Lets talk all things Star Wars

[HeartBlade]

Yeah, I found Rise of Skywalker to be incredibly disappointing for those reasons (along with maaaaany other reasons). The way Finn is written in RoS, and the way Rose is written out of RoS...ugh. I get that the Rose situation may at least have been due in part to her being more involved with Leia, and those scenes ending up cut in the wake of Carrie Fisher's death, but still, sidelining her at all was a mistake. I like Rose as a character. I loved Finn as a character. The notion of a brainwashed ex-Stormtrooper who managed to buck his conditioning is awesome fodder for great stories...which never ended up being told. Instead, RoS wound up a mishmash of spectacle and unearned feel-good moments. I keep coming back to the first words I said to my wife when I exited the theater after seeing it: "That was great! I hated it!" JJ knows how to make you feel the feels, but it's all sleight of hand and audience manipulation; the story never earns it.

In contrast to the "racist" OT where Lando becomes part of the Han Solo rescue squad and is also personally responsible for destroying Death Star 2 electric boogaloo. OT 2, ST 0.

Personally, I'm looing forward to seeing more about Rey's adventures in the future, the future of the Jedi, and doing all of that WITHOUT the baggage that JJ brings. I hope they can do her character justice and really flesh her out more instead of just lazily recycling more tropes.

While I believe Rey's character has potential if written well, Disney has proven time and time again that they cant write a good story to save their company. Just look at their other films like Wish. And while everyone is heaping praise on Andor as the best thing released by Star Wars alongside Rogue One, Rogue One is honestly a happy accident given the sudden reshoots with scenes appearing in the trailer not appearing in the movie and Andor is only in season one. People also heaped praise on the Mandalorian for season one too.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Right after the home release dvd's came out, I saw the audition of the 3 last potential anakins, and when i saw Devon I was like: Why didn't he get the part?, He had that half bad half good eyes, he seemed more mature and focused. Whereas Lloyd was more of a typical 8 year old.

Don't get me wrong im ok with Jake, but I dont see how he could turn in to Hayden, does this make sense?

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I dont know, maybe im just imagining things but The same thought i had 20+years ago, I still have it today after watching that Docu.

Well….keep in mind that Hayden was actually the second choice to Leonard DiCaprio (who turned down Episode II)…

 

[Psab keel]

While I agree, I think this could have been built upon in the narrative.

The Empire is in shambles so they had to "stoop low enough" that they had to hire non-human soldiers to fill their ranks. I could argue that Phasma always kept her armor on and maybe had a voice modulator to hide her identity and still command the First Order. It would also explain why Finn is so clueless despite being a soldier (education was withheld) and why he had to do the "****" jobs like clean the bathrooms instead of just making it a throwaway joke.

Of course dont make it blatantly about race but maybe Finn is actually half human/half alien (come one, interspecies romance has to have happened in the Star Wars verse) and while Finn can "pass" as human, Phasma is far more distinct in her alien-features which is why she wears the armor all the time and also why she picks on Finn the most. You dont need to explicitly transport modern politics into a fictional universe but can convey the sentiment (discrimination based on uncontrollable features) symbolically.

Its honestly why I hate how Disney decided to just completely return to the status quo of the First Order being the overwhelming military force and the Resistance being the gang of underprepared underdogs. Its just basic state building for the people in charge to have overwhelming military power to control the region which has been the case throughout history (which Lucas draws inspiration from). New Star Wars only proved to me that democracy is impossible to implement in the Galaxy and the new Republic was completely undeserving of their positions in the new order given the fact that they got destroyed without a fight by a bunch of incompetents (also a good reason why you shouldnt make a mockery of your villains like Hux or Kylo Ren). If the elites from the Empire like Vader or Tarkin were still alive, the Empire would have reestablished the Empire and destroyed the resistance in one movie.

Anything could have been written and your idea would have made perfect sense. But we're also talking about JJ Abrams here. A director/ writer known for mimicking better filmmakers and not much else. I know there were others involved with the script, but given the mandates by Disney to essentially try to remake ANH, and JJ being "good" at that kind of thing, it makes sense that they picked him.

 

[guabe]

Well….keep in mind that Hayden was actually the second choice to Leonard DiCaprio (who turned down Episode II)…

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can you imagine that?

 

[ghostryder]

 

[Greenie]

Reading this thread is like De ja vu. I have to keep checking the page number.
And I still haven’t seen the receipts

 

[dascoyne]

I was thinking the corpulent Jedi concept might have worked if they put in a guy who was fundamentally fit, like a Sammo Hung - type. But this fella is clearly not that.

Did he miss this class?

 

[Ron]

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I was thinking the corpulent Jedi concept might have worked if they put in a guy who was fundamentally fit, like a Sammo Hung - type. But this fella is clearly not that.

Did he miss this class?

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"It's over, Anakin! I have the high blood pressure!"

 

[dascoyne]

"It's over, Anakin! I have the high blood pressure!"

But his Midi-calorie count is off the chart!

 

[Joek3rr]

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I was thinking the corpulent Jedi concept might have worked if they put in a guy who was fundamentally fit, like a Sammo Hung - type. But this fella is clearly not that.

Did he miss this class?

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"A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind."

I guess not anymore? Everyone and and anyone can be a Jedi!

'Look you don't have to aspire to be better! Or more healthy! Just continue to be live your harmful, selfish, unhealthy life style!'

Our heroes used to be people we looked up to. People we aspired to be like. But how out heros have fallen.

 

[Astyanax]

He is plenty fit, guys! Don't judge him just because he's a pregnant Corpulite!

racists

 

[dascoyne]

That one was unfortunately taken out by jediabetes.

 

[jts1031]

Come on, he's obviously an homage to this:

The above statement may contain sarcasm.

 

[dascoyne]

Come on, he's obviously an homage to this:
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The above statement may contain sarcasm.

I didn't want to reference the Star Wars Kid meme because, in real life, the kid got bullied and harassed to the point of clinical depression. He's OK today, but it's a sad story.






But an actor playing Obese Wan Kenobi in a $200 million dollar production is a different matter.

 

[guabe]

Could it be possible that he was a native to that planet and was discovered by the stationary Jedi (Wayseekers) very recently? he is keen with the force and they could have made an exception since they do not follow the Council ways

I know you will call it mental gymnastics.

 

[CopperRevan]

I was going to comment but despite the fact i'm "husky" i still came to my senses and realized this isn't the Kung -Fu Panda thread.

 

[CopperRevan]

That one was unfortunately taken out by jediabetes.

If you all would eat your damn Quaker Oatmeal you'd be fit as a fiddle just like me and would never have to worry about Jediabeetus...lol

 

[CopperRevan]

We all need to get a Noa gif that somehow mimics this one of Jeremiah Johnson

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I'm waiting for the "bUt yOdA sAiD sIzE mAtTeRs nOt!" people to defend that guy. That's how dumb the people writing this stuff are now. Even the most in shape fat guy is still going to tire out quickly and not be an effective Jedi.

Again I want to point out to all the people on here who said that ignoring the old EU because it was so "awful" would make Star Wars better of how wrong they were. There was a book called The Crystal Star that most fans recognize as THE worst EU novel, and it was better than most of the current SW and she didn't get it either!

 

[Astyanax]

There was a book called The Crystal Star that most fans recognize as THE worst EU novel, and it was better than most of the current SW and she didn't get it either!

"The Courtship of Princess Leia" was worse. I have spoken.