Tombstone Val Kilmer / Doc Holliday Costume

What do we think about this fabric I found on Taobao for Doc's silver and red brocade vest? It's obviously not a perfect match but it's by far the closest I've been able to find. The base color is tricky to match because it looks like it's got bluish or purplish undertones depending on the lighting, but I think this is pretty close. The green vine pattern is the biggest issue but at least it's not too prominent.
 

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What do we think about this fabric I found on Taobao for Doc's silver and red brocade vest? It's obviously not a perfect match but it's by far the closest I've been able to find. The base color is tricky to match because it looks like it's got bluish or purplish undertones depending on the lighting, but I think this is pretty close. The green vine pattern is the biggest issue but at least it's not too prominent.
I have been looking at this same fabric for some time now.............................. :lol: Here is the original vest :cool:
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I'm working on a different Tombstone character, Marshal Fred White. (I only cosplay old guys with grey beards.)

I just can't find any stills showing his belt or buckle from the front. From the back we can see it's plain black leather, as is his holster.

His badge is a small ornate style which I've not found reproductions of. There'a a Denix one that's close, but too big. The photo is of a vintage Sterling Silver badge which seems to be what he's wearing.

I'm going to paint up a 3D printed Colt SAA and try to get the effect of ivory grips, case-hardened frame, and blued cylinder and barrel, which I've never tried doing before.

His derby/bowler changes colour in every shot but seems to be the colour Stetson calls Caribou. (It's the colour of Chief Jim Hopper's hat which also looks different in every shot.)

In general a quite easy costume to do, especially as he wears the same costume throughout.
 

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I'm working on a different Tombstone character, Marshal Fred White. (I only cosplay old guys with grey beards.)

I just can't find any stills showing his belt or buckle from the front. From the back we can see it's plain black leather, as is his holster.

His badge is a small ornate style which I've not found reproductions of. There'a a Denix one that's close, but too big. The photo is of a vintage Sterling Silver badge which seems to be what he's wearing.

I'm going to paint up a 3D printed Colt SAA and try to get the effect of ivory grips, case-hardened frame, and blued cylinder and barrel, which I've never tried doing before.

His derby/bowler changes colour in every shot but seems to be the colour Stetson calls Caribou. (It's the colour of Chief Jim Hopper's hat which also looks different in every shot.)

In general a quite easy costume to do, especially as he wears the same costume throughout.
Fred's Gun & Rig...plain brass buckle
 

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I have been looking at this same fabric for some time now.............................. :lol: Here is the original vest :cool:View attachment 1877499
Oh cool, I didn't realize there were pictures of this vest available too. Looks like it does indeed have blue flowers as well as red, I thought it might from the screenshots from the movie but couldn't tell for sure. And it looks like the trousers might have a sort of shadow effect going on with a two-toned grey stripe between the black ones rather than just a basic black-and-grey stripe.

Just wondering, any timeline on when you expect to have the other vest fabrics in production? I'll keep looking and see if I can find something closer for this one that includes the blue flowers as well as red. If only I was good at graphic design, I could try to recreate the pattern and get it printed on Spoonflower satin, but that's unfortunately not my forte at all.
 
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I'm working on a different Tombstone character, Marshal Fred White. (I only cosplay old guys with grey beards.)

I just can't find any stills showing his belt or buckle from the front. From the back we can see it's plain black leather, as is his holster.

His badge is a small ornate style which I've not found reproductions of. There'a a Denix one that's close, but too big. The photo is of a vintage Sterling Silver badge which seems to be what he's wearing.

I'm going to paint up a 3D printed Colt SAA and try to get the effect of ivory grips, case-hardened frame, and blued cylinder and barrel, which I've never tried doing before.

His derby/bowler changes colour in every shot but seems to be the colour Stetson calls Caribou. (It's the colour of Chief Jim Hopper's hat which also looks different in every shot.)

In general a quite easy costume to do, especially as he wears the same costume throughout.
Another obvious win for Dr Jones Sr . This will look great in your build history. Can you pop a link here to your new thread? I don't want to blow up Doc's thread but want to add a follow on yours with my responses.

Update: Thread 'Tombstone Marshal Fred White' Tombstone Marshal Fred White
 
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Bottom Middle Badge Fred
I don't think so, if you check in this shot you can see it's the ornate kind with eagle at the top and the sort of scroll border etc.

So far the badge here top right is the closest vintage one I've seen, the eagle with his head down, the scrolls on each side.

But the rest of the border resembles the badge bottom left.
 

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Thanks so much!!

I didn't know his holster had tooling.
Yeah,hard to see...according to tombstone guns and gear that's town marshal badge but props change a lot scene to scene ! My pal Pete did all the gear for the movie so I'll ask him if he's still got the badge actual...
 
As for the deputy badge in question for Doc....

I preface with two statements:

1) Only today did I get an image clear enough to see the differences I list below. My apologies for not having found this earlier but I did try.

2) Right up to finding this photo and until one is cast, JohnHolliday has made the closest duplication I have seen.

Here I draw my line in the sand. Screen accurate badges are not currently available, to my knowledge, including all that have been sold through the propstore as Originals from the movie. I won't budge on this unless photos can be provided matching the picture of Kurt I am posting here. All articles claim that all 10 deputy badges were the same mold. Either this is not an accurate fact or the badges being offered are not from the movie.

Given that numerous badges are proferred online as a match or even an original, the screencaps from the movie are my goto and my final answer, with a little waffling when someone offers poster pictures due to their inherent inaccuracy to the actual released film footage.

I finally got a higher resolution of Kurt's badge. It is the same as offered earlier but now with enough detail to solidly CONFIRM that:

1) there is no central star outline line printed in black within the cutout star shape but only the letters "U. S." with definite periods, NOT WITHOUT. The period for the S is falling off the edge but is present. If it is not falling off the edge it is NOT a match. The mold of the letters was obviously slightly shifted from the mold of the star or the smith's "U.S." Stamp was pre-assembled as that phrase. Meaning, they could miss slightly and hang the period but it is there.

2) There IS a circle printed near the exterior of the outer edge of the badge but is quite thin and disappears when the picture is blurry.

3) There are NO IMPRINTED STARS anywhere on this badge. None. Zero. Emphasis on "they are not there". Only one star pattern exists and it is the shape of the inside of the badge itself having the original circle cut through in five pie slices. I assume the aberation in the mid right side looked like a star in the blurrier pictures and matched the expected stars as seen on historic badges. They don't exist on this badge. (again kudos to johnholliday)

4) and now for the sad one, this is a SERIF FONT, meaning all the letters have the little wings and end cap bars at the extremes vs sans serif which are without the decorations. Times New Roman is an example of a serif font whereas Arial is sans serif but I will need to research further to get you an exact font if one exists. It could very well be custom and not a true font. 7 years as a professional typesetter and few fonts have eluded me since. Again, sorry I did not have a good enough photo to catch this earlier but it isn't even a light serif, it is heavy.



Further notes and my white flag of truce:

1) Assumption made: Kurt's badge is the same deputy badge as Val's

2) All previously found sources claim all deputy and circular badges on the movie were from the same mold.

3) Several posters were made with a mish mash of guns, holsters, coats, hats and badges that were not used by those actors in any scene but were instead worn by others or not worn, so the posters are not wonderful as a final answer.

4) This badge, though blurrier in previous pics, seems to be consistent for Val and Kurt.

As case in point, the image, as seen posted here, loses some important detail when viewed without zooming. Please open the picture and zoom in.

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I don't think so, if you check in this shot you can see it's the ornate kind with eagle at the top and the sort of scroll border etc.

So far the badge here top right is the closest vintage one I've seen, the eagle with his head down, the scrolls on each side.

But the rest of the border resembles the badge bottom left.
 
I did find a royalty-free vector file here that I think could work printed on satin for the grey/silver vest with a bit of tweaking to the colors to make the background slightly darker and purpler and the flowers a little more vivid:
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As for the deputy badge in question for Doc....

I preface with two statements:

1) Only today did I get an image clear enough to see the differences I list below. My apologies for not having found this earlier but I did try.

2) Right up to finding this photo and until one is cast, JohnHolliday has made the closest duplication I have seen.

Here I draw my line in the sand. Screen accurate badges are not currently available, to my knowledge, including all that have been sold through the propstore as Originals from the movie. I won't budge on this unless photos can be provided matching the picture of Kurt I am posting here. All articles claim that all 10 deputy badges were the same mold. Either this is not an accurate fact or the badges being offered are not from the movie.

Given that numerous badges are proferred online as a match or even an original, the screencaps from the movie are my goto and my final answer, with a little waffling when someone offers poster pictures due to their inherent inaccuracy to the actual released film footage.

I finally got a higher resolution of Kurt's badge. It is the same as offered earlier but now with enough detail to solidly CONFIRM that:

1) there is no central star outline line printed in black within the cutout star shape but only the letters "U. S." with definite periods, NOT WITHOUT. The period for the S is falling off the edge but is present. If it is not falling off the edge it is NOT a match. The mold of the letters was obviously slightly shifted from the mold of the star or the smith's "U.S." Stamp was pre-assembled as that phrase. Meaning, they could miss slightly and hang the period but it is there.

2) There IS a circle printed near the exterior of the outer edge of the badge but is quite thin and disappears when the picture is blurry.

3) There are NO IMPRINTED STARS anywhere on this badge. None. Zero. Emphasis on "they are not there". Only one star pattern exists and it is the shape of the inside of the badge itself having the original circle cut through in five pie slices. I assume the aberation in the mid right side looked like a star in the blurrier pictures and matched the expected stars as seen on historic badges. They don't exist on this badge. (again kudos to johnholliday)

4) and now for the sad one, this is a SERIF FONT, meaning all the letters have the little wings and end cap bars at the extremes vs sans serif which are without the decorations. Times New Roman is an example of a serif font whereas Arial is sans serif but I will need to research further to get you an exact font if one exists. It could very well be custom and not a true font. 7 years as a professional typesetter and few fonts have eluded me since. Again, sorry I did not have a good enough photo to catch this earlier but it isn't even a light serif, it is heavy.



Further notes and my white flag of truce:

1) Assumption made: Kurt's badge is the same deputy badge as Val's

2) All previously found sources claim all deputy and circular badges on the movie were from the same mold.

3) Several posters were made with a mish mash of guns, holsters, coats, hats and badges that were not used by those actors in any scene but were instead worn by others or not worn, so the posters are not wonderful as a final answer.

4) This badge, though blurrier in previous pics, seems to be consistent for Val and Kurt.

As case in point, the image, as seen posted here, loses some important detail when viewed without zooming. Please open the picture and zoom in.

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Thanks for that thorough research greenmachines...I love it:cool::cool::love::love:
 
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