Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[CountLau]

yea im just really glad the lettering on the back doesn't stand out dramatically.. because this is the discounted one, there were no available pictures of the back.. and i assume its an older model of it.., so even though the new photos show the subtle back print, I had no way to be sure that this one had it too.. honestly, the coats pretty tight on me.. i have broader shoulders and chest so its going to be difficult to get too many layers of clothes on underneath.. and i wanted this is as my 'full on winter' coat.. (since its so long) for those 32F and below temp days.. here in the Northeast USA..,
Yes, i'm still going to try and make the fur a darker brown.. and try to trim down a bit.. (although the fur along the neck is pretty comfortable, its a bit distracting) ... im just glad its a little more brown and less yellow than I was expecting..
I'm just gonna focus on the waxing right now.. if it ends up darker from it.. I don't mind.. I have a large bar of solid Otter Wax i got a while ago.. although, I wish I had the more liquid/paste version.., I seen some videos where I can actually melt the wax first.. OR.., I do have a heat gun in the garage... I can just use a heat gun to get it to absorb better.. I think I'll be alright.. like I said my main concern is getting that fur color darker..

I don't think I'll be doing anything else with it just yet.. I also get pretty obsessive about my projects but I'm going to keep it simple for now lol,
the idea of laminating it feels risky to me.. cause it can crack right? I just don't have any experience with something like that.. feel like it will be a little more work than I care to deal with right now

am I good to wash this in a machine first ya think? I'd like to.. since I don't know where it's been, who had it, and how long they wore it lol..
and I figure if i'm going to wash it.., I should do so before i start this waxing process.. its also kind of wrinkled.. which isn't all that bad because it gives it a more worn, authentic look.. but I imagine after washing and waxing, that won't really matter anymore

it's more or less the same degrees outside here now, this morning everything was frozen and having to do a test drive with a zero electric motorbike, I didn't have the balls to put on the coat and I opted for a heavy ski down jacket, it would have been fine since I increased the padding but I still don't want to use it until the color is finished, I'm preserving it without needing to wash it before the last retouch on the color.
With that non-laminated cotton (yours) = ok otter, ok heat gun (I don't like to try with the heat gun, because on PU I'm afraid of messing up with the cloth easily, it doesn't take much to set more degrees than 90°C and burn the lamination). I used it when I waxed my first full cotton-made coat actually.
U guessed it right, avoid DIY laminations, it almost always ends up ruining everything, there are also other confirmations here besides mine, although someone seemed satisfied, I would never try it again: the laminated fabric must be native, it's not like wax. Renée April, it's written she received a nice cloth and send to manufacturer for lamination it means clearly before any tailoring, then the color was not nice to them any more and they decided to paint over it (as I'm trying to do).

Someone here washed exactly that type of coat, bought by Jameel (or whoever) like you, and I thought I saw it had slightly lost some color, but they had also done it on purpose, it's not that it was bad, and they actually used the washing machine.
I washed mine 5/6 times in the washing machine since the purchase but also because I keep touching up the colors (so it fits), but in the end this, together with the weak consistency of the lining, contributed to definitively deteriorating it imo, which is why I changed it with one that is now wash-proof (top-notch and indestructible), but the artificial wool padding always suffers quite a bit, so I think it's better to wash it by hand in the tub and hang it up without wringing.

Yes, if you wax it then you could wash it only handly gently with a lite sponge, not even more tub full bath or you mess up the wax coating.

 

[CountLau]

Oh and I've also seen videos where people used irons on their clothes to distribute the wax evenly.. idk if that will damage/destroy the iron though.. I'm thinking it might.. and I don't have a spare to work with

you should iron it. It is a proper way to wax the coat. you could use baking paper avoiding any direct contact with the iron.
To fix some of the dyes I used on laminated cotton, I did the same on plastic material, but the heat is so dangerous on that cloth so I put a thick cotton cloth in between to be sure modulate the heat and never too much with the iron without moving it, it works to fix dyes a bit but it's not enough, so over the gray that's why I'm also waiting for the liquitex medium: with this, I will do a last very lite ironing anyway, but actually it shouldn't be needed to fix the last dye perfectly. With yours (uncoated), you shouldn't have to deal with such issues.

 

[CountLau]

This is what I was going to use

when I waxed my first I was to buy it, but I fell back on a good but cheaper one. That one is very expensive, here more than Barbour wax, maybe cause it comes from US and we have shipping and fees,dunno

 

[CountLau]

So for the record, I made a non-SA change: I closed that opening in a stylish way but without allowing any air to pass towards the throat anymore. No more rely only on the 4 stitches, they are there just for style now. I had enough.
Mechanismo pointed out his zipper used by wsl as a solution I guess for that reason, in my experience zippers (if not shielded under or over them) are not enough (as well as being more visible), so that, exactly as in the notorious Gosling k's foggy close-up, the lower collar edge goes a bit over the upper left lapel edge, and stay there to protect your throat, but mine now is perfectly sealed (letting it opened even if tweaked, was still a bad idea).
Riding motorbikes or dealing with freezing winds that come down here at the foot of the Alps would sooner or later kill even the nexus 10.
Maybe leaving that part open was a new attempt to limit replicants' lifespan?
SA fundamentalists will get over it, from a visual pov almost nothing changes and a lot is gained in terms of health and practicality (that's the real world, u know...)

 

[Mechanismo]

wsl needs for so much work, I believe that Mechanismo can count on rather customer-oriented tailors in its area, because otherwise making those revolutions on the collar etc I don't see it possible, imho.

As for design, if you don't have these possibilities, I still see mine (bep/els) as the best, but if you can't get your hands on many things, take it for granted with a size already made and fur not suitable, so I don't see it a sensible option, sure not with a discounted one, but not even with a new one, unless you could plan to change the fur (distressing on that yellow is a demanding and radical work, and if you get too carried away and insist too much like I did, in the long term you end up damaging the fleeces) and at this day, I must say also the lining.

As a fabric, I would have to agree that SR is the best, but still a pure twill (I'm still struggling to study possible small color adjustments to make my Jameel slub twill laminate more SA, which is still a little too dark despite been damning me for many months when I have time, I'll see what comes of it), but on the rest, it's definitely a nice quality coat that can be worn even as it is without worries about being SA or not, but if you really want to look alike to K, I don't see that as an option either, because too much work to do on the design details and fur to change without any possibility to modify it

I actually don't agree that WLS "needs a lot of work" post sale provided they follow the instructions you give them.

Case it point: in 2022 Shahrooz had them make a coat with my collar pattern/specs and correct SA attachment.

At first, they succeeded in making the collar itself correctly, but still failed to attach the collar per the SA specs provided. So, I had Shahrooz send them this correction:

A few weeks later, they sent him this photo with the correct collar attachment/placing:

A couple of thoughts. It's a pity that WSL doesn't simply attach their collar correctly after this has been pointed out to them on several occasions. The same can be said for their collar design which is also incorrect. Also, as pictured above, they used passable faux shearling instead of that hideous faux fur they seem to use more often now.

WSL is duck which, as CoutLau points out is very well suited for heavy waxing which is absolutely essential.

Strictly speaking -just as a coat- WSL is simply better quality than BEP/ELS, which seems far more lightweight by comparison. WSL is more tailored, upholstered and there's no issue with baggy sleeves or paper thin quilting/lining. But, having said that, BEP/ELS does get most of the SA details right from the get-go. Having both coats, one definitely feels like cosplay garment while the other more like a proper coat.

In any event, I'm currently getting extensive work done on my ELS with a local tailor: replacing the shearling, replacing the quilting, reinforcing structuring on the shoulder panels, adding buckram to the collar and in general making the coat more tailored. I hope to post pictures of the entire process when it's finished.

 

[RickC137]

Idk.. this fits me quite proper.. arms are actually more tight than anything on this BEP..
So I did the waxing..
It was an interesting process.. when I first rubbed on the Otter bar, it gave that shine I remember from the film.. that leather look..
But once I use the heat gun.. it melts right in, leaving the 'felt/fleece' look I was talking about before.. which is fine.. makes it alot darker too.. I like the green you guys have on yours.. this is now looking more grey.. but I don't mind..
I just had to wash it prior.. too much of a smell.. it's still there a bit..

Have any of you dealt with alot of lint too??
I've already used a lint roller twice.. idk where it's all coming from..

I'll have to get more wax.. I ran through the whole bar quickly.. I did the entire coat but after melting alot of it in, I want a surface coat.. I feel like no matter how much wax I use it's never going to be enough lol maybe I should get the paste version next time around.. this was very time consuming and required alot of effort.. I still keep going back to reheat certain areas.. like in the seams.. and anywhere there's streaks.. but now that it's waxed, it has more of a shape like the film version.. a bit more stiff, stays in place,,
So with more wax, trimming and dying the fur.., I'll be good.. oh and the lettering on back looks even more subtle and SA than before too which is great to see..

 

[CountLau]

Idk.. this fits me quite proper.. arms are actually more tight than anything on this BEP..
So I did the waxing..
It was an interesting process.. when I first rubbed on the Otter bar, it gave that shine I remember from the film.. that leather look..
But once I use the heat gun.. it melts right in, leaving the 'felt/fleece' look I was talking about before.. which is fine.. makes it alot darker too.. I like the green you guys have on yours.. this is now looking more grey.. but I don't mind..
I just had to wash it prior.. too much of a smell.. it's still there a bit..

Have any of you dealt with alot of lint too??
I've already used a lint roller twice.. idk where it's all coming from..

I'll have to get more wax.. I ran through the whole bar quickly.. I did the entire coat but after melting alot of it in, I want a surface coat.. I feel like no matter how much wax I use it's never going to be enough lol maybe I should get the paste version next time around.. this was very time consuming and required alot of effort.. I still keep going back to reheat certain areas.. like in the seams.. and anywhere there's streaks.. but now that it's waxed, it has more of a shape like the film version.. a bit more stiff, stays in place,,
So with more wax, trimming and dying the fur.., I'll be good.. oh and the lettering on back looks even more subtle and SA than before too which is great to see..

unfortunately, waxing it on a cotton that is not native waxed (the Barbours in fact are, and for a truly complete maintenance, it is ok to do it yourself, but in theory radical interventions are job for manufacturer's laboratories, which in fact here offer it as a service after sales for those who don't want a new one and have an original one), I imagine it's difficult for it to keep great shine.

From that pov, the laminate does not disappoint, let's say that now I am actually looking for how to mattify it, because I am finishing my last coloring (acrylic with medium, or it doesn't hold the dyes properly), and the excess shine continues to be a problem. I'll see in the end. I have no feedback to give about lints, laminated is lint free obviously

 

[CountLau]

I actually don't agree that WLS "needs a lot of work" post sale provided they follow the instructions you give them.

Case it point: in 2022 Shahrooz had them make a coat with my collar pattern/specs and correct SA attachment.

At first, they succeeded in making the collar itself correctly, but still failed to attach the collar per the SA specs provided. So, I had Shahrooz send them this correction:

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A few weeks later, they sent him this photo with the correct collar attachment/placing:

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A couple of thoughts. It's a pity that WSL doesn't simply attach their collar correctly after this has been pointed out to them on several occasions. The same can be said for their collar design which is also incorrect. Also, as pictured above, they used passable faux shearling instead of that hideous faux fur they seem to use more often now.

WSL is duck which, as CoutLau points out is very well suited for heavy waxing which is absolutely essential.

Strictly speaking -just as a coat- WSL is simply better quality than BEP/ELS, which seems far more lightweight by comparison. WSL is more tailored, upholstered and there's no issue with baggy sleeves or paper thin quilting/lining. But, having said that, BEP/ELS does get most of the SA details right from the get-go. Having both coats, one definitely feels like cosplay garment while the other more like a proper coat.

In any event, I'm currently getting extensive work done on my ELS with a local tailor: replacing the shearling, replacing the quilting, reinforcing structuring on the shoulder panels, adding buckram to the collar and in general making the coat more tailored. I hope to post pictures of the entire process when it's finished.

you surely have your good reasons.
The fact remains that there is no real laminated duck, and the only two laminates are that of Jameel and Sr, and by removing SR, for certain design details, I think Jameel has done the best.

I'm happy that Wsl handled what you asked of them better, but I wrote like this because, from what Joe69 highlighted, with others they instead missed the opportunity to confirm their availability to carry out instructions (yours, which he says sent them).
Then my opinion may be worth less, many of you have been here for years and I haven't even been here for a whole year.
Anyway, I'm just wondering...making that collar open that way even on the wrong side...why?

 

[Mechanismo]

you surely have your good reasons.
The fact remains that there is no real laminated duck, and the only two laminates are that of Jameel and Sr, and by removing SR, for certain design details, I think Jameel has done the best.

I'm happy that Wsl handled what you asked of them better, but I wrote like this because, from what Joe69 highlighted, with others they instead missed the opportunity to confirm their availability to carry out instructions (yours, which he says sent them).
Then my opinion may be worth less, many of you have been here for years and I haven't even been here for a whole year.
Anyway, I'm just wondering...making that collar open that way even on the wrong side...why?

Yes, WSL are an odd bunch. They get a lot of things right, the quality is top-notch but for basic design areas they are way off course.

It's so frustrating how all of the SA details are spread unevenly among so many coat providers, yet none one them can bring them all together in a single coat.

 

[RickC137]

Yes, WSL are an odd bunch. They get a lot of things right, the quality is top-notch but for basic design areas they are way off course.

It's so frustrating how all of the SA details are spread unevenly among so many coat providers, yet none one them can bring them all together in a single coat.

it's always like that lol.., with just about everything out there.. there's always some drawback to handicap a product
you figure these ppl put so much effort into it.., why not just go the extra mile..

oh wow,, looking back I seen this from Jameel.. isn't Jameel the guy who runs BEP...?? now this is exactly the kind of finish I would like
it looks exactly like leather.. I guess I need a gallon of wax lol.. i doubt I'll ever be able to get it looking this good though anyway.. damn..

 

[CountLau]

it's always like that lol.., with just about everything out there.. there's always some drawback to handicap a product
you figure these ppl put so much effort into it.., why not just go the extra mile..

oh wow,, looking back I seen this from Jameel.. isn't Jameel the guy who runs BEP...?? now this is exactly the kind of finish I would like
it looks exactly like leather.. I guess I need a gallon of wax lol.. i doubt I'll ever be able to get it looking this good though anyway.. damn..

I actually don't believe Jameel is running bep, bep should be a collaboration with Zlurpo, but maybe I'm wrong (never fully understood).

This is my coat when I bought it. then I transformed it with many tweaks. The fur is the same, the color is pretty dark, the weave is a slub twill and not duck, but above all, it's what I was looking for, even if now I convinced myself have it in a grey/aqua tone, no more dark that way...working on it, just finished first acrylic paint, hoping not having screw the pooch, but that's how I wanted, the dark tone seemed kinda threating to people. From first sight, it gains shine (I committed myself to remove it before, sigh...), stiffness (another not welcome point, even with the medium), but I'm crossing finger believing in what it should happen after 2 days rest for the fabric when I would be able to finish it with lite iron with a cloth in between and re-touches if needed, about the color is very nice and even, it seems a new one just bought now. I will see with my very last chance, knowing it was a risky maneuvering from the beginning, but really hope in a happy ending, anyway it goes I will take it as it comes, this time...

 

[RickC137]

Ohh so that's lamenated.. that's why it's so shiny.. OK that makes sense.. yeah I think the more blue color you did does look better.. but it was still fine the other way too imo

The way you have it now has more of the hues that Soul Revolver does.. I'll still probably end up buying the SR one at some point.. but atleast now I know how this coat looks on me and I got to do some experimenting with it on my own.
This coat is decent but it doesn't feel like a high end product..
I know the fur styling is important but I want the cotton quality and wax job are the most important things to get right imo.. and atleast SR does a darker fur now even though the texture of it isn't right

 

[CountLau]

Ohh so that's lamenated.. that's why it's so shiny.. OK that makes sense.. yeah I think the more blue color you did does look better.. but it was still fine the other way too imo

The way you have it now has more of the hues that Soul Revolver does.. I'll still probably end up buying the SR one at some point.. but atleast now I know how this coat looks on me and I got to do some experimenting with it on my own.
This coat is decent but it doesn't feel like a high end product..
I know the fur styling is important but I want the cotton quality and wax job are the most important things to get right imo.. and atleast SR does a darker fur now even though the texture of it isn't right

exactly, that's why I said that SR can be worn immediately even without doing anything to it (the fur is ok but regardless of SA I personally don't like it cause it seems carpet to me, but you definitely better go out with that than a yellow one), then making it the same as the one in the film is another matter, but basically, at least from what we have seen here, it is the coat with top-notch materials as probably anyone else from notable vendors out there (at least for the main fabric even if twill), too bad that they too do not they bother for nothing and by having the fabric made here in Italy at least they don't ask for duck instead of that twill, I'm convinced that the manufacturer here would be available and maybe I could even imagine who it is, certainly not I couldn't contact them myself and start doing the coat by having me send fabric just for one (they would never produce enough duck for the request of a single private individual), the problem however is also that if one doesn't want the letters on the back, I SR had written among the first, they don't do that either...in short, it seems excessive to me as a closure to customizations

 

[CountLau]

so here my very last result in this hard try to dye the fabric and make it brighter.
Now the color is well evened, but despite having diluted dyes in liquitex medium opaque, I find it so much more shiny and the dye mixture came out stiff the same in the end, I must say that it bothers me a lot because it clearly needs more work (in turn risky and so long to be done slowly and carefully, but at this poimt I'll get over it), but I well understood this was the only way to obtain a result that resemble a coat recently buyed and no more of a distressed one in dark color regardless of all the tries I've done. Color is a bit lighter and not perfectly SA but I find it nicer and more spontaneous to wear.

Next step will be lite sanding, isopropanol lite cleaning with a rag, usual lite ironing with cloth in between (I was very careful but I must say that with all the things I did on it, this laminate surprised me, because although it immediately seemed quite versatile to me, I could have destroyed it by now), then a 2/3 days rest and I'll wash it (liquitex guarantee is machine-washable in lite cycle but I guess it's a really bad idea, at this point), probably I will also leave it soaked in water for a good while (as for similar situations I saw in the past, even if this one is by far the most challenging and risky I've ever got myself into in matter of DYI tailoring and related).
This should solve stiffness and shine exceed issues, and also regain a bit of breathability surely lost at the moment.

Then I'll see the final result...probably, when in the future I'll change the fur, I will also put some more artificial wool padding on certain areas, since these works inevitably press the quilting.

Really hoping not to hurt myself with yet another risky tweaks, but although I certainly can't still be comfortable in the position I'm in now, I have to say that if I compare these pics with my previous, or just scrolling up seeing the ones RickC137 put recalling original Jameel's one, I wouldn't go back and it seems to me to be on another planet (for the better). As a famous italian song from about twenty years ago says, it is said that for every renunciation there is a considerable compensation,but the exception to the rule undermines the norm...see you guys!

 

[Mechanismo]

Idk.. this fits me quite proper.. arms are actually more tight than anything on this BEP..
So I did the waxing..
It was an interesting process.. when I first rubbed on the Otter bar, it gave that shine I remember from the film.. that leather look..
But once I use the heat gun.. it melts right in, leaving the 'felt/fleece' look I was talking about before.. which is fine.. makes it alot darker too.. I like the green you guys have on yours.. this is now looking more grey.. but I don't mind..
I just had to wash it prior.. too much of a smell.. it's still there a bit..

Have any of you dealt with alot of lint too??
I've already used a lint roller twice.. idk where it's all coming from..

I'll have to get more wax.. I ran through the whole bar quickly.. I did the entire coat but after melting alot of it in, I want a surface coat.. I feel like no matter how much wax I use it's never going to be enough lol maybe I should get the paste version next time around.. this was very time consuming and required alot of effort.. I still keep going back to reheat certain areas.. like in the seams.. and anywhere there's streaks.. but now that it's waxed, it has more of a shape like the film version.. a bit more stiff, stays in place,,
So with more wax, trimming and dying the fur.., I'll be good.. oh and the lettering on back looks even more subtle and SA than before too which is great to see..

Hey RickC137 first off, congrats, that coat looks great on you. The sizing is perfect.

So just my my experience on how to wax properly. Below are some pictures of when I added my second coat of Barbour waxing (the first coat had been a year earlier when I bought the coat).

I would definitely recommend using Barbour wax (or something identical). I bought two of their standard size cans for 15 euros or so each. I needed about a can and a half to cover the entire coat. So, it's pretty inexpensive.

This is a great video tutorial and I would definitely recommend following it to the letter:

Start by getting the dust or lint off with a roller.

After heating up/melting the can of wax in a saucepan with water, use a sponge and really daub it on there, panel by panel.

When you're done with a given panel, blow a hair dryer over it to bring out the sheen and wipe away any excess wax. Then go onto the next section and so on.

Like it says in the video, it's important to do it in a hot room.

I'm not sure what method you used on your coat, but end result should not have a matte finish. Having said that, this sheen seen in these last photos a few days after re-waxing it. The duck fabric will eventually absorb the wax and not be as shiny, but it will definitely give it that leather-look and texture. That's the great thing about heavy waxing, it adds character, weight, texture and drape to the coat.

Here's what my looks like these days, two and a half years after re-waxing...

 

[Mechanismo]

so here my very last result in this hard try to dye the fabric and make it brighter.
Now the color is well evened, but despite having diluted dyes in liquitex medium opaque, I find it so much more shiny and the dye mixture came out stiff the same in the end, I must say that it bothers me a lot because it clearly needs more work (in turn risky and so long to be done slowly and carefully, but at this poimt I'll get over it), but I well understood this was the only way to obtain a result that resemble a coat recently buyed and no more of a distressed one in dark color regardless of all the tries I've done. Color is a bit lighter and not perfectly SA but I find it nicer and more spontaneous to wear.

Next step will be lite sanding, isopropanol lite cleaning with a rag, usual lite ironing with cloth in between (I was very careful but I must say that with all the things I did on it, this laminate surprised me, because although it immediately seemed quite versatile to me, I could have destroyed it by now), then a 2/3 days rest and I'll wash it (liquitex guarantee is machine-washable in lite cycle but I guess it's a really bad idea, at this point), probably I will also leave it soaked in water for a good while (as for similar situations I saw in the past, even if this one is by far the most challenging and risky I've ever got myself into in matter of DYI tailoring and related).
This should solve stiffness and shine exceed issues, and also regain a bit of breathability surely lost at the moment.

Then I'll see the final result...probably, when in the future I'll change the fur, I will also put some more artificial wool padding on certain areas, since these works inevitably press the quilting.

Really hoping not to hurt myself with yet another risky tweaks, but although I certainly can't still be comfortable in the position I'm in now, I have to say that if I compare these pics with my previous, or just scrolling up seeing the ones RickC137 put recalling original Jameel's one, I wouldn't go back and it seems to me to be on another planet (for the better). As a famous italian song from about twenty years ago says, it is said that for every renunciation there is a considerable compensation,but the exception to the rule undermines the norm...see you guys!

Nicely done!

 

[CountLau]

Nicely done!

I thank you man, but unfortunately we spoke soon...

I sadly have to admit that I've done it out of the box, today when I got home I realized with horror that the acrylic paint was peeling, as this laminate seems unsuitable for almost all types of colors (only two of the ones I used held, but they weren't opaque enough and had convinced me to take a risk in the end) having a marked elasticity, as you might notice yourself if you try to pull it longitudinally (vertically it doesn't behave the same way) does not hold such colors even when using medium.

I therefore thought I had crossed the line, and should be ready to throw everything away.

Incredibly (but not fully without damage), I managed to use a customized program of my washing machine (interrupting the delicate cycle to soak it in 30° water for a long time), after a couple of passes with light fine-grained abrasive paper and isopropanol, it recovered at least the initial appearance (the dark one), now I'll have to cross my fingers and work hard to fix this ********, but when I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it.

Although the lining is now indestructible, if I manage to recover it as it seems, it will take me a few weeks (every time washing it takes forever to dry in winter without using dryers), and in the meantime perhaps I will be able to evaluate the arrival of that famous new fur that however, if I won't be forced to throw it away, would be happy to change it.

The elastic behavior must be given by this polyurethane which must be really well fused with cotton, I don't think it is also elastane but I couldn't bet on it, strange material but for now it really seems to be saved even beyond all expectations, truly incredible, the current color is dark again, but if I manage to clean the residual marks well (otherwise I will try to cover them) a rather uniform aged effect on the lighter greyish has emerged, and it'd be not bad in the end, but it's early to talk for me.

I must therefore absolutely invite you to refrain from trying to color it, I will probably try again but only to try to recover it and with the colors that I have already had prove to be safe for the fabric.
It must be said that black, clearly visible internally compared to the dark gray externally, is perhaps losing color with every wash I do, with the result that it lightens even a little naturally, and if it ends up being significantly lighter on the outside too, I could try with some classic washing machine dyes for cotton (like gray and emerald green) but without using them in the washing machine, as I fear it would be too aggressive and if I manage to fix this mess, I swear that I will have more respect both for the coat and common sense within my limits, I had so much talk about being careful but in the end this happens because I got carried away like an idiot despite having said not to act that way.

Imo, those ducks that Jameel has (of which the waxed one I was interested in is also far too stiff) will not have any of these elastic properties, in any case I was told that of the ones returned at a discount (I asked on bep etsy channel) none of the waxed ones have any, if not maybe one but they sell them alraedy packaged and they wouldn't even be able to check inside (?), they took a pic and if that and the description/measurements suggest it, maybe it is (and obviously, then at that price I would buy a wsl with it, so then I certainly wouldn't get him another one at this condition, sorry).

I will do everything possible and even more to recover mine, if the color held it would have been an excellent turning point but that's not the case, it's just a semi-disaster that I will already be phenomenal if I can patch it up.

Be careful guys...

In any case, there's no way out, RickC137 aspires to laminate, imo it's good, SR I look at it every now and then but really at that price with all those details out of line I would never take it, wsl worries me I don't want to end up having to revolutionize everything to a non-laminate as I would have to do with an SR (which however would cost me 3 times as much), in the end I think I will put an end to this epic and I will make an effort to recover mine by doing it in the simplest way and without further torture for the fabric, at most if I change the fur I stress it just a little before assembling it, then that's it.

Frankly I think I have to judge, I definitely got a little too confident with my limited skills, but the truth is that none of the pros fully hit the target, and no, not even if they joined forces. It would simply come out as a better specimen, but still not quite SA, a serious laminated duck is missing, and given my recent terrible experiences, I would even say already the correct color, much more crucial than the fur.

If anyone manages to correctly color this or another laminated cotton, please explain here for everyone's good, it would be really interesting to understand how.

 

[RickC137]

I thank you man, but unfortunately we spoke soon...

I sadly have to admit that I've done it out of the box, today when I got home I realized with horror that the acrylic paint was peeling, as this laminate seems unsuitable for almost all types of colors (only two of the ones I used held, but they weren't opaque enough and had convinced me to take a risk in the end) having a marked elasticity, as you might notice yourself if you try to pull it longitudinally (vertically it doesn't behave the same way) does not hold such colors even when using medium.

I therefore thought I had crossed the line, and should be ready to throw everything away.

Incredibly (but not fully without damage), I managed to use a customized program of my washing machine (interrupting the delicate cycle to soak it in 30° water for a long time), after a couple of passes with light fine-grained abrasive paper and isopropanol, it recovered at least the initial appearance (the dark one), now I'll have to cross my fingers and work hard to fix this ********, but when I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it.

Although the lining is now indestructible, if I manage to recover it as it seems, it will take me a few weeks (every time washing it takes forever to dry in winter without using dryers), and in the meantime perhaps I will be able to evaluate the arrival of that famous new fur that however, if I won't be forced to throw it away, would be happy to change it.

The elastic behavior must be given by this polyurethane which must be really well fused with cotton, I don't think it is also elastane but I couldn't bet on it, strange material but for now it really seems to be saved even beyond all expectations, truly incredible, the current color is dark again, but if I manage to clean the residual marks well (otherwise I will try to cover them) a rather uniform aged effect on the lighter greyish has emerged, and it'd be not bad in the end, but it's early to talk for me.

I must therefore absolutely invite you to refrain from trying to color it, I will probably try again but only to try to recover it and with the colors that I have already had prove to be safe for the fabric.
It must be said that black, clearly visible internally compared to the dark gray externally, is perhaps losing color with every wash I do, with the result that it lightens even a little naturally, and if it ends up being significantly lighter on the outside too, I could try with some classic washing machine dyes for cotton (like gray and emerald green) but without using them in the washing machine, as I fear it would be too aggressive and if I manage to fix this mess, I swear that I will have more respect both for the coat and common sense within my limits, I had so much talk about being careful but in the end this happens because I got carried away like an idiot despite having said not to act that way.

Imo, those ducks that Jameel has (of which the waxed one I was interested in is also far too stiff) will not have any of these elastic properties, in any case I was told that of the ones returned at a discount (I asked on bep etsy channel) none of the waxed ones have any, if not maybe one but they sell them alraedy packaged and they wouldn't even be able to check inside (?), they took a pic and if that and the description/measurements suggest it, maybe it is (and obviously, then at that price I would buy a wsl with it, so then I certainly wouldn't get him another one at this condition, sorry).

I will do everything possible and even more to recover mine, if the color held it would have been an excellent turning point but that's not the case, it's just a semi-disaster that I will already be phenomenal if I can patch it up.

Be careful guys...

In any case, there's no way out, RickC137 aspires to laminate, imo it's good, SR I look at it every now and then but really at that price with all those details out of line I would never take it, wsl worries me I don't want to end up having to revolutionize everything to a non-laminate as I would have to do with an SR (which however would cost me 3 times as much), in the end I think I will put an end to this epic and I will make an effort to recover mine by doing it in the simplest way and without further torture for the fabric, at most if I change the fur I stress it just a little before assembling it, then that's it.

Frankly I think I have to judge, I definitely got a little too confident with my limited skills, but the truth is that none of the pros fully hit the target, and no, not even if they joined forces. It would simply come out as a better specimen, but still not quite SA, a serious laminated duck is missing, and given my recent terrible experiences, I would even say already the correct color, much more crucial than the fur.

If anyone manages to correctly color this or another laminated cotton, please explain here for everyone's good, it would be really interesting to understand how.

The problem is.., your coat was already perfect the way it was.. I wouldn't have touched it.. it had a shiny emerald color but also the teal hues.. the teal is what made it really stand out.. I would have just left it,, with that leather looking shine

 

[RickC137]

Nicely done!

Thanks : ) yeah your coat looks great.. I'll have to get the Barbour wax bc a whole bar of Otter wax hardly put a dent in it.. the leather look is crucial.. mine looks more like felt material instead of canvas or leather.., after the wax melted in lol

 

[CountLau]

The problem is.., your coat was already perfect the way it was.. I wouldn't have touched it.. it had a shiny emerald color but also the teal hues.. the teal is what made it really stand out.. I would have just left it,, with that leather looking shine

I managed once again to resurrect it, but obviously after so much mistreatment, there are several problems and the work to be done adds up.

Somehow I will get out of it, I have understood that the one I already have is the coat that will stay with me, I have not had satisfactory answers and feedback to be able to think about retouching other fabrics and models that are worthy of investing more money in it all over again and other resources and time, with what is offered even insisting