Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[RickC137]

Here I saw it on Amazon, and it's 19€

damn.. they mark everything way up for you guys in Europe

 

[CountLau]

damn.. they mark everything way up for you guys in Europe

what I buy from asia strangely comes often with less tax and shipping costs (but getting goods back there can be a problem), and what you order in EU can have reasonable prices, so' I'd say...it depends.
From US, in general it must be worth it, in the past I bought two different types of bates (one is the same as that of br49), rather high fees but in relation if you want them, it can work, I wouldn't do the same for a pack of dye, even if I were to find some here in stock, I would like to satisfy my curiosity to see what results it gives, from the reviews and various comments out there on similar experiences also with other methods, it seems to have no equal, as far as what is possible to do on the subject

 

[RickC137]

Not a bad color at all

 

[baron von blondle]

Not a bad color at all

Did you use the IPA diluted inks method? Looks really good!

 

[Mechanismo]

Not a bad color at all

Looks nice! Did you use a spray bottle with a diluted proportion of dye and simply gradually work it into the shearling? Tell us about your method when you get a chance. Thanks!

 

[CountLau]

Did you use the IPA diluted inks method? Looks really good!

I guess he got brown rit dye to use it for the fur, but it'd be nice to understand if diluted or not and first of all, if it withstand washing cycles, since I read "all purpose" on that can, so it's not the one designed for synthetics.

Now I found and bought a rit dye (17€) for another project, I'll give an OT feedback if it works on synthetics for real, just for the community to have it.

Maybe also that one could work on the fur if heated properly to fix the color.
I'm facing little troubles with acrylic coating I made, since after washed it seems still stable but not as much as I thought:
so I will think about how to fix it, if I won't destroy the coat, I will probably use my well-tested method for a bit of distressing on the new fur, but would be nice to know if also the all-purpose version of rit dyes can do that.

 

[RickC137]

Looks nice! Did you use a spray bottle with a diluted proportion of dye and simply gradually work it into the shearling? Tell us about your method when you get a chance. Thanks!

Thanks guys,, I used the Rit dark brown dye..,
Followed the directions pretty closely..

I believe it was, add two tablespoons of the dye to every 480ml of hot water.. I also added like a tea spoon of salt and a dash of dish detergent.. ( idk why it calls for salt and dish soap to be added but that's what it said on the bottle ‍..lol )

I used the cap to measure out the dye amount.. comes out to about a tablespoon worth each cap full.., I shook it up on a regular spray bottle.. (also shook the dye bottle itself prior as it says too)

I sprayed it on liberally.. (normally the Rit dye calls for you to soak the clothing entirely.. )

So it was either spray bottle or wiping it on with a rag or sponge..

In an after thought, I think that may to the way to go.. I had to spray quite alot on there.. alot.. to get the color dark enough.. as that faux fur does not want to absorb liquid right away.. so I had to overspray.. I had gloves on, rubbed it in a bit with my hands.., but I did get a couple dye spots on the coat itself under the left lapel.. and that was the worse part of all this.. I should have put more in place to keep the coat from getting anything on it.. wrapped it in saran-wrap clear plastic wrap or something.., idk..

But in the end, the color hue turned out right and Im happy about that.. i still have to do the Barbour waxing so I'm hoping the darkening from that will help to even out the one dark spot i accidentally put on there.. it stayed pretty neat other than that one spot.,

The were a couple other spots that got dye on them too but those were directly on the other side of the lapel that won't show unless it's closed.. (and I never really planned to wear this any other way than open & un-collared) so not too big an issue for me..

But yeah, I should have been more careful..
If I just made the solution stronger, I wouldn't have had to use as much I imagine.. so maybe 3 tablespoon to anyone who decides to try this one day
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[RickC137]

Also, this tin of dressing is a little smaller than I expected.. looked bigger in the pictures.. that always seems to happen,, you buy something online and it's like a quarter the size you expected.. haha,, oh well

For this, I'm going to do the standard thing.. boil a pot of water and sit the tin inside.. but I'm going to use gloves to apply it, as I've heard that using a sponge, it just absorbs n wastes more was wax that way..

I was also going to get a cheap iron to use on it but eh.., I'm just going to use a heat gun since I already have one..

Oh and I also used a blow dryer on the fur too.. I didn't want to use a heat gun cause I figured it might be too strong n mess with the adhesive..

But now that it's basically dry.. I'm thinking I should try washing it out in case of excess dye.. I don't want it to rain at some point n get it all over my clothes.. I'd really like to just put it in the regular washer n dryer but idk if that's ideal since I already used Otter wax on it the other week

 

[Mechanismo]

Also, this tin of dressing is a little smaller than I expected.. looked bigger in the pictures.. that always seems to happen,, you buy something online and it's like a quarter the size you expected.. haha,, oh well

For this, I'm going to do the standard thing.. boil a pot of water and sit the tin inside.. but I'm going to use gloves to apply it, as I've heard that using a sponge, it just absorbs n wastes more was wax that way..

I was also going to get a cheap iron to use on it but eh.., I'm just going to use a heat gun since I already have one..

Oh and I also used a blow dryer on the fur too.. I didn't want to use a heat gun cause I figured it might be too strong n mess with the adhesive..

But now that it's basically dry.. I'm thinking I should try washing it out in case of excess dye.. I don't want it to rain at some point n get it all over my clothes.. I'd really like to just put it in the regular washer n dryer but idk if that's ideal since I already used Otter wax on it the other week

I would definitely use a regular hairdryer in the waxing process. It's better in terms of just bringing it closer/pulling back slightly to get that even, gradual spread. Again, this guy in the vid did exactly what I did and it turned out great.

Lastly, I would not risk machine washing the coat after having applied the otter wax. Just go for it IMO.

 

[RickC137]

thanks.., I can see that.., maybe the heat gun would be overkill.. I'll just use the hairdryer then..,
but what do you think about the dye?? I just let it all dry on there.. I should probably give it a re-rinse.., right?
I just wish I could throw it in the dryer afterward lol instead of blowdrying the fur all over again

 

[RickC137]

So here is what the fur ended up looking like once completely dry.. not as dark as my initial photo unfortunately but it is a little darker in person than what you're seeing in these photos..

I might go over it again.. idk.. what do you guys think? Should I go even darker..? It's like one shade darker than what you're seeing here.. idk if it's worth the hassle all over again but I still have tons of dye left..

You can see I got alot of dye on the duck sadly.. : / but atleast it's all under the lapel areas.. probably will still be able to see it even after the waxing.. so that's a bummer for sure

 

[Mechanismo]

thanks.., I can see that.., maybe the heat gun would be overkill.. I'll just use the hairdryer then..,
but what do you think about the dye?? I just let it all dry on there.. I should probably give it a re-rinse.., right?
I just wish I could throw it in the dryer afterward lol instead of blowdrying the fur all over again

Unfortunately, I have no idea about dyes because, to date, I've never had to use them. It seems to me that since you applied it with a spray bottle and the synthetic nature of the faux shearling itself, it wouldn't 'bleed' too much in the event that you get soaked. One thing you can try maybe, thinking out loud here, is putting the coat face down and pouring water over the collar and lapel shearling portions, allowing the excess dye seep away from the coat's fabric...it that makes any sense... In any event, I think CountLau might be able to give you some good advice here.

 

[Mechanismo]

So here is what the fur ended up looking like once completely dry.. not as dark as my initial photo unfortunately but it is a little darker in person than what you're seeing in these photos..

I might go over it again.. idk.. what do you guys think? Should I go even darker..? It's like one shade darker than what you're seeing here.. idk if it's worth the hassle all over again but I still have tons of dye left..

You can see I got alot of dye on the duck sadly.. : / but atleast it's all under the lapel areas.. probably will still be able to see it even after the waxing.. so that's a bummer for sure

Shearling-wise, that shade looks pretty decent to me. Regarding the dye, yeah, it's a bit of a shame, but... you'll see how the coat darkens quite a bit with the waxing and that should help make it less conspicuous.

 

[RickC137]

Shearling-wise, that shade looks pretty decent to me. Regarding the dye, yeah, it's a bit of a shame, but... you'll see how the coat darkens quite a bit with the waxing and that should help make it less conspicuous.

thank you.. yea im really hoping that it darkens up quite a bit

 

[CountLau]

thanks.., I can see that.., maybe the heat gun would be overkill.. I'll just use the hairdryer then..,
but what do you think about the dye?? I just let it all dry on there.. I should probably give it a re-rinse.., right?
I just wish I could throw it in the dryer afterward lol instead of blowdrying the fur all over again

it depends what temperature can your hairdresser reach...mine is about 90° C peak, I also used a bit heat gun to fix the acrylic coating (and also for many of the previous steps I tried on the fabric), but for me it's tricky since I must not going over 100° or the PU lamination melts, so I always stay very little at a time, till the dye grips without exceeding and avoiding to burn the coat.

For the fur I avoided heat gun, or I'm afraid it will crumple.

I wouldn't have used a color not designed for synthetics on the fur (synthetic), but the rit should take a little the same on nylon so if you're lucky it won't fade, of course now here in ur pics it still looks a little too yellow but maybe it's better in person, and in any case it's not that yellow, it's not bad, I don't want to regret you and posting on the PC it's a classic that colors are often misunderstood.

I'm going to try rit for synthetic also on the coat, I invested on it more money, wanna know more, my coating resists a bit but it was messed by the even lite ironing I did to fix it (there, a careful heat gun use will be a must for my next interventions to finally have a successful result), so now I want to remove again a bit coating and color, restart for the 4th time, and using the very perfect color mix, then I already have acrylic polymer enough to repeat the process without any ironing (if not in the very end to give shape but with a cloth underneath), and there will see if my coat resist...I must definitely say that despite seeming liteweight and smooth, this laminate twill is giving proof of indestructability for real (at today).
I swear, just a bit steps more and I will stop anyway hoping to still have a coat.
The duck, probably would be even more resistant, but I saw yesterday on a store near my house, a duck cotton jacket, that was well quilted for winter, but in that case I noticed that wasn't that tough, it was comparable to my twill now.
So then, it's always impossible to exactly match a cloth except having the same manufacturer of br49 production!
For the fur, I think I should say the same, so I would say that there is no need to worry too much, but on my new one I will try to do a remarkable job...not even know if the rit will be the perfect solution for that, I hope 4 u, I was curious about that...but on mine I will rely on my trustable method with alcohol inks again.

From rit instructions: "heat to at least 93°"...so considering the fur has any natural fibre at all, if with the hairdresser won't be enough, and you experience other leaks and want to touch it up, you might consider using (very lite and fast passes) heat gun.
I also ironed it with baking paper, but must being careful not to use it too much, it was fine, but then if you continue to work on it, you end up deteriorating the fleeces in that way, so when and if you use strong methods, it will still have to give you a sensible limit, or you'll end up having to replace the fur

 

[RickC137]

Yeah I was talking about the heat gun vs blow dryer more for the duck waxing.. not the fur.. I think a heat gun is too much for the fur..

I knew you were gonna say it was still too yellow!! Haha,, I swear it is a little more dark in real life.. my phone makes it look lighter for some reason..

But I really like the extra dark look it had when it was wet.. idk I'm still debating another go at it..

Either way, I should have it all done this weekend.. feel like I've put off the waxing for too long

 

[CountLau]

Yeah I was talking about the heat gun vs blow dryer more for the duck waxing.. not the fur.. I think a heat gun is too much for the fur..

I knew you were gonna say it was still too yellow!! Haha,, I swear it is a little more dark in real life.. my phone makes it look lighter for some reason..

But I really like the extra dark look it had when it was wet.. idk I'm still debating another go at it..

Either way, I should have it all done this weekend.. feel like I've put off the waxing for too long

the fur...the lighter museum version, under lights through the glass of the case, it seems quite a distressed yellowish camel, the other museum version which which seems to have just been made new, to me could be reddish brown, on the movie I can see it kinda mustard most of the times, so again, probably we should stop worry too much...

considering your is uncoated duck, you should go safe using heat gun (but could it burn the fur on the other side if you stay a while on the fabric side to perfectly fix the wax? that's the matter 4 u)

waxing properly is not that obvious job...but you should always being able to re-heat the wax and remove it if exceeding, struggling a bit with the sponge. That's one of the reason I prefered to look for an easier solution to be handled, others are trying to laminate a cloth myself properly (but I'm not fair saying that, since I start from an even thinnered PU laminate), almost free washing possibilities, less weight etc. But the look of the waxed is imho the closer to so many details I see on that cloth.
Taking as a sample stills where the coat should not be covered with dust, after fighting and not even soaked in rain or other,
to me this shine

is different from this

even if I posted so many other pics where it could be more SA, but it was still way too dark and too shiny. It is nice, but it has a leather-like look, and to me has nothing to do with the greenish grey of the movie: in such a bright natural lite, it shoul have completely a different tone and brightness, shouldn't overshine like this (probably this laminate is too thick in PU even if the cotton counterpart is not tough as duck) and have a slightly stiffer, ironed, tidy look, even with couple creases but not that way.
I am like this, and after I even try to use it properly, a garment, I deduce what is really my case, and then either I do it as I say or nothing.

Having read in their articles that it would be a "very dark greyish green", imo, I figured out is misleading. Having re-watched it thousands of times, I can only consider it a gray (aqua-greenish, but gray) of medium brightness. Neither dark nor light: those are environment-dependent shades.

So, if I'll save my coat in the end, I'll probably lose most of the shine, even too much, but I wouldn't come back to this above: the coat must have a sober look, to me. However, it's also a matter of taste, I already had a little time to understand how I want it to look, and again, it's impossible to match to cloth without having all their means and knowledge, but I decide my coat will still be rainproof and even more than before, and in (eventually with aqua shades) grey color, with a brownish distressed fur.

I think that if you like a style that he has in a scene (shiny wet dark rather than not dry lighter grey or whatever), also considering how many times on the thread, not only I have come to realize that the coats in the film were not all identical, if you really want to bang, you might as well choose a situation in which the coat deems it more similar to how u want it to look on you, and doing it like this, if it doesn't match other scenes, it's time to get over it.

 

[RickC137]

yea i get ya.., there's too many change-ups from scene to seen.. and considering that basically the entire film is either shot at night, indoor/artificial lighting, or heavily overcast.., the way it looks in the sun in reality never really comes across.. so its on us to interpret..

I agree that the last photo is definitely too shiny.. ( is that your photo?? that coat looks navy blue.. whereas before yours had a more green/aqua light 'teal' color I really liked.. but yea, as far as texture goes.., there's definitely a middle ground.. that I hope to find..

using the heat gun with the Otter wax.., that wax melted deep into the coat right away.., like it was never even done.., that's what I'm trying to get away from.. I definitely don't want it to look matte.. just a light shine and a more... 'wet' look rather than shiny..

and again with the fur.., I guess i am getting over critical about it.., but I really do like how it looks darker.., it just makes the fur seem of a better quality..

btw, are you 100% sure they used multiple coats throughout the actual film production though??

I know on bigger budget films like that, they often have 2 or 3 spares made for any important props or costumes.. like., I know for sure there were more than 1 of the 70s style red leather jacket made from Fight Club.., but I never read anything as to whether the other were used at all while actually filming or if they just remained there as a back-up in case of an issue..

( Considering they found the OG jacket in a thrift store and had to custom dye, tailor, and stitch it for the film.., im sure it wouldn't be an easy jacket to recreate properly at the time.. not even knowing who genuinely made the real one.. so my guess is that they only actually used the one.. and the few behind the scenes photos where Brad Pitt is wearing it, out in the bright daylight, yes, it does make it look like a whole different color.. (since that's yet another film shot almost exclusively at night or indoors..)

 

[CountLau]

yea i get ya.., there's too many change-ups from scene to seen.. and considering that basically the entire film is either shot at night, indoor/artificial lighting, or heavily overcast.., the way it looks in the sun in reality never really comes across.. so its on us to interpret..

I agree that the last photo is definitely too shiny.. ( is that your photo?? that coat looks navy blue.. whereas before yours had a more green/aqua light 'teal' color I really liked.. but yea, as far as texture goes.., there's definitely a middle ground.. that I hope to find..

using the heat gun with the Otter wax.., that wax melted deep into the coat right away.., like it was never even done.., that's what I'm trying to get away from.. I definitely don't want it to look matte.. just a light shine and a more... 'wet' look rather than shiny..

and again with the fur.., I guess i am getting over critical about it.., but I really do like how it looks darker.., it just makes the fur seem of a better quality..

btw, are you 100% sure they used multiple coats throughout the actual film production though??

I know on bigger budget films like that, they often have 2 or 3 spares made for any important props or costumes.. like., I know for sure there were more than 1 of the 70s style red leather jacket made from Fight Club.., but I never read anything as to whether the other were used at all while actually filming or if they just remained there as a back-up in case of an issue..

( Considering they found the OG jacket in a thrift store and had to custom dye, tailor, and stitch it for the film.., im sure it wouldn't be an easy jacket to recreate properly at the time.. not even knowing who genuinely made the real one.. so my guess is that they only actually used the one.. and the few behind the scenes photos where Brad Pitt is wearing it, out in the bright daylight, yes, it does make it look like a whole different color.. (since that's yet another film shot almost exclusively at night or indoors..)

yes it is a pic I also posted in the past. It's also my phone's low-end camera fault, many other pics were better, my last pics where the result was a lighter tone, as said, weren't about a stable/final result and that's why I ended doing such a mess, but as I always said, that cloth was still too dark, even if at that time, I had already done several tweaks to the color, but as I wrote, weren't stable. I wouldn't have risked compromising the coat unless I was fully convinced of my intentions.

About the number of (slightly different) coats used for Gosling, it has clearly been said several times, but articles I read just say different numbers (somewhere say 6 or 9,somewhere else 15 coats totally "because R.G. wore a costume for the entire movie" Blade Runner 2049: The Coats, Contact Lenses And Haircuts).

About the color, the duck you have maybe considered closer to what I wanna reach (I won't use the SA term anymore for that, since what I wrote in previous post, explain clearly that what is accurate in one scene with a coat, will be less so in another), but I wanna try to recover a bit of satin/traslucid effect with a polymeric coating (then washable) I still have, together with an even clearer and more distinct colour.
Look carefully here, there is the soft light of the office, but the difference between fur and grey of the jacket brightness is minimal, if not even the fabric is lighter, considering the distressing on the fur, and this is a scene where the coat shouldn't be affected by a wet/dirty/dust/recent fights etc.

and I'm still fully convinced that even if it didn't look completely shiny anymore, it would still suit me better, if I can match the color properly. The problem is...will it still hold?

 

[CountLau]

to show even better how misleading certain possible interpretations are when seeing the foreground in the fog... it is obvious that it is an effect given by the environment, just like when walking down a dark street, but it is equally obvious that the color is far from black as if from a dark shade.

Then it's not that I hadn't had doubts before buying mine, but in some pics the shiny and the lights made it look less dark, and in any case I would have started from a native laminate (so what I got, excluding SR and there being no others on the market).
Of course, if the coating had worked well on the duck too, in the end I would have been better off getting one like yours and modifying it, but in hindsight you can't go far, you end up in it, you then calmly think about it live, keep your fingers crossed that it holds up and we move forward with the right projects.

Basically yours (considering wsl difficult for me to modify on some crucial details of design and collar), remains the best to start from IF it could be coated correctly at least a bit, otherwise one coat/cloth is as good as the other, because each of us will have always some distance from the film, there is little to do.

Just to clarify, in the last pic here, it was the moment in which it seemed most "SA", but I had only given the background with a turquoise gray which still had to be fixed by the terrible previous acrylic medium with an additional gray tint I used but, there, in person I looked a bit like the fairy godmother! However, as said, I was more spontaneous in wearing it, not having the matrix / shady boogey man style, I won't mean it is a light color and I love dark color but, that still far from what I want, in pic it's great but it wasn't that great to me actually, I knew I still had to fix it... so if none of us goes in person to see the coat from the film, imagine how we will ever correctly realize things as they are