STAR WARS - Skeleton Crew props & costume
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I confirmed. Furthering the above, I ran with TJJohn12 suggestion on TRS-80 form factor on the chassis. His was the first hint in the thread that it was a clone or kitbash and then I saw yours. The TRS-80 Model 3 and Model 4 (the one I believe TJJohn12 is referring to) keyboard was itself a modular design with numerous options to fit into the same hole. They purpose built the options into a larger fill plate that looks a lot like it was vacuformed into the hole itself from an original flat sheet. Meaning, it can easily be removed and replaced, like you mentioned above. At first I thought taking it out would not leave a large enough flat area at the left (upper face of flat area without keyboard) but the picture shows that some of the black area is just decoration but still flat and not removed with the keyboard so the width is now a match or close. Now, with all that said, I think the lower keyboard section is modeled off the 200 and not the 3 or 4. Stick with me because this is where it all goes bash.
I believe that only the outer casing or hints of it are used as you pburgess pointed out. The top (in scene) section is loosely modeled after the outer hull and front bezel outline of a TRS-80 model 3 or 4, directly, no longer doubting this part as the outline is a dead match and is NOT a generalized or common form on other known computers (Update: full match found in next post down). It shows wide sections narrowing down to thin corners in the exact shape of the model 3 and 4. The interior of the screen section, including any cross bars, have been removed and smoothed as though they were never there. This upper section being seperated from the lower denotes it is NOT a full copy as the 3 and 4, that shared the above mentioned bezel, did not come in two parts. Yes, the model names are also given to seperated modules in the same year but do not have the same keyboard nor the same housing as the uniframe versions.
But the keyboard section matches only the model 200:
The 200 did not have the full under body under the monitor but other TRS80 models did.
It looks like it was cut apart, kit bashed, vacuformed and possibly scanned/manipulated and printed. Add in the keyboards you identified and then the flat black monitor face with a cutout for monitor or even a tablet computer.
All the different models we mentioned are there but only in a portion here and a radius there. Feels very 3d modelled and backfilled with real keyboards.
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pburgess
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Found it! Turns out it’s NOT a mishmash of systems or keyboards (aside from the pried-off-and-covered keycaps thing):
HP 64000 Logic Development System circa 1979:
Observe the function keys, specific mold lines between the display and keyboard sections, and weird not-a-numeric-keypad. They barely did a thing but cover up the floppies, PROM burner & screen! Boy do I feel silly now, over-thinking this.
Looks like they very occasionally pop up on eBay for a couple hundred.
HP 64000 Logic Development System circa 1979:
Observe the function keys, specific mold lines between the display and keyboard sections, and weird not-a-numeric-keypad. They barely did a thing but cover up the floppies, PROM burner & screen! Boy do I feel silly now, over-thinking this.
Looks like they very occasionally pop up on eBay for a couple hundred.
Wicked promising
nickytea
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Here's my updated walkie label based on the new reference. As before, scaled to print 1:1 at 600dpi.
And here's the link to the updated vector PDF print sheet with bleed options.
And here's the link to the updated vector PDF print sheet with bleed options.
That is a lock!!! Nice work! No center screen bars either....like they were never there...hahaha;Found it! Turns out it’s NOT a mishmash of systems or keyboards (aside from the pried-off-and-covered keycaps thing):
HP 64000 Logic Development System circa 1979:
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Observe the function keys, specific mold lines between the display and keyboard sections, and weird not-a-numeric-keypad. They barely did a thing but cover up the floppies, PROM burner & screen! Boy do I feel silly now, over-thinking this.
Looks like they very occasionally pop up on eBay for a couple hundred.
In the scene screen cap the monitor glares like a crt but I would think you could create that look with a tablet?? Fingers crossed.
Any guesses as to the possible screen being used?
At this point the use of a tablet would be far cheaper than getting a crt mounted inside what will be a hole after gutting the larger monitor.
Oh and negative on the overthinking it being a bad thing. That is likely what led to finding it.
UPDATE: The full system including server and diagnostic tools is the 64000 system. The chassis in question for our screen match is specifically the HP 64100A.
Match find congratulations goes to pburgess who needs to CONTINUE to overthink things if this is the outcome.
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TK41434
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pburgess
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Not a clue, not for certain, unless we see some making-of action on this segment.
Far most likely it’s added in post using motion tracking; there’d just be like a green paper rectangle where the screen goes. No worries about exposure and glare this way.
If tablet, it could be anything. Most sensible would be to use screen casting (e.g. AirPlay), so the action’s easily restarted for each take.
The mods all look trivially reversible. It’s entirely possible this (and the joystick thinger, and other stuff) was rented from Apex Surplus or other prop house and returned after the shoot. Like in theory one could go there and rub their hands all over it, ooooh, actual screen-used prop!
Wow, that is too true, they are reversable. The screen is just a cover and the inserted smaller screen has plenty of room to fit into the well of space in front of the original monitor. The bottom cover lifts out and keys go back on the removed locations. And it just becomes the HP it was. Can they truly go that low budget? That would be legit responsible behavior that I haven't seen in years.Not a clue, not for certain, unless we see some making-of action on this segment.
Far most likely it’s added in post using motion tracking; there’d just be like a green paper rectangle where the screen goes. No worries about exposure and glare this way.
If tablet, it could be anything. Most sensible would be to use screen casting (e.g. AirPlay), so the action’s easily restarted for each take.
The mods all look trivially reversible. It’s entirely possible this (and the joystick thinger, and other stuff) was rented from Apex Surplus or other prop house and returned after the shoot. Like in theory one could go there and rub their hands all over it, ooooh, actual screen-used prop!
Many thanks to your findings, I was able to make a 3d model of this blaster, here is my prototype build :
After designing all the parts in my CAD, this is what came out of my 3D printer
a bit of putty here and there and then, primer paint
Fully painted, but way to clean !
I'm currently weathering it, I'll post decent pictures soon. !
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pburgess
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Think it’s more a matter of not wanting to store so much junk. Important hero props might get preserved for posterity, or find their way to PropStore, but incidental background clutter is just means to an end.
That was incredibly fast. If you intend to do a run of these, please put me on the contact list when they are selling. I am putting together the full cosplay for rhe Jude character. And beware of "new" members asking for your print files. Those are just stl sites looking for stuff to promote on their page.
sparkmatter
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Oh yes I need this, I already made a functional peridia map puzzle so clearly I must complete the collection of star wars combination puzzles
the.rebel.agent
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I wish I knew for certain. I believe, given the past history, they wrote something in aurebesh all over the stickers, or created new ones to replace factory ones. We will need a better shot to figure out that.
Holy cow this brings back memories... I used one of those or maybe a similar model back in School. Used to program EProms for projects and such.Found it! Turns out it’s NOT a mishmash of systems or keyboards (aside from the pried-off-and-covered keycaps thing):
HP 64000 Logic Development System circa 1979:
View attachment 1889448
Observe the function keys, specific mold lines between the display and keyboard sections, and weird not-a-numeric-keypad. They barely did a thing but cover up the floppies, PROM burner & screen! Boy do I feel silly now, over-thinking this.
Looks like they very occasionally pop up on eBay for a couple hundred.
the.rebel.agent
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Wim backpack is a modified Kayond casual style canvas from around 2018. Modern model does not feature chocolate details on straps.
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woodywaverider
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Could this round thing in E4 be one of these Panasonic radios?
the.rebel.agent
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I have been fooling around that puzzle ball like thing, couldn't find anything yet. Love that radio, but It is missing some holes. or they did more holes to it.
pburgess
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I hope a slightly off-topic tangent from the tin soldier search is okay (no worries if mods delete). THIS IS NOT THE FIGURE YOU’RE LOOKING FOR. But this was endearing and made me tear up…
At some point my youth, when I’d outgrown my Star Wars action figures (original Kenner!) and was just adult enough to understand what he was passing along, my dad gave me a bunch of tin soldiers from his youth. I kept these in an acrylic display case for a few years, but eventually packed them away carefully when I moved out, they’ve sat in a box for decades but this thread made me dig them out. Out of about 3 dozen, there’s one lefty:
The left-handedness of the tin Jedi figures might’ve jumped out at me because Dad was a lefty (not by choice, but polio). And it really only just now occurred to me that he probably gave these to me rather than my older siblings (aged out of peak Star Wars demographic) as a way to say “these were my generation’s Star Wars figures.”
He was also a huge military history buff. Picture like the nerdiest of us here with Star Wars lore, but military history, every little detail of every uniform ever. Feeling a little sad because I know if he were still here I could just ask “Hey Pop, what’s with the lefties?” and he could Epic Rap Battle about it for three hours.
ANYWAY. Sometimes soldiers are just left-handed. It occurred to me there could also be certain ceremonial reasons for it (e.g. Honor Guard rifle positions). Like hey check out the King’s/Queen’s Guard:
Anyway, if you’re blessed with a History Nerd in your life, they might have a lead on those figures (long-e lead as in direction, not element 82), like some search terms to use. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
At some point my youth, when I’d outgrown my Star Wars action figures (original Kenner!) and was just adult enough to understand what he was passing along, my dad gave me a bunch of tin soldiers from his youth. I kept these in an acrylic display case for a few years, but eventually packed them away carefully when I moved out, they’ve sat in a box for decades but this thread made me dig them out. Out of about 3 dozen, there’s one lefty:
The left-handedness of the tin Jedi figures might’ve jumped out at me because Dad was a lefty (not by choice, but polio). And it really only just now occurred to me that he probably gave these to me rather than my older siblings (aged out of peak Star Wars demographic) as a way to say “these were my generation’s Star Wars figures.”
He was also a huge military history buff. Picture like the nerdiest of us here with Star Wars lore, but military history, every little detail of every uniform ever. Feeling a little sad because I know if he were still here I could just ask “Hey Pop, what’s with the lefties?” and he could Epic Rap Battle about it for three hours.
ANYWAY. Sometimes soldiers are just left-handed. It occurred to me there could also be certain ceremonial reasons for it (e.g. Honor Guard rifle positions). Like hey check out the King’s/Queen’s Guard:
Anyway, if you’re blessed with a History Nerd in your life, they might have a lead on those figures (long-e lead as in direction, not element 82), like some search terms to use. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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