Spider-Man: No Way Home

I hope these villains are the Sinister Six in a universe where Raimi’s Peter is dead at their hand. MCU Peter will eventually make the decision/be forced to step through a one way trip into that world because “This world doesn’t have any Avengers, but I can give them a Spider-Man”. This way Sony gets to play with their toy in these Venom/Morbius/Kraven movies, and MCU movies can play on Peter’s absence to bring Miles in as their Spidey.
This isn't a terrible idea, but I don't know that Miles isn't under Sony's purview also. I would LOVE to get a live action Miles Morales.
 
So Freak’n cool you worked on that movie!! One of my all time favorite super hero films is spidy2
Yeah, mine too. :)

So were you around back when Sluis Van Shipyards would have custom lightsaber contests?

I did this for his 6th annual contest in 2005. This particular contest had a theme - "design a saber as influenced by a movie, comic, or video game other than Star Wars."

So of course I did a custom Doc Ock saber:

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So listening to some youtubers, I thought they signed Holland up for 1 more marvel film after this one?

now after listening to them this week it sounds like this is his very last film with Disney, and he’s going back to Sony?
 
I gotta say, as fun as NWH looks, I really really really hate the trend in movies and TV of "Bring back old characters. It doesn't matter if it makes no sense." The Star Wars sequels did it, the MCU is really leaning into it now, Michael Keaton is back as Batman in the Flash movie, Star Trek brought back Nimoy and Picard, Ghostbusters is doing it, and there's a bunch more examples. They're shoveling nostalgia at us, and I'd much rather see new stories with these new casts. Don't eat the Member Berries.
 
Oh God.
It has Goblin in it.
It has Doc Oc in it.
Doc Oc is played by the original actor from the 90's.
What if Goblin, is played by...
... I dare not dream...
 
I gotta say, as fun as NWH looks, I really really really hate the trend in movies and TV of "Bring back old characters. It doesn't matter if it makes no sense." The Star Wars sequels did it, the MCU is really leaning into it now, Michael Keaton is back as Batman in the Flash movie, Star Trek brought back Nimoy and Picard, Ghostbusters is doing it, and there's a bunch more examples. They're shoveling nostalgia at us, and I'd much rather see new stories with these new casts. Don't eat the Member Berries.
How does it make no sense? They're from an alternate reality, which has been firmly established to be a thing in the MCU at this point.
 
In the MCU, the Multiverse was a BS story from Mysterio. But okay, I'll concede that it is canon. I just hate that the only way they could tell a new Spider-Man story was by bringing in other Spider-Men and villains from old movies. Into the Spiderverse could do it because cartoons can inherently do goofy stuff like that. I think if I was Tom Holland, I'd be a little insulted that Tobey and Andrew are going to steal my spotlight in my own movie. And the great villains from the other 2 Spider-Man MCU movies are replaced by one good villain, one in a goofy suit that audiences never really liked, and a lame one from a movie that lots of people didn't like. I really hope they can get Nicholas Hammond in this one somewhere.
 
In the MCU, the Multiverse was a BS story from Mysterio. But okay, I'll concede that it is canon. I just hate that the only way they could tell a new Spider-Man story was by bringing in other Spider-Men and villains from old movies. Into the Spiderverse could do it because cartoons can inherently do goofy stuff like that. I think if I was Tom Holland, I'd be a little insulted that Tobey and Andrew are going to steal my spotlight in my own movie. And the great villains from the other 2 Spider-Man MCU movies are replaced by one good villain, one in a goofy suit that audiences never really liked, and a lame one from a movie that lots of people didn't like. I really hope they can get Nicholas Hammond in this one somewhere.
Mysterio was full of crap, but the Disney+ shows are part of the MCU and they're canon. The multiverse is canon.
 
Seriously though; all of MCU is shifting back towards multi-verse and alternate time lines.

It's what comics as a whole do by their very nature. You have different runs of comics. you have different authors, different artists, alternate stories, the same story told in 4 different decades because the character has had a new series made about them in each of the decades since they've been made, and the character has been 16 ½ in each series for 40 years.

Spiderman is even one of the characters that has one of the most beloved and rich multi-verses that I can think of, where they all kind of intermix. So the idea of pulling a lot of great aspects of previous spiderman movies and comics into the same world, and playing with that, is fine in my book.

I'm happy to see what they give us; and if it's a movie that's even half as good as holland's other spiderman flicks, but with an Alfred Molina Doc Oc throwing cars and chewing scenery for 20 minutes before he's sucked back into a vortex of "boy It's a good thing we fixed the interdimensional tear", never to be seen again; then I'll still be a happy camper.
 
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In the MCU, the Multiverse was a BS story from Mysterio. But okay, I'll concede that it is canon. I just hate that the only way they could tell a new Spider-Man story was by bringing in other Spider-Men and villains from old movies. Into the Spiderverse could do it because cartoons can inherently do goofy stuff like that. I think if I was Tom Holland, I'd be a little insulted that Tobey and Andrew are going to steal my spotlight in my own movie. And the great villains from the other 2 Spider-Man MCU movies are replaced by one good villain, one in a goofy suit that audiences never really liked, and a lame one from a movie that lots of people didn't like. I really hope they can get Nicholas Hammond in this one somewhere.

In the Doctor Strange film, Ancient One asks Strange, "Who are you in this vast multiverse?" She then explains the branch timelines in Endgame to Banner, the Loki series shows us there are infinite alternate timelines and lots of different versions of all MCU characters. There is now the Marvel What If... series that is canonically a multiverse series with different versions of familiar characters. They plan each line in each film to that will interconnect to the rest of the MCU, its not at random that the multiverse is a thing.

But also, Spider-Man is Sony's property. At the post credits scene of Venom, the title card says "meanwhile in another universe.." The Spiderverse animated film is canon to having a Sony multiverse, there was already an established canon multiverse for Spidey before Mysterio hit the screen.
 
I gotta say, as fun as NWH looks, I really really really hate the trend in movies and TV of "Bring back old characters. It doesn't matter if it makes no sense." The Star Wars sequels did it, the MCU is really leaning into it now, Michael Keaton is back as Batman in the Flash movie, Star Trek brought back Nimoy and Picard, Ghostbusters is doing it, and there's a bunch more examples. They're shoveling nostalgia at us, and I'd much rather see new stories with these new casts. Don't eat the Member Berries.
With ya in that..
 
I was heavily into comics most of my life, even workcomic book store for 15 years, 10 of those years as a manager.. buying and selling, wheeling and dealing.. comics was a big part of my life for a long time

when marvel introduce the multiverse and 616 earth stuff.. it totally through me out of it

this whole multiverse thing I feel is nothing more then a excuse to write what ever they want and have zero consequence… you can kill who ever you want.. but it’s old because that character can live in a different book because that’s a different universe

this is just me but i feel like it really devalues characters and makes for lazy writing and with lazy writing comes stupid stories.. and really really bad decisions…

when they teased the multiverse in the last film I was like thank god, he was just lying.. but now it looks like it’s really going this way..

Idk.. I hate being a negative nelly.. but I didn’t like it in the books.. don’t think I’ll like it here either.. but I could be wrong
 
One weird thought about the Multiverse before I go to bed. Mysterio said he was from Earth-833, and that the MCU was Earth-616. Wouldn't everyone who discovered the Multiverse call their own world Earth-1? Who's deciding the numbers?
 
One weird thought about the Multiverse before I go to bed. Mysterio said he was from Earth-833, and that the MCU was Earth-616. Wouldn't everyone who discovered the Multiverse call their own world Earth-1? Who's deciding the numbers?
The Loki series explains this, its best to go watch it if you want to learn about MCU multiverse
 
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