Limited Run Sign up thread for NEW Luke V2 light saber run. Spring 2018 edition (SIGN UP CLOSED)

[badboibill]

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It seems like the dimensions are really off on the "thin neck" part (much fatter on the AS version vs. the real prop.) I wonder if the solo's hold version will have a different, smaller thin neck.

 

[Pixelpiper]

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It seems like the dimensions are really off on the "thin neck" part (much fatter on the AS version vs. the real prop.) I wonder if the solo's hold version will have a different, smaller thin neck.

Here. We. Go. Again.

 

[badboibill]

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What. Does. That. Mean?

I'm guessing other people have noticed this as well?

 

[darthcue]

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What. Does. That. Mean?

I'm guessing other people have noticed this as well?

It is a lighting issue on the picture that made the neck thicker...


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[badboibill]

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Gotcha. To me it doesn't seem like a lighting issue, because it looks like the dimensions are off in all photos of it, not just one. But I'm just eyeballing it so I could be wrong.

 

[Mark P]

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But I'm just eyeballing it so I could be wrong.

Correct.

 

[Trooper_trent]

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Gotcha. To me it doesn't seem like a lighting issue, because it looks like the dimensions are off in all photos of it, not just one. But I'm just eyeballing it so I could be wrong.

You posted the same thing in my stencils thread here almost two weeks ago.
https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=286155&page=23&p=4478448&viewfull=1#post4478448
and I even showed you photographic evidence of how they're identical. You're probably subconsciously comparing the thinner upper neck without gaffer's tape to the thicker lower neck and it's tricking your eye or something when you see it next to the prop with gaffer's tape. The ratio is different which may be causing a slight optical illusion. Straight on images from different distances with different lenses can change things drastically. Dan uses state of the art techniques to get the CAD model dead on and his perspective software that accounts for the camera distortion proves that.

 

[badboibill]

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That's right, I posted in your thread and you told me to try posting in this thread lol. This is what you said: "You can ask him on the V2 thread if you want.
This thread is for paint stencils." So you can't be too upset that I posted over here. I know what you're saying about the gaffer's tape section, but I'm not comparing the upper and lower thin necks. The lower thin neck section still looks quite a bit larger on the AS model to me.

 

[Trooper_trent]

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That's right, I posted in your thread and you told me to try posting in this thread lol. This is what you said: "You can ask him on the V2 thread if you want.
This thread is for paint stencils." So you can't be too upset that I posted over here. I know what you're saying about the gaffer's tape section, but I'm not comparing the upper and lower thin necks. The lower thin neck section still looks quite a bit larger on the AS model to me.

Not upset in the slightest bit. PixelPiper said "Here we go again." and you asked "what does that mean." so I was explaining his "here we go again" in that you asked the same question before in my thread.

Not that it matters. The team effort of long-time members, including those that have seen and held the thing in their own hands, and countless hours spent pouring over this prop for the past 13 years or so, culminating in Dan's latest release, if you'll forgive my kurtness, carries a bit more weight than your self-admitted "eyeballing it". This run is all said and done so there's no going back even if there were something off about it, so I guess I don't really understand the purpose of bringing this up twice now, is all.
I guess if you wanted to provide examples of what you're talking about, people could discuss it more, but I did already offer multiple comparison shots, two of which have Dan's final model in wire frame overlay and they all match up exactly.

 

[badboibill]

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Oh I agree. That's why I was posting here: I know people on here have much more experience with the prop than me, so I was curious to see if anybody else was seeing it the same way I was. I'm not interested in "going back" on the run, but sometimes if an error or discrepancy is observed, the next run (whomever may produce it) can benefit from that information. I guess, more than anything, I was looking to see if anybody else noticed a discrepancy in the dimensions.

 

[darthcue]

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Oh I agree. That's why I was posting here: I know people on here have much more experience with the prop than me, so I was curious to see if anybody else was seeing it the same way I was. I'm not interested in "going back" on the run, but sometimes if an error or discrepancy is observed, the next run (whomever may produce it) can benefit from that information. I guess, more than anything, I was looking to see if anybody else noticed a discrepancy in the dimensions.

Your eyeballing is wrong period...


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[badboibill]

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It looks fatter to me and I feel like I've offended you by saying that. The only reason I posted here is to see if anybody else was seeing what I see. I've gotten a couple dm's from people who agree, so I know I'm not the only one who's seeing things. By the way... given all the wireframes and studies of photos etc. at the end of the day, it's educated guesswork (unless you cast the real thing which, as far as I'm aware, nobody has done.) What I'm doing is really no different than what you're doing: looking at the photos and comparing them. I feel like some people are under the impression that I'm out to insult Dan or something but that's not true. At any rate, Dan's done a wonderful job on this run and I didn't mean to disrespect anybody here.

 

[roygilsing]

Nobody should feel offended and nobody should respond in an uncivilized way. Everybody is entitled to their views and opinion.
As the maker of some of those comparison pictures I am surprised when you say that the neck is 'really off'. When you write that, it sounds as a major discrepancy, which I don't think is the case.
It would help if you would illustrate your view with an image and some pointers. If I understand your point correctly and you mean the exposed neck diameter, I agree that comparing an unpainted aluminum replica neck to a painted real prop neck might visually give a different feeling of thickness, because of the gloss on the cylinder shape. So that's the 'trick of the light'. Could that be the reason of your feeling of discrepancy? I don't think the neck really is thicker and the 3D efforts of Dan and I have been rather precise.

Roy

 

[Trooper_trent]

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Nobody should feel offended and nobody should respond in an uncivilized way. Everybody is entitled to their views and opinion.
As the maker of some of those comparison pictures I am surprised when you say that the neck is 'really off'. When you write that, it sounds as a major discrepancy, which I don't think is the case.
It would help if you would illustrate your view with an image and some pointers. If I understand your point correctly and you mean the exposed neck diameter, I agree that comparing an unpainted aluminum replica neck to a painted real prop neck might visually give a different feeling of thickness, because of the gloss on the cylinder shape. So that's the 'trick of the light'. Could that be the reason of your feeling of discrepancy? I don't think the neck really is thicker and the 3D efforts of Dan and I have been rather precise.

Roy

Agreed. Nobody's offended. we just don't see what you are seeing and you haven't offered anything more than "it looks fatter to me."
Here's another overlay with 0 stretching or manipulation. Looks exactly the same to me. I second what Roy said. Looking at a black neck against a black background (this photo could have even been shopped onto a black plate) makes it more difficult to distinguish an outline than bare aluminum in broad daylight.

 

[mangler988]

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When I first compared the two I also thought the original might be just a tad thicker, however after looking a bit more I came to the personal conclusion as well that it was just an illusion from lighting, and the gaffers tape.

I think Trent's comparison photos illustrate that perfectly. It appears to me that the gaffers tape may not be tightly wound, or has just started coming off after all these years, and is loose around the neck giving it a thicker appearance.

 

[2keepandbear]

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As I have a question for everyone. In the past, I have finished these sabers with rustoleum etching primer followed by rustoleum satin black. I’ve seen some using just straight black primer and calling it day. Just curious what everyone is using for their finishing paints for their V2’s!

 

[Halliwax]

As I have a question for everyone. In the past, I have finished these sabers with rustoleum etching primer followed by rustoleum satin black. I’ve seen some using just straight black primer and calling it day. Just curious what everyone is using for their finishing paints for their V2’s!

I don’t use primer on mine. I wipe the entire saber down with acetone, let dry

And now use high performance flat black from rustoleum number

7578 flat black

I spray it, then with a paper towel randomly buff areas to give the paint a satin shine in some areas

Scottjua taught me this trick

I use to use a satin black, then use acetone to dull areas. It comes out basically the same, but the acetone is smelly.. ruins paint brushes, and in the end the 7578 flat black is a cheaper and more friendly way to go

Now doing the 7578 flat black method, I’ll never go back

I also seal the entire saber with a rustoleum matte finish.

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[Duck9000]

Hi halliwax, did you get my PM?. Please let me know. Thanks!!

 

[Halliwax]

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Hi @halliwax, did you get my PM?. Please let me know. Thanks!!

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[Duck9000]

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Awesome, as always. Thanks!