Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[CountLau]

here, I took some pics in a hurry (usual ******* smartphone, without expecting color details etc)
However, you can notice that outside of the close-ups where I show the additional internal strap with mini hook, you absolutely do not notice the presence of the micro-eyelet that I placed on the right lapel edge.
But it is a truly functional element, and not at all necessary at all costs to be used every time you close the coat: of course here, where I quickly put on the thickest winter crew-neck sweater I would wear for the occasion, there is the clearest example of how it is useful, in the last pic my idiotic plastic pose with deliberately widened arm (but if it had been a video, I could easily have lifted a dumbbell or punched the heavy bag etc)while wearing the closed coat, it highlights how comparable the functionality of the closure is now to a normal, more practical jacket.

Certainly, from this whole adventure that began with a bad second covid at the end of summer 2022 (this recent one was the third, even if I'm a happy antisocial and always mind my own business in person, oh well), I've had the opportunity to go well beyond what could ever be my skills in the field of tailoring and similar, but today I received compliments from my seamstress friend (who also recently emerged from covid, a historian from Turin, who despite recognizing my limits in not being " one of the profession", she had to admit that on many aspects of this trip, not even she could have done better and nor does she know anyone here who would have done it.

So I absolutely have to feel satisfied, I'm quite happy even if I have to admit I'm tired from constantly brooding about this stuff and I think we've finally reached the end of the line.

I certainly took the opportunity to learn a lot new, but putting in a lot of my own effort and having (somewhat inevitably in many periods) had time to waste (needless to say how much...)

 

[CountLau]

did now a vid where the closure issue is explained (drone).
Coat closed, you abruptly straight you arms sideways = coat inevitably opens at the sternum (and it was like that also without the increased padding, and I bet the same for any other coat from noticeable vendors also which are snug-fitted for real, that except for hook n eye and buckle, features only magnets to close the center without anything else as push buttons or whatever). You use my new internal hidden hook method = it doesn't.
Done wearing the thickest winter sweater I have (with thinner ones, using my internal hook is not needed except if you have a need for very dynamic body freedom of movement without ever losing an inch of the closure).

However, it wouldn't be much of a problem since, also thanks to the additional magnets that I put in, I can always be sure that when you close the arms back, the coat will still return closed in position, but with this additional feature, I feel like I have better chances for protection and compactness required on any eventuality.

 

[CountLau]

here some more pics (sorry,same phone)
the one with my car was taken months ago, before the last tweaks: the greyish/greenish/bluyish new shades are visible on the others.

for those who may get involved in a similar job and who intend to resemble the coat in the film as much as possible, I hope you'll be able to obtain a slightly lighter shade, in the end as said I can't lighten mine more (you can see here with external natural light also is still pretty a dark tone even if when light is direct it brights enough with the new shades) making it even more SA.

I really don't think it's possible to do more than this on this fabric, perhaps the other laminate that Zlurpo/Jameel have, I say "laminate" because it was written to me on etsy before I bought this one, that it is their so-called waxed one, in reality they aren't sure if it is a real waxed or kinda laminate, it could have, in addition to being in duck canvas (I was even choosing it before changing my mind the day after I payed, but it's probably more of a solid fabric than twill and better withstanding any processing with colors etc), a base color that is easier to work with as it is less dark, I finally didn't choose it because they said here a bit too stiff and I did'nt see any shine (which in many scenes in the movie is obvious instead), I don't know whether to recommend purchasing that, of course if I had one I would try it with my dyes to see if it is possible to achieve a shiner and more of a SA effect on that too, but I wouldn't buy another as I don't live collecting barely identical coats, u know

... so in case of brave people who decide to try it themselves, I wish you all the best and await any feedback from you with pics here

 

[CountLau]

and finally clear sunlight arrives today, here are the latest, so you will have the complete picture of what shades Jameel's twill laminate has (after any additional colors that I put in, and low-level camera permitting).
Here the work I had done on the padding will seem less evident, but I was out with the bike and I put on a thin, close-fitting technical fleece, confirming that you can never expect to have the same effect if you change the thickness of the shirt underneath. That closure, together with effectiveness of use and resistance to external temperatures even in dynamic activities like this, are confirmed as truly excellent after my latest changes.

Since various people ask me for information on how to get my coat, I call Jameel Ur, now I'll pass you the ball and based on any developments, we'll see.
It would be nice to know:
- whether that laminated twill has been restocked or not: it seems on ELS, but since it was finished, confirmation is awaited
- if there are plans to have a laminate like this in duck canvas and perhaps in a color like that one of your current ducks, which certainly, if with a bit of the typical shine of the laminate which I don't see for now, would be more SA or in any case easier for those like me who can get their hands on it, it'd be easier to tweak than a dark one like the twill I got
- if you have the possibility of changing that lining into a sturdier and more quilted one, because in fact it would be needed, and if you can put the buckram in a possible future order by someone, as I understand that Mechanismo one didn't have it in the end, it should also be placed on the lapels
- if you could possibly tweak the model slightly, because if I really have to see the nitpick, there would be needed a slightly longer length of the upper edge of the collar for a full funnel shape not to touch the edge with the nose, and you could try to make sure that when you close the coat, the upper corner of the left collar that takes the magnet on the right chest is higher, almost on the line of the shoulder panel, so as to make it perfectly SA
- if you could give any details about your waxed duck also, do you confirm what was written to me on etsy? is the waxed material not a real waxed but laminated? (any other visual feedback more here from those who have it, would be nice also)

I repeat, I don't think I'll buy another one, but if all these things are confirmed for sure, in addition to strongly advise anyone interested in purchasing to proceed as it would be the best in all aspects, I could also sell mine to someone here in the same size as me, and get another, but with as little work as possible for me. I'm categorically excluded from doing something like this again for others as I'm not interested in being paid for it and I have other things to do, as it's not my job, so I have to reiterate it, only if all the conditions can be absolutely confirmed, but in any case any info will be appreciated.

Have a nice day everyone

PS (*update):
3 pics has been taken with drone indoor this evening, cause maybe I deflated a bit too much the quilting yesterday, so now I put back some more artificial wool on the sleeves and I caught the chance to pad a bit more the lapels too, others taken day after with even more brighter light show a more lightened hue;
I think now is very SA but without the closure to become ineffective, it close perfectly, shoulder panel isn't too swollen any more and the excessive warm inside has been modulated. Did my very best and now I will stop, recommending someone who want to get involved into similar job to pay attention also at Gosling pic below when at the bar with Ford, ok Jameel should put a better lining but be careful not to exceed with padding, or as you can see here, the coat has room for drape at bicep level also, and if you put too much quilting under, it will disappear, you arms will be shrunk, and absolutely avoid any exceeding under the armpit, or it will deshape and probably won't be your size any more.

 

[CountLau]

ok, today a very simple mini shooting with drone outside now is also done
...everyone who comments my coat is noticing the bluyish hue and the ones who saw it before my color tweaks, still saying that is also much of a lighter tone, especially with bright light, but it seems I can't show that in these pics, even if drone camera should be definitely better than my smartphone (I put also some others taken with smartphone, just to compare, and even if that camera should be low-level and tweaks the colors by software, there it seems much more similar to SR cloth, that is the impression that it gives me in person indeed, even if I saw SR only in pics).

However, this could be useful to show what level of shine it still has despite I reduced it, and what consistency it can achieve with the necessary padding, I reiterate that I am satisfied.

That's all, see you guys

 

[Cameron1138]

Thanks for all these pics with bright outdoor lighting, it's giving me more hope that I'll be able to find a close enough fabric to make my own. I've seen a fair number of fabrics similar to this and I'd worried they were too blue, but perhaps not.

 

[CountLau]

Thanks for all these pics with bright outdoor lighting, it's giving me more hope that I'll be able to find a close enough fabric to make my own. I've seen a fair number of fabrics similar to this and I'd worried they were too blue, but perhaps not.

Honestly, as I meant in my previous post, even if my coat doesn't seem any blue it first sight (for example now, with modulated light at home, evening) looking that quite shiny dark greenish grey, it is way more bluyish when outside (and a bit less shiny, exactly what I was looking for, even if I would liked it even more if the final result was more of a lighter greyish than mine), than what it seems in drone snapshots, other pics tell kinda truth about that.

Good luck for your job, keep in mind that I put on various dyes, starting from original laminated dark grey, lite sanding, and then emerald green - petrol - grey - sky blue - petrol, in this order, every time carefully thermic gun color fixing (no more than 150° Celsius but almost all at 100°, assuming that the coating used for create the laminate would be polyurethane that should melt about at 180°, I kept well far from that limit).

If you want I could take a pic of the empty cans to know what products I'm talkin' bout but, if you're starting from other kinda fabric (differente properties / color / absorbency etc), I fear you obviously wouldn't get to same result.

 

[CountLau]

for the sake of completeness, it is right that I point out that this morning I replaced a couple of magnets (not Jameel's original ones which are quite strong, but a ferrite - too weak - and a neodymium which had broken, of the three that I had added to allow the use of thicker sweaters guaranteeing the functionality of the closure): I put two 19mmx4 neodymiums with a force of 10kg each, and believe me guys, pics with the drone that I posted today, having arrived in the fields just outside the city on a dirt road on my e-mtb, and I guarantee you don't even need the hook I created anymore, it holds perfectly (now I'll leave the hook as it won't be noticeable at all, just in case you need a test worthy of trees-breaking winds if it will ever occur).

Not compromising SA, I decided to add zips to all three external pockets, today I was about to lose my k gloves and my phone, and I was getting nervous, as in pics below, they are invisible, I inserted them well inside the external elements of the pockets, and now I really feel as if I were using a normal jacket with all the comforts... for me style is as important as practicality, the pockets as they were, I had to find them risky if you want to be completely pragmatic and wear the coat almost every time as now I'm finally doing.

 

[stopmo]

It's very nice but the fur lining looks like cannabis.

 

[CountLau]

It's very nice but the fur lining looks like cannabis.

Oh well, I'll go slowly at wearing it, so...
Maybe next time a pusher change would be needed?

 

[Mechanismo]

Hi guys!
I was in Copenhagen last weekend and their old meatpacking district has a very BR feel to it. Needless to say, I wore my K Coat and took advantage to take a few snapshots. Short video clip coming soon!

 

[CountLau]

Hi guys!
I was in Copenhagen last weekend and their old meatpacking district has a very BR feel to it. Needless to say, I wore my K Coat and took advantage to take a few snapshots. Short video clip coming soon!

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whoever took the pics certainly has a better phone (or photo-equipment) than mine...

here you can clearly see how the size of the closed neck is perfect, on yours.
In the end mine does its job and does not over-tighten, and also yours makes folds in the collar, but as I highlighted at the end and sometimes barely visible in my posts, it would have been better if the length of the upper edge was greater (and now I've also put buckram + neoprene half-moon inside of it), and this would probably also have brought about a re-proportion of the right lapel on the chest, and overall it could have thought of having a closure more similar to that of that notorious close-up.

...by now it has been made clear that it is not easy to harmonize everything and have every detail in place, we will see if there will be an answer to what I asked.

 

[CountLau]

for me THIS version (pic below, second from left on headless black dummy), which Jameel is selling on ELS as"waxed", would be the most SA (on etsy, it does not appear as an option, I assume it is only if you are aware, but if the source is the same, who they manage that channel of theirs, it would be appropriate to highlight it in the description, if not better to put it by creating a specific drop-down menu), and it is also the one that I initially purchased, only to change my mind shortly after and communicate my turn towards the dark twill laminate the day after.
Why? because although it is duck and a base color that in my opinion is perfectly SA (maybe just a bit more bluyish), I made two more careful comparisons with the film, and I deduced that, having no iridescence neither shine at all,and tending to remain lighter bluyish than the movie one, as well as doubts about which covering really is (I asked some questions few posts ago, but at the moment I have not read the answers, here,except to realize that Jameel has currently completely eliminated the dark laminate from the possible choices on ELS, which to me means that he has not been able to restock it), in the end laminate was a better choice overall, and from what Mechanismo wrote before buying it too after having already a wsl which he waxed himself, I assume that it was exactly what he was looking for too, even if pics he's just put here in Copenaghen seem to show a great result with selfmade waxing also, but handling and the closest effect to the movie one, I think that it would belongs to real laminate (not so sure without see all coats in person, to which one).

However, there is a difference between waxed and laminated, a topic already well debated here.
Whoever answered to me on etsy before I purchased tried to tell me that uncoated was the most faithful choice to the film, but for me this was unacceptable: if there are official articles that say that R.April said laminate, also admitting they bought cheap fur for shearling, why wouldn't be the truth? if it was as I was told, they should have given me proof of why they contradict that evidence, so did they go to the museum and touch it? did they have direct contact with production? dunno if I was told because maybe they wanted to sell me this uncoated duck, but at that point I based myself on the official descriptions, as well as on my intuition and on how much I might like it regardless.

So at the moment it seems to end up in the freezer.

We are awaiting feedback from those who can, and on a laminate at least the color of mine and Mechanismo'one (but possibly a less dark grey) and rigorously in duck canvas texture this time, in order to hope for greater basic strength of the fabric (lining upgrade is needed anyway as well as other details pointed out) and overall greater SA.

At the moment, nothing has yet suggested that I have made a choice that could have been different and better, nor has it convinced me to consider selling my coat and then possibly buying another one with more SA cloth, because I don't see this clear chance to improve, neither anything better of what, after my hard work to tweak it, I have managed to obtain and already have.

To this very last comparison, to me, it seems that the movie one stays in between mine and the so called waxed that Jameel sells, depending on the scenes we choose, but in the end, even if twill and not duck, today I still see my choice as the best possible (to have it laminated for real).

 

[Joe69]

Hello everyone

Here I received my WSL coat.
Overall I am very satisfied. It suits me well and looks very good quality, with good finishes. It seems to be quite warm too.

However there are several things that bother me, notably of course the famous collar to be moved. But also, I would like to move the hook and the 2 magnets because I find that the coat does not hold me tight enough when it is closed...

Then this famous fur in ultra long dog hair lol.
Someone has a technique to shorten the hairs which are "electric" and which don't look very nice... And without damaging the coat too much. Maybe with the lawn mower?

I took the wax option for €50. How do I know if it was really done?
I have the impression not because the fabric seems very dry.

I'll post some photos for you

 

[Mechanismo]

whoever took the pics certainly has a better phone (or photo-equipment) than mine...

here you can clearly see how the size of the closed neck is perfect, on yours.
In the end mine does its job and does not over-tighten, and also yours makes folds in the collar, but as I highlighted at the end and sometimes barely visible in my posts, it would have been better if the length of the upper edge was greater (and now I've also put buckram + neoprene half-moon inside of it), and this would probably also have brought about a re-proportion of the right lapel on the chest, and in the complex one could have thought of having a closure more similar to that of that infamous close-up

...by now it has been made clear that it is not easy to harmonize everything and have every detail in place, we will see if there will be an answer to what I asked.

Thanks CountLau !
To me, the essential feature to get right for this kind of look is cracking the collar pattern and size. As you can see in the profile pic, it's big and slightly funneled, hence not tight around the nose and cheekbones. Also, the buckram for added stiffness. Needless to say, all of this also pretty essential in how the collar rests around the shoulders when worn down.

 

[CountLau]

Hello everyone

Here I received my WSL coat.
Overall I am very satisfied. It suits me well and looks very good quality, with good finishes. It seems to be quite warm too.

However there are several things that bother me, notably of course the famous collar to be moved. But also, I would like to move the hook and the 2 magnets because I find that the coat does not hold me tight enough when it is closed...

Then this famous fur in ultra long dog hair lol.
Someone has a technique to shorten the hairs which are "electric" and which don't look very nice... And without damaging the coat too much. Maybe with the lawn mower?

I took the wax option for €50. How do I know if it was really done?
I have the impression not because the fabric seems very dry.

I'll post some photos for you

it certainly gives the impression of a coat ready to be worn, as said I couldn't say the same as the bep/els which comes in bright yellow fur, which however, as already admitted by those who produce it, the fur must be worked on.

By order (imho):

- on quality, Mechanismo's comments were sufficient, and I would say that the cold resistance, with a test like Copenhagen in this period, must be really not bad

- if you want the details of a garment bought online to really fit you perfectly, I'm afraid it's obvious that in the end you have to be willing and modify it when you have it in your hands, in the hands of a tailor (if you're not able to do it yourself) who takes the necessary measures and have things done with safe precision

- you said you wouldn't do post-purchase modifications, and if you're not changing your mind now, I think overall, your fur is nice anyway, obviously if you want to be closer to the movie one, that's not enough (trimming -I personally used scissors with my hands very little piece at a time,others used hairclippers- and weathering with the right chemicals and a bit of technique would be needed)

- in your shoes, I would have chosen wax option too, but as said it's always a surprise: it may come shiny, delicate, or opaque, sturdier, it depends on what they intend for waxing, maybe this is kinda laminate? in that case it could also be easier to wash, but to give it that shiny touch, I really don't know, and not having it or having to resort to ambiguous methods, had led me to buy a laminate with an already obvious shiny effect = if it the waxed effect, even if not shine at all, I honestly wouldn't touch it, I would avoid odicoat or plasticizers since my experience with that told me enough (and no, it doesn't sound that good).
Months ago I bought a waxed cotton thread to use it for another job, it was very tough, but no shine at all, so maybe it is, I wouldn't be too afraid that they didn't make it waxed, but without having it in front of me I wouldn't be able to confirm this, and not even be sure that adding Barbour wax on a already kinda coated fabric, could lead to Mechanismo,s result

 

[Mechanismo]

Hello everyone

Here I received my WSL coat.
Overall I am very satisfied. It suits me well and looks very good quality, with good finishes. It seems to be quite warm too.

However there are several things that bother me, notably of course the famous collar to be moved. But also, I would like to move the hook and the 2 magnets because I find that the coat does not hold me tight enough when it is closed...

Then this famous fur in ultra long dog hair lol.
Someone has a technique to shorten the hairs which are "electric" and which don't look very nice... And without damaging the coat too much. Maybe with the lawn mower?

I took the wax option for €50. How do I know if it was really done?
I have the impression not because the fabric seems very dry.

I'll post some photos for you

Hey man, congrats, the coat looks pretty solid.

Alas, WSL persists with their incorrect collar design/pattern and the way they attach it to the coat. I'm assuming you did not send them the PDF guide that I provided you, right? So, leaving aside the collar design/patterns, this is always their issue and I see it on your coat...

Not much can be done about the collar design itself but you can get the collar removed and reattached like the move coat (left) with the collar being one inch past the shoulder panel line.

If you show this to a local tailor, he'll be able to make short work of this and it'll go a long way to making the collar more SA.

In terms of the shearling... oh boy... Well, I'd have it swapped out for something like the pictured coat above or, at the very least, take some clippers to it.

Lastly waxing: yes, whatever they did, it looks subtle. I suggest buying some Barbour wax and going to town on it. The difference is night and day.

Anyway, congrats, you have a good foundation to -if desired- get the coat to the next level...

 

[Joe69]

Hé mec, félicitations, le manteau a l'air plutôt solide.

Hélas, WSL persiste avec sa conception/motif de col incorrect et la façon dont ils l'attachent au manteau. Je suppose que vous ne leur avez pas envoyé le guide PDF que je vous ai fourni, n'est-ce pas ? Donc, en laissant de côté le design/les motifs du col, c'est toujours leur problème et je le vois sur votre manteau...

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On ne peut pas faire grand-chose concernant la conception du col lui-même, mais vous pouvez retirer le col et le remettre en place comme le manteau de déplacement (à gauche), le col étant à un pouce au-delà de la ligne du panneau d'épaule.

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Si vous le montrez à un tailleur local, il sera en mesure de faire un travail rapide et cela contribuera grandement à rendre le collier plus SA.

En ce qui concerne la peau de mouton... oh mon Dieu... Eh bien, je l'échangerais contre quelque chose comme le manteau illustré ci-dessus ou, à tout le moins, j'y apporterais des tondeuses.

Enfin l'épilation à la cire : oui, quoi qu'ils fassent, ça a l'air subtil. Je suggère d'acheter de la cire Barbour et d'aller en ville avec. La différence est la nuit et le jour.

Quoi qu'il en soit, félicitations, vous avez de bonnes bases pour -si vous le souhaitez- faire passer le manteau au niveau supérieur...

Hey man, congrats, the coat looks pretty solid.

Alas, WSL persists with their incorrect collar design/pattern and the way they attach it to the coat. I'm assuming you did not send them the PDF guide that I provided you, right? So, leaving aside the collar design/patterns, this is always their issue and I see it on your coat...

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Not much can be done about the collar design itself but you can get the collar removed and reattached like the move coat (left) with the collar being one inch past the shoulder panel line.

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If you show this to a local tailor, he'll be able to make short work of this and it'll go a long way to making the collar more SA.

In terms of the shearling... oh boy... Well, I'd have it swapped out for something like the pictured coat above or, at the very least, take some clippers to it.

Lastly waxing: yes, whatever they did, it looks subtle. I suggest buying some Barbour wax and going to town on it. The difference is night and day.

Anyway, congrats, you have a good foundation to -if desired- get the coat to the next level...

Thank you gentlemen .

And yet yes, I sent them your PDF but obviously they don't care.
They already had 3 types of fur that they use for the collar, luckily I asked them the question, otherwise they wouldn't have told me and I don't know what fur they would have put on me in the end.. ..
I have the impression that if you don't ask them questions, they won't contact you....

Yes I plan to find a tailor in my city and to shift the collar by about 5cm, I think.

I would like to shorten the hair on my fur, I think you've done it, haven't you?

What do you think of the material? Does she deserve treatment?

thank you

 

[Mechanismo]

Thank you gentlemen .

And yet yes, I sent them your PDF but obviously they don't care.
They already had 3 types of fur that they use for the collar, luckily I asked them the question, otherwise they wouldn't have told me and I don't know what fur they would have put on me in the end.. ..
I have the impression that if you don't ask them questions, they won't contact you....

Yes I plan to find a tailor in my city and to shift the collar by about 5cm, I think.

I would like to shorten the hair on my fur, I think you've done it, haven't you?

What do you think of the material? Does she deserve treatment?

thank you

As I mentioned way back in the day, communication with WSL was infuriatingly frustrating. In hindsight it's always best to ask them to send you photos of the coat before shipment, but in any case, there's a lot you can still improve post-sale.

The material looks solid, just like mine when it first arrived. But I've put two coatings worth of Barbour wax. This darkens the coat, gives it a leather-like texture, drape and adds weight. So, to me, it's a must.

Yes, I took some clippers to the original collar back in the day and it did shorten the fur before I decided to order a separate, SA pattern collar and replaced it. These guys, WSL, sometimes use faux fur and other time faux shearling, which is more correct...

 

[CountLau]

Thank you gentlemen .

And yet yes, I sent them your PDF but obviously they don't care.
They already had 3 types of fur that they use for the collar, luckily I asked them the question, otherwise they wouldn't have told me and I don't know what fur they would have put on me in the end.. ..
I have the impression that if you don't ask them questions, they won't contact you....

Yes I plan to find a tailor in my city and to shift the collar by about 5cm, I think.

I would like to shorten the hair on my fur, I think you've done it, haven't you?

What do you think of the material? Does she deserve treatment?

thank you

if you plan not only to trim but also to distress that fur they put on yours, maybe you better consider a full fur change as an option, I guess Mechanismo has bought a more fitted fur base type also on Amazon, it would require distressing too imo, but if you're starting to mind about tweaks to be more SA, I would not put efforts on that original fur