Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[Jameel Ur]

I used buckram in this custom collar, might be you are interested in this kind of work.

The waxed cotton fabric The waxed fabric turns soft while ironing on it, but Waxed canvas should never be ironed, it also it records each fold, wrinkle, and crease. definitely, it not washable, might be dry cleaning.

 

[CountLau]

I used buckram in this custom collar, might be you are interested in this kind of work.

View attachment 1792232

The waxed cotton fabric The waxed fabric turns soft while ironing on it, but Waxed canvas should never be ironed, it also it records each fold, wrinkle, and crease. definitely, it not washable, might be dry cleaning.

View attachment 1792233View attachment 1792234

ok so it sounds you confirm it's waxed for real.
I must find a way to coat (not waxing) uncoated duck properly, maybe I'll get it trying on a duck jacket I have in spare time.
I will remain in awareness for discount eventualities anyway (about the uncoated duck).

 

[CountLau]

I can do the job with the buckram, I already did, now it will be repeated since I had to reconstruct everything.

I started with the utmost consideration for the shine, taking that twill, and in the end after a while I ended up trying to remove it, because in time I found it too shiny and too dark, using it a little I felt kinda uncomfortable, and certainly too dark compared to the film but secondly, I felt too observed, many times not in a good way, and not because the coat is ugly, but simply kinda threatening aspect.

My unstable but successful modification done months after, that had given that turquoise but temporary color actually gave much more satisfaction in this way, leaving me more relaxed.

I had chosen that waxed duck before changing my mind, but I don't regret it because the question of the stiffness and handling and care of the waxed fabric (now confirmed to be so), also from experiences already had, has given me too many practical doubts, and has the problem that at least in pic, it seems to me to be a waxed one but a type which however completely lacks shine, although I consider it the most SA color of those available from anyone who sells replicas worthy of being called such (even more so than SR, which however has the merit of having a certain shine and seems to be of excellent quality, although twill and all other issues). Uncoated duck you sell, it doesn't give me the same effect, but it should more suitable for tweaks as plastic coating, if I'll ever bu sure to do it properly on that type of fabric, eventually if I'd buy another one in the future, discounted not to repeat such processes on over 300€ investment, I'll have tried methods which work for sure and eventually can go without fail for tweaking color a bit and final coating.

Tomorrow, it should be the day of truth, last color for the mix is coming, I will do the final part, then couple days to dry it, and if I'll save the day with mine, I'll finish it in a couple weeks adding new camel lite distressed solid fur and something else resewing everything. Probably the color will be perfect, just a bit clearer and with less of a shiny effect, maybe a bit too matte, but that's what I was so worried about doing, so I won't be able to complain too much anymore. Finger crossed.

 

[CountLau]

Hello everybody, open secret of the day: the fur, in theory, is not washable.
I bought different types of fur from the beginning of my journey with k coat projects 2 years ago, excluding the one already out by Jameel on the coat I bought on bep etsy channel.
Of those furs, two weren't showing anything, and this is the 3rd with a label were in clearly written.
So, IPA diluted method, done properly on the right color base, looks terrific to me, but if you soak it several times (water or whatever), it deteriorates quickly, that's also why, with all washing cycles I did, it turns into cannabis-like material.

Br49 is a movie. They didn't care if the coat has to be washed, and thrown away just after the footage, what matters the most is scenic effect. That's also why I vote for Mechanismo waxing as the most SA solution for common people, since if you're not an insider, not possible to know how to coat that cloth, even if SR did it. Jameel's laminate is nice to me, but I understood is different in the end, and I guess that's why they prefered to change in uncoated cloth (putting aside the nice but matte waxed they have).
He also wrote here time ago that laminate is rigid, and what on ew(Best of 2017 (Behind the Scenes): How 'Blade Runner 2049' created Ryan Gosling's futuristic coat) it sounds different (just "cotton, waterproofed, and then painted"), so I was fully wrong to consider it a native laminate, at least they could have coated it before sewing it, but it's not the same.

 

[Patattack]

Strictly speaking -just as a coat- WSL is simply better quality than BEP/ELS, which seems far more lightweight by comparison. WSL is more tailored, upholstered and there's no issue with baggy sleeves or paper thin quilting/lining. But, having said that, BEP/ELS does get most of the SA details right from the get-go. Having both coats, one definitely feels like cosplay garment while the other more like a proper coat.

In any event, I'm currently getting extensive work done on my ELS with a local tailor: replacing the shearling, replacing the quilting, reinforcing structuring on the shoulder panels, adding buckram to the collar and in general making the coat more tailored. I hope to post pictures of the entire process when it's finished.

Since 2018 I've been quite happy with my unaltered coat from BEP's first run, and I still regularly get compliments on it! But during that time the duck fabric has faded quite dramatically (it's more of a muted warm brown than the deep gray-green I originally bought) and the edges are starting to fray. I never thought that it "felt like a cosplay garment", but perhaps it's just not as durable as a "proper coat" and that's why it's worn out so much. Given all of the accuracy improvements that Jameel has incorporated throughout the last few years, I've been considering buying a replacement and properly waxing it--which I think would prevent the duck from fading?

Your high praise for WSL's construction has, for the first time, made me reconsider my options. I must agree that the BEP coat is a bit flimsier than I expected; in the winter, I need to wear another coat under it in order to stay warm enough. On the other hand, it's nice to have the option to wear it on its own, like in the spring or fall when the weather isn't as cold. A coat that's constructed more sturdily does sound appealing, but I wonder if WSL's would be too warm to wear as a lightweight during those transitional seasons. Plus there's the fact that WSL isn't as accurate as BEP/ELS, and it sounds like it's kind of a pain to get them to customize the pattern. I've got a lot of pros and cons to weigh...

In any case, I'll be very curious to see the results of your tailoring and hear your final verdict between WSL and BEP/ELS!

 

[CountLau]

Since 2018 I've been quite happy with my unaltered coat from BEP's first run, and I still regularly get compliments on it! But during that time the duck fabric has faded quite dramatically (it's more of a muted warm brown than the deep gray-green I originally bought) and the edges are starting to fray. I never thought that it "felt like a cosplay garment", but perhaps it's just not as durable as a "proper coat" and that's why it's worn out so much. Given all of the accuracy improvements that Jameel has incorporated throughout the last few years, I've been considering buying a replacement and properly waxing it--which I think would prevent the duck from fading?

Your high praise for WSL's construction has, for the first time, made me reconsider my options. I must agree that the BEP coat is a bit flimsier than I expected; in the winter, I need to wear another coat under it in order to stay warm enough. On the other hand, it's nice to have the option to wear it on its own, like in the spring or fall when the weather isn't as cold. A coat that's constructed more sturdily does sound appealing, but I wonder if WSL's would be too warm to wear as a lightweight during those transitional seasons. Plus there's the fact that WSL isn't as accurate as BEP/ELS, and it sounds like it's kind of a pain to get them to customize the pattern. I've got a lot of pros and cons to weigh...

In any case, I'll be very curious to see the results of your tailoring and hear your final verdict between WSL and BEP/ELS!

Sorry, maybe I missed something but, wasn't the first run bep cloth different from the duck they use from a while?
and I saw the fur also wasn't the same, it came with fleeces structure not SA at all, even if the color was more suitable of that yellow to go out without tweaking it, isn't it?

 

[CountLau]

Putting aside what about coating the cloth properly, without using any wax.

Jameel Ur hello,
I could suggest to take a piece of the laminate used for my coat, discolour it, you can try with a bleach diluted bath in the tub or with any color remover, since it's the cotton which is what that material consists for the most -even uncoated on inner side- if placed flat and without folding it on itself, it takes the treatment well evenly, than take teal and grey dyes and try to change in the right, less dark tone. It might work, losing a bit of that shine excess but without losing it almost at all like mine now.

I'd be curious if this job could've been done bordering perfection, and if yes, waiting also for other improvements pointed out, but you will have a way more appealing cloth for your coats.

I understand that for you perhaps there is no time or desire to try these processes and in some respects you have been unparalleled, but history is made on details, it is good to remember this. And those about having a cloth which keeps permanent and washable coating and a more suitable color at same time, as well as the others, are relevant too.

 

[CountLau]

I tracked, got and lightly distressed this new fur, sold as "camel" but actually comes in a ochre/mustard tone, it seems perfect to me, here next to my bep waiting to be sewed back on the coat. Do you like?
Look at the base, it's so well-structured, and the fleeces are perfect.
I read about SR owner telling here their choice for real shearling as the fake fur "won't hold up", but can you imagine this fur, with a thin buckram layer underneath on a SR, how good would it be? (without taking anything away from putting it on any other noteworthy replica too).

Look at how it is slightly raised in the movie coat, instead of squared inside a frame, it really seems just stitched on, and this thickness is perfect for achieving a similar effect and at the same time having a greater consistency and potential for durability.

 

[Mechanismo]

I tracked, got and lightly distressed this new fur, sold as "camel" but actually comes in a ochre/mustard tone, it seems perfect to me, here next to my bep waiting to be sewed back on the coat. Do you like?
Look at the base, it's so well-structured, and the fleeces are perfect.
I read about SR owner telling here their choice for real shearling as the fake fur "won't hold up", but can you imagine this fur, with a thin buckram layer underneath on a SR, how good would it be? (without taking anything away from putting it on any other noteworthy replica too).

Look at how it is slightly raised in the movie coat, instead of squared inside a frame, it really seems just stitched on, and this thickness is perfect for achieving a similar effect and at the same time having a greater consistency and potential for durability.

That shearling looks nice! Could you share where you got it/details?

 

[CountLau]

That shearling looks nice! Could you share where you got it/details?

it's the same I show you pvt, it was that "camel" that seemed once greyish and once brownish, but u know u have to forgive my poor graphic means, at today I can invest on just one thing at a time.
That fur, I bought it, in person it is actually kinda mustard tone like in pics above, but I also distressed it with usual method (IPA diluted ranger alcohol inks). The color used: espresso (a dark brown), mushroom and gunmetal (the same you tracked after my previous tweaking, if I remember well), and I put also a bit of grey left from some of my previous steps.
The brand is OVS, it's kinda large(not that much)-scale italian retailer, it was on sale on their website as "teddy coat" for women, but in the end I went directly to one of these stores here, and bought it strongly discounted, since now we here have last days winter sales and they also removed from their site it is about a week. I got it 3 days go, I'm just waiting for the buckram, without it, I cannot do all the tweaks I consider necessary before sewing the fur. In the meantime, I'm trying to do my best to recover a fresher look to the coat, but shine is lost almost totally, I will get over it and you know what I mean, at least it is confirmed I managed to make it perfectly rainproofed.

However, it's this one.
I cannot post the link cause it doesn't exist anymore, confirmed they removed it, it was the pic I sent you pvt, probably it will be restocked next winter, no other garments by ovs made with the same teddy, and they were the last ones in the shop, in fact I bought it at the risk of never finding it again, I had waited hoping to order it online size xl to have it as large as possible, but in the end they didn't restocked it and had already taken it off (I took pics below before cutting - weathering - washing, the ones above next to the coat, are about the final result)

 

[Patattack]

Sorry, maybe I missed something but, wasn't the first run bep cloth different from the duck they use from a while?
and I saw the fur also wasn't the same, it came with fleeces structure not SA at all, even if the color was more suitable of that yellow to go out without tweaking it, isn't it?

You'd need Jameel Ur to confirm whether or not the fabric has changed since Zlurpo first started offering the coats here. I know that they've started offering the laminated black fabric and the waxed gray fabric as options, but I was under the impression that the default cotton duck was the same custom-dyed color as the first run. For reference, I've uploaded a couple pictures of my coat immediately after receiving it, so you can see the original color in 2018.

For comparison, I've also taken a photo of my coat in its current state. You can see the dramatic difference between the underside of the collar (which is usually covered up, so it's barely faded at all) and the shoulder (which is heavily faded, and most of the outside of the coat looks similar).

Regarding the fur, I'm not sure I can provide a good answer. The fur on my coat definitely had an orange tint--but if I recall correctly, that was limited to the very first "prototype" batch, and BEP/ELS were trying to achieve a more muted brown color for later batches. Aside from the color, the actual sherpa material is extremely close to SA, in my opinion.

 

[CountLau]

You'd need Jameel Ur to confirm whether or not the fabric has changed since Zlurpo first started offering the coats here. I know that they've started offering the laminated black fabric and the waxed gray fabric as options, but I was under the impression that the default cotton duck was the same custom-dyed color as the first run. For reference, I've uploaded a couple pictures of my coat immediately after receiving it, so you can see the original color in 2018.

For comparison, I've also taken a photo of my coat in its current state. You can see the dramatic difference between the underside of the collar (which is usually covered up, so it's barely faded at all) and the shoulder (which is heavily faded, and most of the outside of the coat looks similar).

Regarding the fur, I'm not sure I can provide a good answer. The fur on my coat definitely had an orange tint--but if I recall correctly, that was limited to the very first "prototype" batch, and BEP/ELS were trying to achieve a more muted brown color for later batches. Aside from the color, the actual sherpa material is extremely close to SA, in my opinion.

Ok to me the fabric seems the same they have today but I cannot be sure since I don't have it, I bought the dark laminate which I decided to find a way to dye it in more clearer and SA tone, and dramatically changed in kinda no more laminated cloth, even if now I'm quite happy about the color.
Your faded coat is nice anyway, even if SA color is another thing.
Yes, I always said original Jameel fur has SA fleeces, but that yellow needs so much treatments, so now I found for mine a better fur. Probably yours was even better than that yellow, it's not the same to me.

The cloth has become a crucial point for me today if I'd have to buy another coat, and honestly, after become more demanding, I don't see a coat made with a cloth that fully match my expectations, Jameel has the best design, wsl is overall attractive for quality and price, but watching them better, none of them has the right iridescence and I would end up messing with the cloth again.
The only one who has a not fully SA, but unanimously said as quality and terrific effect with color (not too dark) amd iridescence, is probably SR in the end, even if it's another twill and needs a tailor to have for several tweaking actions. And that make me so nervous, because honestly, after all I read here and also faced with directly asking via mail, I don't really think it's right to give'em my money. They could also have their reasons, but what I read, I found it unfair and not coherent with what I figured out even before entering the forum, and having read accusing more than one member to be "bullying", and also asked for details to improve the coat which I believe probably never happened, sounds so bad to my ears.

The problem is, that nobody seems to cooperate that much anymore to improvements I would like to see before any other purchase.

So I think maybe it's time for me to shut the door to k coat argument, since I cannot achieve, even without being an identitical copy of the movie one, but not the level I aim anyway for my purposes, and I should simply stop thinking about it and keep mine ad it is, even if I probably won't do it.
As already said, with all the years that have passed since the release of the film, it is unthinkable that anyone would now start doing better, if not mostly making do as I will.

 

[CountLau]

Patattack but, wait...now I better saw your pic above, and the inner side of the collar doesn't look faded, so it only discolored on the outside into that sort of beige that I see here, and not on the inside? but how did you do it, did you wash it in some strange way? or did it aged in that way itself? how is it possible?

 

[RickC137]

You'd need Jameel Ur to confirm whether or not the fabric has changed since Zlurpo first started offering the coats here. I know that they've started offering the laminated black fabric and the waxed gray fabric as options, but I was under the impression that the default cotton duck was the same custom-dyed color as the first run. For reference, I've uploaded a couple pictures of my coat immediately after receiving it, so you can see the original color in 2018.

For comparison, I've also taken a photo of my coat in its current state. You can see the dramatic difference between the underside of the collar (which is usually covered up, so it's barely faded at all) and the shoulder (which is heavily faded, and most of the outside of the coat looks similar).

Regarding the fur, I'm not sure I can provide a good answer. The fur on my coat definitely had an orange tint--but if I recall correctly, that was limited to the very first "prototype" batch, and BEP/ELS were trying to achieve a more muted brown color for later batches. Aside from the color, the actual sherpa material is extremely close to SA, in my opinion.

wait wait wait.. is that last picture what your coat looks like now?? its like.., completely beige..
because I have some areas on mine (assuming its a middle ground between the early versions and what he does now) where there are areas of slight discoloration.. parts where it looks a little brownish.. or rust like.. initially, I thought maybe that one time I washed it.., maybe there was some left over bleach in the washing machine at the time? idk.. its very very subtle though.. you'd have to take a really hard look to notice it on mine..

I would say the fit and thickness of the coat is my biggest gripe.. mine fits me so well from a visual point.. it looks tightly tailored to me which is great.., IF the coat was thick enough on its own.. because it isn't,, I would need to layer up underneath.., but its so form fitting, I can't layer too many more shirts and sweatshirts underneath it.. and that's the drawback for me personally..

I'd consider getting another one.. but everything would need to be perfect.. and i'd rather have something laminated like our guy Countlau has sought out.. I know actual waxing is more screen accurate.., but I'd rather not have to deal with wax at all if possible..
If I could still get that leather-like shine.., without my coat being sticky and having all that stuff on it, that's what I would like to have..

so as of now.., if and when I get another.., I'm still going SR.. clearly use a better material and that material is finished well with a great color..
their only foul up for me,, is the fur material ( needs to look more coarse) and the price obviously is pretty intense..

I've heard they're warm... but i really don't know.. they appear thin to me.. but maybe that lamination makes it feel much more insulated.. I will say, since waxing mine.., its much heavier.. and handles wind much better..

the WLS looks a great deal thicker just through photos alone.. same with Magnolia.. as thin as my BEP coat is.. the newer photos of his latest version does appear thicker as well..

I think if Jameel takes up Countlau's suggestions.., we'd probably end up with the pinnacle coat.. especially with lamination. ideas.. and if he could get that almost teal color Countlau had.. hot damn!

I still have to run a second coat of Barbour so its more uniform.. BUT after rubbing the coat down with my fingertips.. all in downward motions.., my coat went from looking fuzzy to slick/wet.. bringing out some shine.. so i was really glad to see that.. I still have to trim some fur around the neckline though.. it isn't flush enough with the collar and that makes it look less pleasing to the eye.. and not as SA..

I'm VERY happy with my fur color now though.. if you were to see it in person, it's like the perfect hue.. a huge improvement from the yellowish beige it was initially. only.., I can't get both my lapels to lay the same.. the right one sits perfectly in place.., but the right one (that's connected to the face-covering extension.. that doesn't like to stay in place,, extended/winged out when open/folded over.. i know the design isn't meant to be perfectly symmetrical... but I wanted the lapel to look close at least... i think if they were a big bigger.., it wouldn't have been a problem..

 

[CountLau]

wait wait wait.. is that last picture what your coat looks like now?? its like.., completely beige..
because I have some areas on mine (assuming its a middle ground between the early versions and what he does now) where there are areas of slight discoloration.. parts where it looks a little brownish.. or rust like.. initially, I thought maybe that one time I washed it.., maybe there was some left over bleach in the washing machine at the time? idk.. its very very subtle though.. you'd have to take a really hard look to notice it on mine..

I would say the fit and thickness of the coat is my biggest gripe.. mine fits me so well from a visual point.. it looks tightly tailored to me which is great.., IF the coat was thick enough on its own.. because it isn't,, I would need to layer up underneath.., but its so form fitting, I can't layer too many more shirts and sweatshirts underneath it.. and that's the drawback for me personally..

I'd consider getting another one.. but everything would need to be perfect.. and i'd rather have something laminated like our guy Countlau has sought out.. I know actual waxing is more screen accurate.., but I'd rather not have to deal with wax at all if possible..
If I could still get that leather-like shine.., without my coat being sticky and having all that stuff on it, that's what I would like to have..

so as of now.., if and when I get another.., I'm still going SR.. clearly use a better material and that material is finished well with a great color..
their only foul up for me,, is the fur material ( needs to look more coarse) and the price obviously is pretty intense..

I've heard they're warm... but i really don't know.. they appear thin to me.. but maybe that lamination makes it feel much more insulated.. I will say, since waxing mine.., its much heavier.. and handles wind much better..

the WLS looks a great deal thicker just through photos alone.. same with Magnolia.. as thin as my BEP coat is.. the newer photos of his latest version does appear thicker as well..

I think if Jameel takes up Countlau's suggestions.., we'd probably end up with the pinnacle coat.. especially with lamination. ideas.. and if he could get that almost teal color Countlau had.. hot damn!

I still have to run a second coat of Barbour so its more uniform.. BUT after rubbing the coat down with my fingertips.. all in downward motions.., my coat went from looking fuzzy to slick/wet.. bringing out some shine.. so i was really glad to see that.. I still have to trim some fur around the neckline though.. it isn't flush enough with the collar and that makes it look less pleasing to the eye.. and not as SA..

I'm VERY happy with my fur color now though.. if you were to see it in person, it's like the perfect hue.. a huge improvement from the yellowish beige it was initially. only.., I can't get both my lapels to lay the same.. the right one sits perfectly in place.., but the right one (that's connected to the face-covering extension.. that doesn't like to stay in place,, extended/winged out when open/folded over.. i know the design isn't meant to be perfectly symmetrical... but I wanted the lapel to look close at least... i think if they were a big bigger.., it wouldn't have been a problem..

Hi Toni,

I'll give my views, if it'd be useful:

- beige is a nice color, but I asked Patattack since I can't understand how inner side of the collar kept the original color and how it has been washed and/or used, however, I guess it's not what we need, but another open secret of the day, is that I managed to resurrect my coat from my mad experiments using (after discoloured in diluted bleach 3hrs bath mild water and washer cycle with color remover) rit 4 synthetics teal+grey+ the qty was enough to recommended dose for a coat,but I added also classic powder dye (italian brand but it's the same u could find as dylon or whatever) since from my little experience, it is very consistent to add the needed concentration of the dye, so it will work for sure also with uncoated duck, even better, but you have to consider that if you waxed it and you'll ever have a need to such a processing, you must remove the wax somehow before (and with a lighter wax, I managed to do it once washing it 90° in the washer with another full cotton garment, but it's a procedure that would completely mess up the lining, so I know perhaps it is also possible by re-heating it and brushing with sponges, but not sure about that I'm not that expert)

- the lining, if inconsistent or already compromised, you should evaluate if the polyester is still good, if not, it needs a radical (and expensive, demanding work) change by replacing it all, or if you could keep it, you could strenghten with non-woven or artificial wool to be sewed onto it, but if you exceed with that, you risk to mess with the size which couldn't fit you any more

- about SR you got me, but it was not that secret, open or not, that from a while I was reconsidering their cloth as the best available, even if not a duck weave, but after you have the details of a coat like Jameel's (which however no longer seems to me to be able to provide useful feedback for further improvement, and in any case I couldn't blame him on the issue of the correct cloth because he had already made it clear in the past what problems there are in gettin'it from the manufacturer as requested), to then have the same design of the rounded seams, and a collar, which although mine is too short on the upper side, has the right shapes, you will have to end up trying your hand at what I I seemed to understand that you didn't want it initially (tweaking and tailor interventions), because the SR as it arrives will also be terrific with a high-end look etc, but it doesn't have these SA details, so maybe you should then spend even more and end up at a tailor

- if you do distress the rite way, that fur is still too yellow, but it comes out well, as you stated, the problem will be it deteriorates if you'll undergo procedures as the previously described: washing cycles and/or other dyes touch-up, make the fleeces broken quickly, and I'm believing is about all types of fake fur, I didn't understand what concerns real shearling SR put in their jackets cause he wrote is more of a solid solution but, I found a square for that with my new fur, I have enough for another coat, but I'd have replaced anyway even with a cheaper and weaker one, if I had a SR to tweak

I would also add that the girl who replied to me from SR had no problem admitting that the fabric is NOT waterproof, in fact if I ever contradict myself and get one, a lot of work awaits me, but also a bath in the light nikwax at least to give a bit of dwr (nothing compromising, without even using a washing machine which, however, according to the label, can be done on a delicate cycle on SR).
Anyway now I will finish mine as best as possible, but I understand that it won't be able to reach with this the level I was aiming for and that it would be possible, without talking about being a perfect copy of the movie one which I understand is not ponderable, but I'll be waiting for some time , if better solutions don't arrive, I think it's now clear to everyone here that I'm not kinda guy who stops until I've gotten what I wanted, although I can reduce my demands, but not on things that common sense still deems improvable, so you can imagine how it will end.
About waxing, there's a little to say: Mechanismo found very SA way to fix the shine without exceeding, rainproofing a bit, and add cold protection, but the handling especially of selfmade waxed (but also native) is what it is, and we deduce that, as nor all duck clothes neither twill clothes are the same thickness and behaviour, maybe waxing a bep didn't fit as much right as waxing a wsl.

About cold protection, I can confirm that now my laminated has just an imperceptible layer left, it was that one which was make me feel good even with low-temp, figuring out that all my questionable attempts with coating didn't end up as I wanted, I'll fix it by adding quiliting sewed to my great polyester lining, but if the wax wasn't enough/not spread rite way or simply not that suitable for bep duck...dunno, I guess that's the reason why

 

[CountLau]

RickC137 about lapels not holding shape properly, I fixed'em by putting triangle shaped buckram layers underneath and some few other stitching works on the internal structure, I also added couple magnets to better keep the left collar-lapel block folded in position when opened, but it needs at least a bit of skills about sewing

 

[Patattack]

wait wait wait.. is that last picture what your coat looks like now?? its like.., completely beige..
because I have some areas on mine (assuming its a middle ground between the early versions and what he does now) where there are areas of slight discoloration.. parts where it looks a little brownish.. or rust like.. initially, I thought maybe that one time I washed it.., maybe there was some left over bleach in the washing machine at the time? idk.. its very very subtle though.. you'd have to take a really hard look to notice it on mine..

Yep! Here's a slightly more full-body shot:

Patattack but, wait...now I better saw your pic above, and the inner side of the collar doesn't look faded, so it only discolored on the outside into that sort of beige that I see here, and not on the inside? but how did you do it, did you wash it in some strange way? or did it aged in that way itself? how is it possible?

I've had the coat professionally dry-cleaned twice, but aside from that I haven't washed it--so it's not the result of harsh detergents or heavy machine-washing or anything like that. And I've definitely never used dye or bleach. In other words, all of this fading is 100% natural, just from being out in the sun and snow for six years!

I wear this coat every day in the winter, so it gets a lot of wear-and-tear. The main body of the coat, which is fully exposed to the elements, has uniformly faded to this beige. Meanwhile, any portions that are covered-up haven't faded nearly as much. You can see in these photos that the underside of the lapels and arms are only partially faded, and the underside of the collar has barely faded at all.

 

[CountLau]

Yep! Here's a slightly more full-body shot:

View attachment 1794406



I've had the coat professionally dry-cleaned twice, but aside from that I haven't washed it--so it's not the result of harsh detergents or heavy machine-washing or anything like that. And I've definitely never used dye or bleach. In other words, all of this fading is 100% natural, just from being out in the sun and snow for six years!

I wear this coat every day in the winter, so it gets a lot of wear-and-tear. The main body of the coat, which is fully exposed to the elements, has uniformly faded to this beige. Meanwhile, any portions that are covered-up haven't faded nearly as much. You can see in these photos that the underside of the lapels and arms are only partially faded, and the underside of the collar has barely faded at all.

View attachment 1794408View attachment 1794409View attachment 1794407

ok so the difference with the collar is because it's often worn opened and folded, with no exposure to sunlight.
It's nice anyway, but in ur shoes, I would dye it and give it back an evenly spreaded hue.
With uncoated cloth is very easy using the washer (it's easier than a standard washing cycles), and with a 30°C cycle for cotton no spin no tumble dry (line drying) you should have back it as new. Lining shouldn't suffer that much with couple cycles low-temp that way, but the fur scares me, maybe if you ever think about it, better do it before a fur change, since the fur seems to be washable without (almost) any risk only with dry-cleaning.

 

[CountLau]

it would be nice to know, from any SR owner out there, if the acrylic coated twill cotton of that garment, faded by sunlight somehow during years.
For such an expense and no cooperation at all, and considering the protection of the coating, it should last almost as it is when received, for looong time.

 

[Jameel Ur]

Putting aside what about coating the cloth properly, without using any wax.

Jameel Ur hello,
I could suggest to take a piece of the laminate used for my coat, discolour it, you can try with a bleach diluted bath in the tub or with any color remover, since it's the cotton which is what that material consists for the most -even uncoated on inner side- if placed flat and without folding it on itself, it takes the treatment well evenly, than take teal and grey dyes and try to change in the right, less dark tone. It might work, losing a bit of that shine excess but without losing it almost at all like mine now.

I'd be curious if this job could've been done bordering perfection, and if yes, waiting also for other improvements pointed out, but you will have a way more appealing cloth for your coats.

I understand that for you perhaps there is no time or desire to try these processes and in some respects you have been unparalleled, but history is made on details, it is good to remember this. And those about having a cloth which keeps permanent and washable coating and a more suitable color at same time, as well as the others, are relevant too.

Hey,
I'm afrid, I won't able to do anything like that process, because I haven't tried any dying, weathering or coloring process myself.