Hey,,
Thanks for all your input.. I'm not too worried about how I'll look wearing it.. I've had ppl tell me I look like Gosling a bit,, my facial features, and I love both Blade Runner movies I figure, why not.. most ppl will have no idea its from a movie.. I'm not like real 'nerdy' about it.. I'm not like a comic-con costume type of person.., I just think it looks cool .. so I'm not worried about it being all that percisely screen accurate.. I just want the material looking good..
There's one that will fit me on there.. perfect shoulder size for me and arm length..
So, do you actually run BEP..?? Or you just bought one from them...
The photos you just attached,, that's a BEP coat?? It looks great..! I know you redid it, but it's outstanding.. great hue.. and that 'wet look' .. that's what I want.. the dry canvas look is cheap looking.. needs that waxed shine.. or.. laminated.. right? Is that what I need to do? Laminate it? What's the difference.. I already have a bar of Otter wax and a heat gun.. I was just going to do that..
I have to try recoloring the fur collar.. it's like mustard yellow.. I don't care if it ends up black, I have to try.. lol and it's a discount one.. it's already kind of warn.. I don't mind if it looks a bit rough.. I just want to know the best thing to use.. I have brown shoe polish in a liquid form already... maybe that will do.. put it in a spray bottle maybe...
So I know the Soul Revolver material is the best quality, made in Italy, etc.. but you are saying they are essentially still the same material right? The Soul Revolver and Big Effects... you said its called Twill cotton? Or twill canvas.. that right?
If I laminate it instead.. what brand name should I use and how much of it will I need to apply it thoroughly throughout the whole coat..? Thanks..
I really wanted to go all out and get the SR one but I just can't afford it right now.. atleast this way I can test to see if I like it on me.. I did the same with the red Fight Club jacket.. I bought a cheap one and oiled it.. and then later, bought the SR version.. I actually like the thin leather on the cheap replicas.. more like the film jacket
Thanks,
yes I'm not a cosplayer either, but as will be clear to everyone here, I'm a little obsessed with the style of this coat in order to try to make it both SA and pragmatic as much as I can.
No, I'm not a member of BEP, I bought this coat from them (which is actually made by Jameel, a member of this forum) last spring, and since then I've started modifying it myself (I'm not a pro, but I have some skills , and in this period also enough time to waste).
The laminate (of which I seem to only see this one on the market today by Jameel and SR), gives this shiny effect which I have reduced a little with a lot of risks and effort and I'm still behind it, you can get it, although not identical, or waxing an uncoated one, but I had already made a K coat entirely by myself with normal cotton, then waxed and it didn't give the desired result (but seeing the excellent result achieved by Mechanismo I think it turned out well, perhaps it also depends on the type of cotton and wsl waxed by Mechanismo on its own, and also by the type of wax, I used a pro wax but not the very top brands, Mechanismo used Barbour wax which is one of the best and more expensive, Otter I saw is very expensive but dunno how it works, never seen one worked with that, I guess should be good...), I then laminated it with a plasticizer and although it looked nice, it had major practicality problems (too artificial and distorted, to put it simply, I use cleopatre textiplast, some others here used odicoat, but for me itìs out of the question if you wanna get good results, I learnt it the hard way, laminate is made native to be good, by the manufacturer's machine who apply plastic layer on the fabric before any tailoring trasnformation).
My advice: if you feel like waiting and don't want to try your hand at making changes, buy SR (I personally don't like their way of interfacing with the customer, I don't think you'll be able to make any kind of particular request to them), keep it that way, then if one day you have money to waste and a tailor to help you, you have it heavily modified (but on the design compared to a bep/els which is already very SA, I don't know what you can solve, certainly a lot but a lot of money and perhaps there will always be problems, furthermore you can't paint the fur there, to be SA it just has to be changed), or if you're fine with a bep/els already made size discounted on a return, at least you'll have to fix that fur and it won't be anyway easy because the color is really very distant, too yellow, I strongly advise against shoe polish because usually it may contain harmful components, if you don't want to spend a lot of money for what is needed for bep's tutorial, you can try with alcohol-based permanent markers and a cloth soaked in alcohol afterwards having painted stripes on the fur in order to blend them and make them uniform across the entire fur, certainly cheaper, but it would be better to change that fur in turn, however you could thus achieve a momentarily satisfactory result, I wouldn't go out of my home wearing that yellow, for the rest it can fit, but other problems of the bep, to date they are weak lining, and some other small things, even if on the design I find it unbeatable: it is the only one of the two real laminates I've seen on the market today that has a design and design details already top SA.
But as we have written to others, about ready to use, if you don't care too much about the SA aspect and don't want to modify, for me it's WSL (to date I can't say whether waxed or not, after what I've seen here recently) or SR, and the fur but you would keep what they give you in that case, because you need a tailor to change it.
Regarding the material, I consider the SR color to be the absolute top but the weave is twill, the bep/els duck weave to be the absolute best but it is not laminated (also wsl, which, however, appears to have non-SA details and is difficult for the customer to deal with them during the customization phase, from the feedback received here), the bep/els that I have (laminated twill) is slub so perhaps it can be considered almost a middle way, too bad Jameel couldn't restock it in laminated duck, he just restocked it slub twill.
As for cheap replicas, it's up to you to decide, but I would avoid leather for this: in addition to the fact that it's not SA at all, whatever leather they offer, a knee-length coat would be too heavy and impractical, imho.
Here, another couple pics of my work-in-progress color fine tuning, now is very much more clear aqua, I fear I need to wait couple weeks for the grey I want to give the final touch, and some other weeks for the new shearling.
