for years. At that point I could see what the interest is in finding a new fabric, and if there are enough people willing to pre-order to make it worth the time and money.
Mechanismo
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Honestly yes, what's seen in the picture is pretty much out of the question. For one thing, she's weathering that coat, making it look dusty. Selected coloring in the seams and such. A handheld airbrush like that would be terrible for applying a even coating over an entire garment. You'd need more like a HPLV sprayer. But even that, unless you can point to an exact product that can be bought in Pakistan or shipped to the sewing team, and you ALREADY KNOW it's the right stuff, is not going to work. Jameel can't take weeks of time experimenting with 6 different coatings on 5 different fabrics to invent the right match. Not unless you have 100 buyers willing to pre-order the coat up front for a premium price. Sorry.
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