Spider-Man: No Way Home

[Halliwax]

I just thought they didn’t go to court yet, I’m amazed the avengers never helped him, then again nick furry is off planet.. maybe if he were on planet it would be different

But I just figured they got out on bail and were waiting for their court date

 

[JediMichael]

Matt Murdock is Daredevil's Secret Identity, who is an Attorney in pretty much all incarnations of the characters, Comics, Cartoons, previous live action shows. This particular version of DareDevil/Matt Murdock is played by Charlie Cox, who previously played the role in the Netflix Daredevil series, where just like in all his other incarnations is a very good attorney.

Ok, figured it was something like that.

 

[Lightning]

And now that I think about it, the one weird part, is how at the beginning they all get questioned/arrested and then are out. So either they didn't actually get arrested, or bonded out, then they are talking to the blind guy, who I'm guessing is suppose to be Daredevil. (From the tv show? Is he an attorney?)
But after that scene, they are totally free like no legal trouble happened at all.

in the end, this movie just isn't "The Trial of Peter Parker". So they had to acknowledge the fallout. We, the audience, knows Peter didn't do anything wrong, So they have a legal expert (Daredevil) tell Peter (and us) that the Governent doesn't have a case. We can therefore assume that they were succesful in proving the truth about what happened between Peter and Mysterio to the Authorities, even if a good portion of the public still doesn't believe Spiderman's side of the story.

 

[Halliwax]

in the end, this movie just isn't "The Trial of Peter Parker". So they had to acknowledge the fallout. We, the audience, knows Peter didn't do anything wrong, So they have a legal expert (Daredevil) tell Peter (and us) that the Governent doesn't have a case. We can therefore assume that they were succesful in proving the truth about what happened between Peter and Mysterio to the Authorities, even if a good portion of the public still doesn't believe Spiderman's side of the story.

sorry im confused, are you saying the movie is saying the trail already happened and peter for away with everything they just didn't show any of that?

 

[CadetTK2386]

sorry im confused, are you saying the movie is saying the trail already happened and peter for away with everything they just didn't show any of that?

What I believe he's saying is that since we the audience already know that Peter did nothing wrong, there would be no point in having the trial be a part of the film. It would not be worth our time to have an extended part of the movie be about Peter trying to legally prove that he was innocent when we the audience already undeniably know he's innocent. In order to circumvent the need for a big trial to belabor a point the audience already knows, the Filmmakers have a Legal Expert explain to Peter that the Government has no case to prosecute him, and there won't be any trial then we can move onto the emotional and social fall out of the events of the past movie, the things which are the real heart of the movie and would be the same whether or not we had an extended trial scene or not. Certain sections of the public would never believe Peter was innocent even if a Jury found him Not Guilty, so the movie doesn't bother to take the time to go into that, just has the legal expert say they can't take you to trial, and then we move onto the real meat of the plot.

 

[JediMichael]

It just feels odd in how quicky its done, even though irs not the plot point of the movie.
It probably would have worked better, instead of them in the kitchen saying he was a good attorney, to instead cut to a judge reading a not guilty verdict and Matt Murdock looks and then says something like, "See, told you I was a good attorney."
Something like that, as the way they did it felt a little confusing.
But other than that little part, I really loved it.

 

[HMSwolfe]

The point is, though, that everyone knows the charges wouldn’t stick. This kind of thing happens a lot. People get threatened with litigation because someone is pissed and thinks that they can get away with it, and a competent lawyer on the side of the defense looks at the charges/complaints/what have you, and determines that it’s BS. So they drop the charges or settle or whatever. I personally don’t care. I did not want to see “the trial of Spider-Man” in really any shape or form in this movie, and I genuinely liked seeing Charlie Cox show up.

 

[Halliwax]

My question still is.. when I’m watching the movie, when doc ock shows up.. we the audience are suppose to know the trail already happened and peter got away with everything?

I ask this because I was under the impression he was out on bail or something and court never began, since he was erased we never had to worry about it

 

[JediMichael]

My question still is.. when I’m watching the movie, when doc ock shows up.. we the audience are suppose to know the trail already happened and peter got away with everything?

I ask this because I was under the impression he was out on bail or something and court never began, since he was erased we never had to worry about it

His friends were also in trouble and they weren't erased.
I wonder if there WERE more scenes involving the arrest stuff, but got cut due to time and pacing.....

 

[Lightning]

My question still is.. when I’m watching the movie, when doc ock shows up.. we the audience are suppose to know the trail already happened and peter got away with everything?

I ask this because I was under the impression he was out on bail or something and court never began, since he was erased we never had to worry about it

He was never officially charged with any crime, there was no trial at all. We just skip over the part where he, Happy, and Matt Murdock go over the events of the previous movie with the government investigators and prove to their satisfaction that Mysterio faked everything and got himself killed in the process.

 

[Halliwax]

He was never officially charged with any crime, there was no trial at all. We just skip over the part where he, Happy, and Matt Murdock go over the events of the previous movie with the government investigators and prove to their satisfaction that Mysterio faked everything and got himself killed in the process.

Thank you, see I was under the impression none of that happened yet

Thanks for clarifying

 

[cboath]

He was never officially charged with any crime, there was no trial at all. We just skip over the part where he, Happy, and Matt Murdock go over the events of the previous movie with the government investigators and prove to their satisfaction that Mysterio faked everything and got himself killed in the process.

This. In order for the others to be charged as accessories.....in NYC......there would have to be crimes already assigned to Spiderman with warrants out for his arrest, in NYC. That was never stated to be the case. The ONLY thing we are given that he can be accused of is the death of Mysterio, which occurred in London. NYC can't do squat in that scenario unless the UK files for extradition and requests his arrest in the USA. With no input on that video saying the others were involved, the UK can't request extradition of anyone else. So there's nothing to hold them on. As far as Peter goes, should that go to court, all they have is the word of a still alive Mysterio on video before he died saying Peter killed him. There's no real material evidence supporting the accusation. As for Peter being in control of the Stark tech, well, it'd be very easy for Pepper or whomever at Stark to bring records showing the rights were transferred and under Mysterio's control at that time.

That's a messy convoluted explanation and they wouldn't want to address it on screen, but the reality is, it would never have gone to trial in the first place.

 

[Halliwax]

This. In order for the others to be charged as accessories.....in NYC......there would have to be crimes already assigned to Spiderman with warrants out for his arrest, in NYC. That was never stated to be the case. The ONLY thing we are given that he can be accused of is the death of Mysterio, which occurred in London. NYC can't do squat in that scenario unless the UK files for extradition and requests his arrest in the USA. With no input on that video saying the others were involved, the UK can't request extradition of anyone else. So there's nothing to hold them on. As far as Peter goes, should that go to court, all they have is the word of a still alive Mysterio on video before he died saying Peter killed him. There's no real material evidence supporting the accusation. As for Peter being in control of the Stark tech, well, it'd be very easy for Pepper or whomever at Stark to bring records showing the rights were transferred and under Mysterio's control at that time.

That's a messy convoluted explanation and they wouldn't want to address it on screen, but the reality is, it would never have gone to trial in the first place.

Hmmm.. if your not into law, you should think about a career change

 

[CessnaDriver]

Saw it with my brother and friends. We all liked it.
I think at this point, typing a spoiler is unavoidable.....
...and so, I realized that all the fan theories and ideas were pretty much all completely correct.
I know a lot of people thought there was a lot of fan service, but I felt it actually added to the plot pretty nicely, much better than Ghostbusters:AL did, and much MUCH better than Star Wars 7 tried to do.
I can only imagine what they had to go through to get all the actors together and that the writers were probably on the edge of their seat waiting to know before they wrote to much out.

Afterwards, my brother is like, I guess I should have watched the Andrew Garfield movies.

I didn't watch the Garfield movies and it actually works this way pretty well, I mean they don't know about each other so it was good to be in on it that way too. I mean I knew it was him when he popped up and I knew the villians he had, and of course the Gwen Stacy comic lore but that was about it.

 

[JediMichael]

I didn't watch the Garfield movies and it actually works this way pretty well, I mean they don't know about each other so it was good to be in on it that way too. I mean I knew it was him when he popped up and I knew the villians he had, and of course the Gwen Stacy comic lore but that was about it.

I though he was good as Spider-man and all in those movies, but the movies themselves weren't so great.
But it all comes down to the fact that I really need another Jedimichael to come and help crack my back.

 

[Halliwax]

I though he was good as Spider-man and all in those movies, but the movies themselves weren't so great.
But it all comes down to the fact that I really need another Jedimichael to come and help crack my back.

Lol the back cracking is a continuous joke lol

 

[Treadwell]

There's no suggestion there was ever a trial. The charges were likely dropped, and that's the end of that.

 

[Halliwax]

There's no suggestion there was ever a trial. The charges were likely dropped, and that's the end of that.

Because daredevil is a really good lawyer

 

[George]

And he knows where they sleep

 

[NakedMoleRat]

I am under the opinion that MJ will be the one to crack this wide open.

She will remember the time she spent with Spider-Man. She will remember swinging with him through New York City, and the feelings of confidence and love she had for him.

She will also know that there’s no way she could love Spider-Man and not know who he really is!

She will then figure out there’s other big gaping holes in her memory, and realize something happened to do that. I doubt that she will get those memories back, but she will likely trace it all back to Peter Parker.