Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

Hey,
I'm afrid, I won't able to do anything like that process, because I haven't tried any dying, weathering or coloring process myself.
it's not that difficult, but I understand it's tricky, I've dyed almost everything dyeable in my wardrobe but as always admitted I'm not that pro, and then I cannot explain how to do it better.
But in case you missed it and for common knowledge, your laminate is surely native (infused with plastic by machine), but by chance I discovered how the inner side of the cloth (which is full black instead of the dark grey effect given outside by PU I guess) easily lost its color even at the beginning with just mild water, firstly I thought it was from the fur which I heavily distressed to cover the yellow, but after other ahnd-washing procedure, even at the beginning, I understood than well before my radical intervention about colors, it was fading and the fur was perfectly stable in the sametime, it was the fabric, as may be typical of the black color but certainly from a cloth (like this) not totally incorporated in plastic, therefore without being attributable to what can be deduced by reading the articles with greater attention and interpretation , that the one in the film is instead a laminate intended as waterproofed cotton, perhaps with acrylic as made by SR although theirs is certainly a little different, yours is not, but imo it still had good potential to compete since it could lose color, and so then recolored perhaps in a more suitable tone.

So, you'll see but, at least I had to try :)
 
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Malibu139 Hello,
could I kindly ask you, to say something to the community about how SR cloth behaves after a while, so if the cloth lose color or not, after washing or exposure to sunlight, and if it has some even little water repellency, for example if you pour some water over it if it slide away or soak the cloth, giving so some details more than what SR girl wrote me about a year ago? (and I don't think they changed nothing in the cloth till now)
And also any other detail about how much durability could we estimate (also about lining, magnets effectiveness and so on), if anybody would get a coat from them for such a price.
Thanks in advance, just curious for now, but useful for many I guess
 
CountLau I have the SR short coat but it is the same material and lining as the long. No magnets on this one.

This is the 3rd winter I have had it. I wear it regularly ( multiple times per weekin winter) but not necessarily daily. It has not faded to my eye.

I have not needed to wash it - similar to waxed coats I have chosen to wipe it when needed and that has been sufficient. Water does not bead on it and what SR told you about not being water repellent is accurate.I can pour some on later too and see , never really looked for that.

It’s a heavy and sturdy jacket for its size and the quilted lining is solid and not flimsy. I was told a medium for fitted and large for layering for my size. I chose large and can layer. It is warm but would need layers for the cold areas like RickC137 talks about.

The finish has held up and is not rubbing off or fading . The elbow points that contact chairs are not worn either. It “feels” as expensive as it is if that make sence?

Here it is hanging under mostly fluorescent light. One in normal house lighting and one outdoor. All pics in the last couple weeks or so. Hope this all helps.
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CountLau I have the SR short coat but it is the same material and lining as the long. No magnets on this one.

This is the 3rd winter I have had it. I wear it regularly ( multiple times per weekin winter) but not necessarily daily. It has not faded to my eye.

I have not needed to wash it - similar to waxed coats I have chosen to wipe it when needed and that has been sufficient. Water does not bead on it and what SR told you about not being water repellent is accurate.I can pour some on later too and see , never really looked for that.

It’s a heavy and sturdy jacket for its size and the quilted lining is solid and not flimsy. I was told a medium for fitted and large for layering for my size. I chose large and can layer. It is warm but would need layers for the cold areas like RickC137 talks about.

The finish has held up and is not rubbing off or fading . The elbow points that contact chairs are not worn either. It “feels” as expensive as it is if that make sence?

Here it is hanging under mostly fluorescent light. One in normal house lighting and one outdoor. All pics in the last couple weeks or so. Hope this all helps.
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it looks a little too glossy in some pics, but in others it looks perfect, like the one in the closet with other jackets.

In any case, my Jameel bep will continue to exist, only now it's quite matte, but I mean I'll have to decide what kind of shine I want :), I certainly won't make an offer to the guy who bought the original Gosling one for like 180000 dollars I thought I had read, so if I ever get an SR and it is too shiny, maybe it will dull a little over time and it will be better, I will limit myself to the changes that matter, the important thing is that if someone spends that kind of money, they don't it is a fabric that loses consistency and colors too easily, and for waterproofing I would rely on a good nikwax with a light bath without even risking it in the washing machine although it says that it is possible

.I'll evaluate, I'm in no hurry and a coat, I'll have it finished soon. For now it seems obvious to me that if I want to try a fabric that has a treatment similar to what the production might have done, I would have no other choice, something tells me that therefore it is not a native laminate nor a waxed one, although the one in the film has very much the look of wax.

Thank you for the clarification, it will still be useful to the community. If you can try pouring water, thanx again in advance waiting to know the result
 
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it looks a little too glossy in some pics, but in others it looks perfect, like the one in the closet with other jackets.
Yeah that’s part of it, it looks different all the time. Sometimes like leather, sometimes regular cotton , sometimes maybe a raincoat? it even sounds like leather when I move my arms a certain a way.

All that aside one thing is for sure it is unique (not just SR or mine but all iterations of everyone’s coat) and I think that might be one of the biggest draws to this coat.
 
Yeah that’s part of it, it looks different all the time. Sometimes like leather, sometimes regular cotton , sometimes maybe a raincoat? it even sounds like leather when I move my arms a certain a way.

All that aside one thing is for sure it is unique (not just SR or mine but all iterations of everyone’s coat) and I think that might be one of the biggest draws to this coat.
very good, please try pouring water when u could, thanks
 
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I just received a update from WSL on the coat I order. I asked them to follow precisely the direction provided by Mechanismo in his PDF, here is the result. What you guys think? Please help with feedback.
 

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I just received a update from WSL on the coat I order. I asked them to follow precisely the direction provided by Mechanismo in his PDF, here is the result. What you guys think? Please help with feedback.
So I guess they're putting a new fur, which looks overall better than what I've seen about previously (which was more similar to wolf fur), are they gonna put a zipper to hold left collar and lapel together, instead of 4 stitches or piece of fabric?

If they just could also make a SR type coating on that duck it would be terrific, however it seems to me that they are starting to follow the instructions, after several requests about orders from those who want the coat made according to that file, sooner or later it seems that it will come in their heads that they have to do it, it's better this way.

It's just a shame that the fur, instead of remaining in relief, appears well squared within the frame, however I would say great progress
 
So I guess they're putting a new fur, which looks overall better than what I've seen about previously (which was more similar to wolf fur), are they gonna put a zipper to hold left collar and lapel together, instead of 4 stitches or piece of fabric?

If they just could also make a SR type coating on that duck it would be terrific, however it seems to me that they are starting to follow the instructions, after several requests about orders from those who want the coat made according to that file, sooner or later it seems that it will come in their heads that they have to do it, it's better this way.

It's just a shame that the fur, instead of remaining in relief, appears well squared within the frame, however I would say great progress

The fur is better, I asked them if was possible to send the fur and they came with this option that looks good to for me.

Not sure about the zipper to hold left collar and lapel together, instead of 4 stitches or piece of fabric. I going to ask them. Do you have a example of zipper? I can use and ask them to implement it, I remember to read here that its one of best options.


What you mean by "instead of remaining in relief, appears well squared within the frame"? if you have a reference picture of how it should be would be great to provide to them.
 
I fear they have already done the stitching that way, but what I mean is this, look around the neck on this pic how much the fur gives an effect as attached above, you could also see that from about every other still from the movie (except some, for example the moment when k is shooting at sapper, where the coat seems barely not the same, with unpadded shoulder and "framed" fur too), here it remains nice and puffy without any stitching being visible

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here, however, from your photo n3, the fur is sewn well under a visible seam.
It isn't bad, but it's different effect.
I imagine it's not easy to explain, but how furs are sewed by Jameel but also visible with the real sheep used by SR, they feature a more SA effect, while instead Magnoli seems to me doing the same way wsl is doing on yours now

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About the zipper, I saw it here in others who bought wsl, piece of fabric is used by SR instead, I personally decided to completely sew myself closing that opening since air currents were not healthy for my throat as I figured out after worn it for a while, so that's up to you, but probably Wsl is simply going to put a zipper on that part for your coat as they did on others, if you didn't write something specific about it.
 
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I just received a update from WSL on the coat I order. I asked them to follow precisely the direction provided by Mechanismo in his PDF, here is the result. What you guys think? Please help with feedback.
That is exactly right! Wow. Bang on. That taper, with the collar being wider just behind the nape of the neck is critical.
I'm really pleased to see that they're finally "getting it". It might be worth suggesting that they include this pattern/collar placement/attachment on all of their BR 2049 coats.
 
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I fear they have already done the stitching that way, but what I mean is this, look around the neck on this pic how much the fur gives an effect as attached above, you could also see that from about every other still from the movie (except some, for example the moment when k is shooting at sapper, where the coat seems barely not the same, with unpadded shoulder and "framed" fur too), here it remains nice and puffy without any stitching being visible

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here, however, from your photo n3, the fur is sewn well under a visible seam.
It isn't bad, but it's different effect.
I imagine it's not easy to explain, but how furs are sewed by Jameel but also visible with the real sheep used by SR, they feature a more SA effect, while instead Magnoli seems to me doing the same way wsl is doing on yours now

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About the zipper, I saw it here in others who bought wsl, piece of fabric is used by SR instead, I personally decided to completely sew myself closing that opening since air currents were not healthy for my throat as I figured out after worn it for a while, so that's up to you, but probably Wsl is simply going to put a zipper on that part for your coat as they did on others, if you didn't write something specific about it.
Yes, this is a good point, CountLau. The edge around the long side of the collar should be an inch, technically, but 'de facto', for most of the film, the way the shearling droops down over the edge, it looks like it's half an inch for almost the entire movie.

So this:

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As opposed to this:

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This is how it looks on mine with the half inch:

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Yes, this is a good point, CountLau. The edge around the long side of the collar should be an inch, technically, but 'de facto', for most of the film, the way the shearling droops down over the edge, it looks like it's half an inch for almost the entire movie:

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ok, I mean this

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that seamline isn't SA. Not because it should be covered, but
1 no piping effect at all there (on the shoulder panel, I can barely see some on pics available)
but most of all, 2 the fur doesn't have to be closer to the edge, it simply should be in relief (maybe I'm using the wrong term to say that it should look swollen compared to the fabric, but it's not a matter of distance from the edge, in fact there could even be a little more so that from the seam you can see a bit more of the fabric underneath, I hope to be able to explain that)
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ok, I mean this

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that seamline isn't SA. Not because it should be covered, but
1 no piping effect at all there (on the shoulder panel, I can barely see some on pics available)
but most of all, 2 the fur doesn't have to be closer to the edge, it simply should in relief (maybe I'm using the wrong term to say that it should look swollen compared to to the fabric, but it's not a matter of distance from the edge, in fact there could even be a little more so that from the seam you can see a bit more of the fabric underneath, I hope to be able to explain that)
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It's true, I had to stress that they include piping in that portion. That's why it looks okay on mine, IMO. That's one thing that WSL really needs to improve, that piping effect in general.
 
It's true, I had to stress that they include piping in that portion. That's why it looks okay on mine, IMO. That's one thing that WSL really needs to improve, that piping effect in general.
ah, so yours looks better because you insisted. I find hard to understand how to explain this to people who don't feature it on their own...we'll see. At today, I'm still waiting to finish mine, to see if someone else would do improvements requested.
I guess wsl cannot show any piping effect to be added, unless you order them a coat and stress them constantly well before they're already finishing any sewing work. But maybe something is going better, I will listen to them, if they wanna speak to convince me. I did my questions anybody, anyhow
 
skyshade I mean this. Maybe they still could do something to redo that part, or maybe they still have to finish that edge.
Or maybe am I wrong with that? But what it's clearly visible to everybody by watching stills from the movie, it confirms what I'm pointing out.
It's up to you to ask them about it or not. And if they wanna add some "piping effect" perhaps just doing in certain way that seamline I suppose it's missing, probably they still could do it eventually, without that much of a pain...



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Thanks for all the examples, I sent them the directions asked to redo this part to make the fur to stay over the seamline and try to add the pipe effect. I asked if there any additional cost to redo, no problem for me if they charge, I want to have the best final version from them so I dont not need to do anything here.
 
Thanks for all the examples, I sent them the directions asked to redo this part to make the fur to stay over the seamline and try to add the pipe effect. I asked if there any additional cost to redo, no problem for me if they charge, I want to have the best final version from them so I dont not need to do anything here.
to me, they've already improved their fur, but in ur shoes, I'll be honest, I would replace it anyway, but I can consider that I became very demanding now, so about me, it can be considered a question in itself and I can be seen as a somewhat obsessive guy, I don't make a problem of it and others shouldn't, because ultimately never forget the importance of enjoying things for what they are, also without having to take the endless tour of finding details to improve without ever giving themselves peace.

But what I think needs to be said, I don't keep to myself for long.
You could do it at a later time, it won't be a problem if it is already set correctly from the point of view of how it is sewn, you could track other SA furs as for instance uniqlo or many others seen here also lately, but probably, if you then had to replace it, even if you put it as they did nothing would change, what does change instead is what I consider the missing stitching line.
Because obviously, imho there are three lines: there is a double stitching visible along the entire length of the edges were shown, as clearly visible in the film, and then it is obvious that the fur is sewn to the coat, therefore for the covering effect that I highlighted in the previous photos taken from the film but, obviously it means that there is a third stitching line (only fur side), hidden by the fur itself. I wanted to say this.

For the piping effect, I'm still waiting to have an answer from them, I just asked out of curiosity because I wanted to at least try to have contact with them after having had some prejudice that I had expressed here after some works seen on coats received from other members, and it didn't seem appropriate to confirm me like this without trying to contact them firsthand, and I'm also trying to have other useful information in the case, if they ever reply to me (but I only wrote on friday), however I assume the piping is feasible when making a second seam, I am studying a way to add it to another jacket that I have in canvas and it has seams without piping, I am not a pro tailor and I have family knowledge and humble means, but the results are encouraging also for any other coat with no piping I could eventually buy in the future, however I could not guarantee, also based on the different availability of local tailors to carry out work, that I would do something like this after, it can't be taken for granted.

It doesn't seem like real piping to me (there are very specific methods that are used during the sewing phase for this), but just a way to give an effect on some seams (but it would be better to have it done in the sewing phase anyway, than not after it's already made-up), which on the movie coat are precisely only on some seam lines.

However, if at wsl they carry out what is asked of them, and give me feedback, certainly at least for their commitment and willingness to listen and try to develop the details submitted to them, they will have earned my respect (without saying that I didn't have it now, but my doubts were justified).

For the rest, since I got into a crisis with my coat precisely due to too many attempts at modifications (and inevitable loosing and aging) on the fabric that had satisfied me but over time especially regarding the color, I had to reevaluate, we'll see.

I will talk when the time comes, although I must admit that on that aspect, there is little to say:
do you want non-waxed type laminate? as of today either get Jameel's laminate (native, 99% it'd be PU), or get SR (just coated, acrylic, and probably the only coating method actually made similar to the movie, if what we read in the articles could be considered certain and not actually a waxed cloth that they used). Both twill weave.
For me the first one is gone and figured out too dark over the time I wore it, if something new doesn't come out as I say, 2+2=4 it's understood what I will do despite what I think about sr availabilty for customers.

The color of the wsl is still very nice, it would be really nice to see that duck coated properly, perhaps with acrylic from the manufacturer as if by professionals, with the necessary iridescence which I don't see here, but the purchase seems very respectable choice anyway.
 
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