Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[Cameron1138]

Ok, I've done some testing with the Liquitex Fabric Medium and initial results seemed promising, it darkened the fabric a shade or so and added a nice subtle sheen without stiffening it too much (definitely a bit, but not so stiff that it couldn't be used for clothing). But problems arise if it gets wet. I first tested it shortly after it dried, and the water re-activated the coating and made it turn white like it was when I was painting it on. I figured I might've not let it cure long enough, but even after letting it sit for a week it still happens, albeit not as badly. I'm going to try painting a new coat on one of my pieces and heat-setting it with a hair dryer (even though you're not supposed to have to heat-set this stuff) but if that doesn't work I'll get the Angelus Acrylic Finisher and hope that works better. They advertise this stuff as machine washable so I'm surprised it's reacting this way to water, but of course using it on its own without mixing it with paint isn't how it's meant to be applied so maybe the Angelus will be better since it's not meant to be mixed with anything.

Hey everyone, I've been reading this thread for a couple of years now, it's crazy how much dedication you guys have put into investigating every stitch on this coat. I'm interested in wearing the coat as a normal garment, not as a costume. But I have some issues... From what I can tell... Without modification the SR coat seems to be the best "out-of-the-box" one. However, my problem are body dimensions. I'm very short. About 166cm/5'5". Also I'm relatively muscular, my chest is about 105cm/41", and my biceps are about 40.5cm/16".
I'm nowhere on the sizing chart that SR provides. What I've gathered from this thread is that these tailors don't answer to emails and don't make big (if any) custom alterations to this garment... Am I just screwed here? I feel like there are no options for me when it comes to this coat.

Also... This thread is massive. I understand this might be a huge huge ask... But it would be really cool if each member here like CountLau, Cameron1138, Mechanismo and Jameel Ur could create a single, consolidated post with their definitive opinion on what coat seems to be ideal, and which alterations, materials, waxes etc... need to be made to it to achieve a more SA-look. The thread is sort becoming unmanagable in terms of information density. But if this request is unreasonable, I apologize, please ignore.

Also, I would like to ask Cameron1138. Where did you source that exact fabric on page 147? It seems to be a near-exact match. I'm not familiar with sewing and costume-making so I don't know how colors are sourced. Is it by CMYK value, RAL or some other kind of standard? I wonder if I could get a tailor to custom-make the entire coat to my dimensions if I could get my hands on a roll of that type of cotton canvas.

The fabric is Robert Kaufman 'Big Sur' canvas in blue-green.

 

[CountLau]

Ok, I've done some testing with the Liquitex Fabric Medium and initial results seemed promising, it darkened the fabric a shade or so and added a nice subtle sheen without stiffening it too much (definitely a bit, but not so stiff that it couldn't be used for clothing). But problems arise if it gets wet. I first tested it shortly after it dried, and the water re-activated the coating and made it turn white like it was when I was painting it on. I figured I might've not let it cure long enough, but even after letting it sit for a week it still happens, albeit not as badly. I'm going to try painting a new coat on one of my pieces and heat-setting it with a hair dryer (even though you're not supposed to have to heat-set this stuff) but if that doesn't work I'll get the Angelus Acrylic Finisher and hope that works better. They advertise this stuff as machine washable so I'm surprised it's reacting this way to water, but of course using it on its own without mixing it with paint isn't how it's meant to be applied so maybe the Angelus will be better since it's not meant to be mixed with anything.

The fabric is Robert Kaufman 'Big Sur' canvas in blue-green.

I personally never washed the bag I photographed, but I actually rubbed it with a wet sponge and a bit of soap after using it for a walk in earthy areas, and it came out clean without any problems.
When I used it pure on Jameel's twill after having removed the salient part of the PU coating with my disasters, then I also washed the coat in the washing machine at 30°C and it held perfect in the point where I had covered it with liquitex, however I had little left to redo the whole coat and I decided to throw myself on classic waxing methods (predominance Otter), it is also the one that had given me the most guarantees regardless of the fabric.

As I had written, I fear that any inconsistencies and problems can also arise from the type of fabric (of which if it is not an exact type identical to that used by others, no one knows how it will end unless you try).
I hope that ur 2nd attempt will go better for the reactions to the water, or that if you decide to use others, you will be lucky, otherwise it would confirm what I wrote about my doubts (that is, that either you are lucky, or you need a professional to teach you how to use acrylic media at that level and which ones, as encouraging as certain DIY jobs can be)

 

[Cameron1138]

I'll have to do a little more testing but I think I might have figured out a solution! The Angelus Acrylic Finisher is very thin, basically like water, so on its own it completely soaks into the canvas and dries very stiff and not at all shiny. But I figured since it's meant to be applied on top of paint or leather, maybe it'd work better as a coating over the Liquitex medium, so I tried that on one of my smaller samples. It went on very smoothly, dried with a perfect level of sheen (a tad shinier than the Liquitex which I'd felt wasn't quite as shiny as would be ideal) with minimal additional stiffening, and most importantly seems to be sufficiently water resistant to both protect the Liquitex from getting re-activated and turning milky as well as completely stop it from soaking through the fabric.

These aren't very good pictures, I'll take better ones once I paint a larger sample and let it cure, but this entire piece was has 2 or 3 coats of Liquitex on it, and then half of it has one coat of the acrylic finisher over that. I got it wet under the faucet and you can clearly see the line in the middle, with the side on the left being the plain Liquitex that you can see is turning milky where it's wet. There's a little bit of the milkiness on the acrylic side at the edge, but that might be where it's thinner, so I think I just have to make sure I apply a thick and even enough coat.

 

[CountLau]

I'll have to do a little more testing but I think I might have figured out a solution! The Angelus Acrylic Finisher is very thin, basically like water, so on its own it completely soaks into the canvas and dries very stiff and not at all shiny. But I figured since it's meant to be applied on top of paint or leather, maybe it'd work better as a coating over the Liquitex medium, so I tried that on one of my smaller samples. It went on very smoothly, dried with a perfect level of sheen (a tad shinier than the Liquitex which I'd felt wasn't quite as shiny as would be ideal) with minimal additional stiffening, and most importantly seems to be sufficiently water resistant to both protect the Liquitex from getting re-activated and turning milky as well as completely stop it from soaking through the fabric.

These aren't very good pictures, I'll take better ones once I paint a larger sample and let it cure, but this entire piece was has 2 or 3 coats of Liquitex on it, and then half of it has one coat of the acrylic finisher over that. I got it wet under the faucet and you can clearly see the line in the middle, with the side on the left being the plain Liquitex that you can see is turning milky where it's wet. There's a little bit of the milkiness on the acrylic side at the edge, but that might be where it's thinner, so I think I just have to make sure I apply a thick and even enough coat.View attachment 1942419View attachment 1942420

not bad, I really hope you can do it. Maybe if I have time in the winter and no one else has found a definitive solution yet, I will also try other acrylic coatings like that acrylic wax I posted some time ago.

Besides, more than making do, and managing your own fabric that you have in front of you by giving some possible ideas, there's nothing else to do I'd say...if someone who has contacts with the production wanted to explain the method properly, by now it would have come out, but maybe he would have referred to a result obtained on the cotton used in the film, which for us may be unobtainable of the exact same type, and even if it seems the same, even in that case, it could then react differently to the coating and attempts to wash or wet it.
I fear it would be even less understandable, even if the person who got one of the coats at the auction decided to speak out here: I don't see how he could still give certainties on how the result he has in front of him was obtained, without having obtained it himself, indeed