Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

Yes RickC137 I guess I'm a little out of step by now, you're right. But unless they cancel my order as they have already done due to IT messes due to transactions, in the end I also got a SR, it should be on the way in a couple weeks, the substantial discount had arrived and I was too curious not to have it.
If it arrives, and I really liked it, I might even leave it as it is, not even making a bunch of posts here, although about pure tailoring skills I'm certainly better than many of the experiments with colors and coverings I've done, which are sometimes too experimental, and I might always try to do my best to tweak it.

Maybe I could very well keep two coats and get kinda fixed look for winter, like comic book heroes :)
they would both be twill, the only thing, I love duck canvas and I have a great summer jacket in that cloth, but that's fine too, I'll be kinda "twill specialist" here for k coat.

I believe the style of this garment has such a general appeal, even if people participate little now, that it could become a milestone in this sense, over time.

However, soon I will have the opportunity to disappear and return to my activities, but the suggestions and the thread door, I remain here and open, unless someone closes it
 
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RickC137 as said, it was impossible to keep the result I had in that moment, because if just I took a rain solid enough, the work I did with the colors when was visually at its best, would have probably fade away quickly.
The work I did at that time, probably it was perfect for a film set or cosplay outing, where all these temporary, scenic things are not a problem, in fact only the momentary effect counts and the more perfect it is, the better.
But I didn't want to just pretend here, I wanted the result of a solid, definitive coat, and in the end what Mechanismo wrote on the wax turned out to be the best compromise, practically all of you did it to those who came out well, and in the end I ended up there too.

SR doesn't need wax or color touch-ups, no one else would have given me a similar alternative (except the coat I already got from bep), if I then want it to be the same as Jameel's style which follows the film perfectly, I'll see if I'm up to it, but on a garment like that, there's you can bet I won't risk any mess. Just to understand if they end it to me or refund me again, in case it wouldn't be possible for me to get it, nevermind, I keep mine like it is now, it's nice anyway for me. The torn part at the eyelet zone, it was before waxing, now it seems barely unscratchable, waxed clothes done properly, can last almost for life
 
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for the record (but don't "try" this at home!), it would also be actually possible to even wash a waxed garment, if really needed.
I was feared about clots to be created, but a good quality wax designed for clothing, it shouldn't (it happened to me in the past, using a very low quality wax and probably I also exceeded in the applied amount of wax, that time).

Barbour wax instructionals expressely says not to wash, but it seems barbour wax it's denser, and maybe easier to be removed even with simple washing actions.
Greenland wax and Otter wax instructionals instead, open about also washing it in a buck with mild water and delicate detergent (Greenland says even at 40°c, but the wax should start melting at 35-40 so I believe it is a bit too much and would never try that).

I tested on some fabric scraps, even with extreme methods (soaking in bleach for hours, a washing machine cycle at 90°C etc), the wax layer becomes thinner of course, but basically it stays there always a bit. To remove it completely, it seems barely impossible to me, except by destroying the fabric, if I waxed it making the wax permeate the cloth properly.
 
Bro you're the only one burning the midnight oil... lol it's about to be Fin' summer already hah,, keep the dream alive though, that's what's up..
I'm about to get around to my 2nd coat of Barbour.. I'm surprised you like the Otter wax.. but mine was the bar wax.. not the tin like yours.. that was likely way easier n effective.. keep it goin..!

I STILL wish you never focked with when you had it aqua blue looking.. it was BETTER than the movie version.. and you just had to mess with it more! Lol.. ; )
yes the fabric dressing is more solid in penetrating the cloth properly, but I used both: first the fabric dressing to give more of a "factory-like" finish, then used the bar where needed.
On Jameel's laminate, you can consider my size as an european L (the same I get from SR, crossing my finger if it would ever come to me), half tin and half large (5oz) bar were enough. I have enough wax to coat again if needed.
Barbour wax is safe for sure, but I was minding not to have any paraffine-base wax to make contact with my face, all-natural waxes (as Otter or Kuhl) work great too if applied properly, maybe I can just spray sanitizer (or even wash with only sponge kindly) every now and then, in order to give a bit more of anti microbial touch, since paraffine works for that, or in the future also buy paraffine-based wax too and when re-waxing will be needed, only applying it at the external part, using Otter again for the edges around the fur. I'll see.

The only thing is that it still need time to completely cure, it's due because this cloth I got doesn't keep much wax, for sure.
But since summer is coming, I don't need odor eliminator and not even to wear it that much now, it will fade in next months
 
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finally I received the email from them, SR is confirmed on the way.
It was my last shot on the k coat topic, then as I already said, I will choose whether to sell one of the two, but no matter how well the albeit a little ruined bep turned out for me, in the end, I think I'll keep them both to use them, we'll see.
Will the SR be able to hold its own? I will post comparisons with mine, when it was an original bep, and as it is now, and I won't be able to compare with a duck canvas too because then this time I will stop for real, but at least it will give an idea of the two "laminates" which is the closest, I fear that SR will win anyway from the cloth aspect, being an "acrylic wax"(made by professionals); Jameel's "laminate", I find it very particular as I understood from a while that it most likely contains spandex in the fibres, it is more of a mixed fabric than a real laminate as the word is intended (I don't believe it is just cotton pressed with plastic material), and this is the reason why it binds little wax, even though it now almost completely cured and has turned out quite well.

Here is my old Timberland mid-season jacket, which had some nice cyberpunk details especially on the shoulder design, bought during the Matrix the movie era and therefore in the typical styles of that period, it was quite atypical for Timberland and I immediately liked it, but essentially it was still an anonymous style and didn't leave completely the Timberland typical sporty soul, it is in polyester canvas, I just modified the collar making it more stylish: it now has a nubuck leather interior and a twill cotton exterior that I just finished waxing with Otter (same method used for my k coat), it gives an idea of other differences that are obtained (here on basic black color for all three types of material shown), the wax looks really similar to the film, gives a futuristic look and really makes me see another confirmation that a wsl (or a bep even better, if however with all the improvements discussed here on lining, wider collar etc), waxed with the utmost expertise, it is the flagship k coat replica, but for me now to dispel my SR curiosity, I felt obliged.

If someone then posts other good pics on an uncoated duck bep which has been waxed properly (and which if I had chosen instead of laminate, before waxing it, I would certainly have optimized the color more easily than I was able to on this one), perhaps it will be understood, based on the replicas available today, which one can be considered the best base, at least for what concerns SA.
 

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Hi everybody! You SR owners, how well do your coats match the models' coats on their website? are they consistent with the coats in the photos which are a little weary, worn and antique in color, or are they more saturated and solid in colour like new looking? Is it something important for you guys or it doesn't matter? This look I'm talking about is mainly in good, bright light that you see this effect with the tint worn colour.
 
Hi everybody! You SR owners, how well do your coats match the models' coats on their website? are they consistent with the coats in the photos which are a little weary, worn and antique in color, or are they more saturated and solid in colour like new looking? Is it something important for you guys or it doesn't matter? This look I'm talking about is mainly in good, bright light that you see this effect with the tint worn colour.
I already own a non-SR coat on which I worked a lot to make it more similar to the film and also more practical to use on a daily basis, and given the amount of work (which my many interventions here, largely testify well), unfortunately one of the defects that will remain on this one, it's just an excess of wear in some aspects, it really looks a little like K's jacket just finished fighting with someone tough (and then cleaned,at least...)

I purchased a SR that is coming to me, which perhaps I will keep together with the other one I have, alternating them as desired (or perhaps I will keep only one, then evaluating which one) so I will soon give a definitive answer, but with respect to the scenes of the film, remaining relevant to your question, as far as my personal taste is concerned, I think it makes sense to find a middle ground between the distressed effect (which doesn't seem so evident on SR's photos anyway) and the "too new" effect.
Of course, if I were to think about "aging" the SR fabric, I think I would categorically avoid it... too expensive and seems valuable, from what I see of it on the web
 
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Hi everybody! You SR owners, how well do your coats match the models' coats on their website? are they consistent with the coats in the photos which are a little weary, worn and antique in color, or are they more saturated and solid in colour like new looking? Is it something important for you guys or it doesn't matter? This look I'm talking about is mainly in good, bright light that you see this effect with the tint worn colour.

Hi. SR owner here. What you see on their website is what you get. The slighty used look is there on mine as well and I really like it.
 
heads up,

I just bought couple bars of Greenland wax and waxed another jacket, caught the chance to give a lite second coat on my k coat.
I think now it's a bit too bluyish-greenish in the sunlight but honestly, I don't care about perfect SA (that I consider closer to a neutral grey) because I'm just in love with that color actually, there were some little point where it was not perfectly even if watching at it carefully, now the second coat made it uniform and actually not possible to achieve better on this one.
Ready for the face off with SR as soon as it comes to me.

Otter = more fluid and permeates the tissue better, smells a bit too much, "sweats" a lot after applied, real curing time very long, outstanding "factory-like" finish (especially the fabric dressing, but also the bars are so useful for retouches), very long to melt (the dressing), harder to work with than Barbour wax (but Barbour wax, even if permeating the tissue even more, I found it less effective for the finish, maybe it works better if you put a lot of it onto the fabric, or on uncoated, only organic fiber-based fabrics).

Greenland = denser, add even more weight and sturdiness to the cloth (very similar to the "thornproof" Barbour fabric dressing), it masks small scars on the tissue better as it is more structured but it takes more application and work with a heat gun etc to make it perfectly uniform (this time I also used latex gloves, small piece at a time as always, but crushing each time with the fingers immediately, even quickly and thoroughly harder than already done with Otter), add a bit of stiffness (great on the smooth bep laminate, but perhaps exceeding on a cloth which is already too stiff)
Designed for "g-1000" fjallraven clothing, I read those clothes are 65% synthetic and 35% cotton, and actually, it binds better on bep laminate than Otter, in fact I think that's why it gave this even more perfect result. Otter is sold as suitable for every material and it works, but the mix, at least for mine, definitely worked the best possible I can say now.

Greenland is sold as letting the garments washable: it melts (going from being almost a paste when just applied to suddenly liquid, I'd say, actually it seems another kind of wax) at 55-60°C, and as I had already read, washable till 40° (as in pic, this is the limit for wax removal, I wouldn't wash, but if needed, I won't go more than 25-30°).

I expressely wanted the bars for those jobs and final touches now, but probably if you were to wax a uncoated duck, better use fabric dressing like Barbour or Otter, depending on which kind of finish you're looking for (Otter is smoother but lighter, it fits well on a primary coat for non-all natural cloth that needs to be permeate deeply at first coat and with a denser wax as Barbour, would probably then sweat off too much wax the days after).

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for the record, and for anyone in EU interested, I'm going to receive SR (from England, of course).
I knew what I was up against, as with Bates which are almost never found here, and I bought well before becoming interested in the coat, from L.A. and from UK now the situation is similar even if that purchase was 3 years ago).
Anyway I say it, given that no SR owner seems to me to have ever clearly expressed this in this regard here on the forum.

The customs are about to ask me for an amount (which I will not dispute, as it would only be a waste of time and money in this case, having done the necessary checks that it could really end up like this) with which it would almost equalize the price of a WSL, I'm not even saying waxed and customized size, but brand new, which customs duties would certainly be negligible, if we count such a crazy result for a SR discounted coat now.

Obviously I don't blame SR for this, and luckily I had already taken that into account (almost), otherwise who knows how the **** it would have ended.
Even more so, it will truly be my last chapter on the subject and I could avoid making changes that do not go beyond what is 100% safe, in the sense that for example if the fur won't be really crappy, I could keep it as it is, because I expect excellent quality which no one here has ever disputed in fact, and at that point I will keep two coats, one more SA which is my current one, and the other -SR- for perhaps more elegant occasions, even over a suit , and never at the slightest risk of ruining it, as my current one is most suitable, after super waxing it seems practically indestructible and cut-proof.

However, a total of around 650 euros in total when buying on sale, is something simply insane.
Many say that our customs here in Italy are shady, I could agree on that, but I have read the EU directives on imports of this kind, there is little to say for others in EU too, which at this point I would really like to read here in turn based on his own experience of the case. Could you kindly say how much do you pay for your SR in any details (vendor price / shipment / duties)?
For me, in the end was about 430€ sale price (full price is now only about 50€ more, perhaps because of summer, but I think it's simply more substantial for uk customers because I read "100 pounds off" and before they recently updated the website, it was like that in that currency) + 50€ shipment + 180€ duties (this last one, speaks for itself about how much it might be worth it today for those in the EU to buy anything of a certain value from outside).
I assume that in all likelihood, if you booked a low cost flight well in advance, if you had the time to spare, it would be worth a trip to England and picking it up in person.

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thank goodness I once said "I don't collect identical coats" :lol: :lol:

soon the most accurate comparison I can, obviously they are not identical and from the SA aspect I'll already spoil the winner, which is not SR.

Aside from the huge amount of money spent on duties, I can't say I regret it in any case, I will really end up alternating them, and the SR quality is really excellent.

I'll say in advance that the SR size is really tight, the length is just a little longer than mine, and it fits me like a glove, it's L but it seems a custom size, I probably would have had more room for maneuver only with an XL even if I am clearly an L (EU sizes), currently chest 106cm and waist 87cm, maybe I'm a little too "pumped up" from my workouts especially on the arms, but I don't see it that way, secondly it is really suitable for those who like the "snug fit".
 

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considering that now that I'm going to finish this last review, it will be then definitely time for me to stop posting on the thread (except to stay in touch and possibly exchange a couple pics next winter, when time will come for wearing it again), I will now make more posts to better describe it, since there are so many points to analyze.

I can anticipate my final vision:
considering that it is impossible to replicate what I did on Jameel's laminate (I certainly couldn't do it the same again), and that some details of his coats, at least from my pov, have not seen the necessary corrections (width of the collar first and foremost), the best solution to have an absolutely SA quality coat spending as little as possible, is to buy a WSL, not expect them to make all the necessary changes (which they have shown they do only in certain cases), be prepared to work on it a lot (starting from the collar, then the edges where the piping needs to be inserted, the fur needs to be replaced etc everything needed before finally waxing properly) or in any case put your hand in your wallet and have others do it (which, also considering that when I don't do it myself I never have guarantees, sounds wrong to me).
Alternative: buy from Jameel in the appropriate channels, ask for the correct collar setting and a generous length towards the bottom (and here it depends on how you are made, because it's not enough for me to tell you that I'm 178cm and have a neck-bottom back length of 100cm, it seemed adequate to me, but instead 110cm would have been fine if one really wanted to match the film fully).

Now that I have the most expensive and valuable term of comparison possible, I can clearly say that Jameel's quality is not low, indeed overall, despite some points that are debatable, at least my coat from him in the end was definitely a positive purchase (at least for me, and with all the skills I tried to put into it after), and considering what I saw here on WSL (I certainly won't buy that one too, so for that I rely on the forum), I would say that Magnoli, WSL , SR, and Jameel (BEP/ELS), none of them, from my pov, sell stuff that gives the impression of cosplay clothing: they are all quality.
The SA style is Jameel's, flaws or not, and it's no contest on too many details, imho.
The SR feels like a really practical and solid piece to wear, but the style it has, as Mechanismo pointed out in the past, is that of a "k-inspired" coat, not a faithful replica.

In the next posts I'll go into more detail about my analysis
 
I'll start with the topic that I've dealt with the most from a personal pov: color.
My impression is that the color I got on my bep in the end is what I saw here on the web, I expected from SR.
This doesn't mean that SR disappointed me, on the contrary.
The color of SR also has some irregularities, absolutely not unsightly, cut on the reflection of a cloudy external light (like that of the Mesa scenes), some light shades tending towards brownish beyond the base greenish hue (for sure it is an effect they well studied to make), but basically the color is closer to that of the film (which I considered more of a greenish gray than a grayish green, therefore more tending towards neutral gray than my bep is, which precisely to resemble what I believed was the most colorful effect of a live SR, I managed to give a little more color tone which is therefore less pure gray and closer to a slate/petrol green than SR actually is).
Placed under a warmer light, they practically seem the same color.
Also the brightness depends from the light, it's practically the same, but sometimes mine is a bit darker, sometimes SR is a bit darker, it's a fine line anyway.
The shine is almost the same, my double layer of wax covers the weave a little more.
Maybe a WSL lightened and corrected a little in color, being also a duck, and then waxed, could have come out even more similar to the film, but I think that both examples here, in terms of tone and effect, to me, are almost on par with the film now.

The letters on SR's back are a pleasant surprise: they are never welcome since I am far from wanting the coat to do cosplay gatherings (but I would never say never, we'll see), in any case they are done so well, that I like them a lot, they give a touch particular (by the way I still don't understand what symbols they are), they are seen more clearly only with light pointed in a certain way, otherwise they are barely perceptible and that's really fine by me.

I don't think I should put aside other pics from the movie as you already have all those needed to compare, I just put again one showing how my bep originally looked, it was clearly overshining and darker, even if in person it's better to figure out

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point number two: collar, piping effects (and stitching details) and fur.

Well, there is little to say, on SR there are too many inaccuracies and Jameel's model wins on all fronts, apart from the SA or not issue, it needs to be modified, because imo it is still nicer and that's it, except for the size issue, on that the pic explains itself.

Considering that this size L that they sold me as a "regular fit" inviting me to take a M if I wanted it "snug", instead it is even slightly tight on me with the sweater, the collar is instead wonderfully wider, suitable for some modifications, and above all, I don't think it's true that if you modify the position by moving it back, the right lapel must necessarily widen too much when opened, it could simply be necessary to create some structures (like what I had already done with the buckram) inside the triangular part of the lapels that turns when open, so that they hold the limits of the shape better, but if I decided to try to put piping in a radical way and maybe partially redo the stitching on the edges, I could still shorten them if they are too wide and have some room for maneuver, but in any case the upper edge of the lapels is 4-5cm shorter than Jameel's which are perfect, so in my opinion, instead it would be fine to do it.
However, I don't think I will go for such twisting on the collar at all costs, but I believe in my theory, which was about just shortening the right side of it at the base, so then curving it more to give also the protruding when folded, avoiding to shift it, and not protruding the left part over the left lapel junction instead, it should close the same because it's way longer than my bep and the room for that is relevant, the pic speaks for itself about how much wider SR collar is if compared to my bep (which now closes anyway).

I definitely have to add a collar stand and some buckram inside the collar to give better shape, together with other magnets for the various functions that here, are completely absent (I cannot understand how other SR owners are able to withstand the proper open shape and even the simplest closure effectively, if they have not tweaked all those details).

The left lapel-collar joint made without the 4 seams, on the other hand, is very beautiful and functional, it doesn't let air through, if you lengthen the lapels a little (obviously having to do it on the left too if you do it on the right to move the collar attachment a little), we'll see if it will hold equally well.

The curvature of the lapels, on the other hand, seems really excessive to me, and in terms of doing all that hard work, if I ever do it, I could just shorten it and make it straighter once I get to the final stage of the eventual work, so it would be perfect.

The fur, I have to admit that it does indeed seem a bit like a carpet, but in any case it is of quality to the touch and has a very pleasant effect when worn, certainly if I take it off I would keep it as valuable spare parts, but as an idea, I would be strongly encouraged to put the same SA fur I put on my BEP.

Many seamlines are better on my bep, for instance I simply prefer hiding my magnets (possibly avoiding the super glue, though) without squaring them as on the SR, I will evaluate what possible without letting holes or unsightly parts.
The doublestitched seamline at the base of the neck, it's not there on SR (just a simple junctional neck-shoulder seam without visible stitching, that's not SA but it's tweakable and it's not bad to see anyway), mny other are different from the movie as already said: hidden side of the sleeves = no double stitching, front armpit-shoulder junction = double stitched (but it shouldn't as correctly in my bep it's only on the upper inch), pockets angle = incorrect, it lacks the diagonal stitching and it's crossed (it shouldn't), cuff section too short (that's the only point I'm sure 100% nothing can be done to make it more SA not even a little), elbows detailed additional little seams are absent...these last aspects, are nothing to tear my hair out over for, anyway.
The waist doublestitched seamlines are correct, instead, on SR, as already pointed out by achilles (on my BEP, I twisted a bit the pattern at the bottom (making it curved on the side, and asymmetrical as it should be) when making the cut at the bottom, in order to find a square with my implemented double-breasted, adjusted size with the closure, as originally, it was evident that the seamlines were done as for a mono-breasted coat, so at the same level when it should be asymmetrical).
The buckle is attached with a piece of fabric that I can say is done better (mine is a bit a flaw there now, but it was weak even originally well before my several interventions.


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lining: SR is not SA, to me it is grey in color. But I like it much more, frankly more than the black satin diamond lining of the movie.
My original BEP was a bit weak, but SA (taffeta), WSL seems to be the top in terms of SA.
The quilting is very confortable without bulking the coat, the padding on the shoulder panel is absent, but I like it like that anyway, if I'll change the fur, I could even consider to get the chance and add a bit.

closure: this is the worst point for SR, it's completely useless. Few weak magnets (just two on the collar side upper corners to match the closure, and one at the base of the right side to keep it folded when open, no magnets at all along the edges except just the collar to be held folded), and the hook, I find it of very good material, but totally ineffective (and the position is wrong, definitely need to be moved), but for that I just had to bend it with pliers, now it holds well and does not open too easily, nothing that can be enough for me, it is obvious that here too I will implement a serious closure, with zip and everything that is needed without compromising anything visually.

In the end (as in couple pics attached), it's a great coat, far from my bep in terms of SA, but I can plan tweaking with no rush


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Love the final analysis of the various coat. Lord knows that you and Mechanismo made incredible efforts to show what could be done with the various models and the pros/cons of each, depending on time, budget and overall looks. Thanks for the tutos/ride; it's been great:cool::cool:(y)(y):love::love:
 
Love the final analysis of the various coat. Lord knows that you and Mechanismo made incredible efforts to show what could be done with the various models and the pros/cons of each, depending on time, budget and overall looks. Thanks for the tutos/ride; it's been great:cool::cool:(y)(y):love::love:
One day I'll probably get back here, considering that my SR will be definitely tweaked a little somehow.

However, since here spring seems hard to come this year, and beyond some little jobs and training indoor, I'm still finding harsh times to cliff dive around if a storm is always around the corner, so I've had time to spend a little more for the coat and it brought to this.

Really, now a bit of sun, look at that...I still cannot understand how I reached such a similar tone to SR, in the sunlight, the difference is so minimal, the bep is just even a bit clearer and colored (exactly what I was looking for)...if I try 1000 other times, I will fail 1000 times to reach the same result...some skills and commitment, yes, but luck too, and a lot I'd say.

I would have just liked to have it in duck canvas, but it is clear that you can't have everything, I think I even read somewhere that even in the coats made by production for the film, at a certain point the fur ran out, and they had to use a similar one, but not the same, so, I can just thank, and that's fine
 

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CountLau I am blown away with how good your waxed BEP looks next to the Soul Revolver in color and sheen/shine. It looks better IMO and I am partial to the SR. Also it really showcases how much better the shoulder padding on the BEP is. The work you have done on the BEP gives it a weathered look that I like too.

I am going to bet there is a SR screen accuracy build project in your future…. lol.
 
CountLau I am blown away with how good your waxed BEP looks next to the Soul Revolver in color and sheen/shine. It looks better IMO and I am partial to the SR. Also it really showcases how much better the shoulder padding on the BEP is. The work you have done on the BEP gives it a weathered look that I like too.

I am going to bet there is a SR screen accuracy build project in your future…. lol.
yes, the project is already there but, actually, in this season I should be busy with my daily life outside and I already know the time for other tailoring tweaking project, as an hobbyist who does this in my free time, will be very little (if not completely zero).
I was struggling to have a SR in the period when the price is a bit lower, and that's what I got.
I already know that I will keep both the coats in the end, alternating them.
My bep weights now 1/3 more than my SR (before double waxing it, it'd have been the opposite situation), cause all the waxing, lining improvement, magnets added and so on, I think the waxed cloth it's very tough and practical to last potentially for life, I already did waxing before but I'm not actually the expert here about it, I could simply say that my manic commitment to about every thing I try in my life, together with a solid dose of luck in this case, brought me to this, but the road was already prepared from a while, since the color I kept searching to obtain in the past months, was thought by me to be lighter enough to then come out something like this when waxed.
The scars are evident in some parts, but there's nothing that could make me consider the coat damaged to bring me not to wear it any more, on the contrary, the sturdiness of the waxed cloth, is matching well my dynamic way of living, I guess it's hard to scratch or tear now.

I don't think it's wise to give suggestion because my experiments ended in kinda random lucky result also, but for sure, if I'd be a novice in the argument but with the knowledge I have now, I would go for a coat (bep or wsl), then tweaking the color straight as I know it works best (pre-discoloration with rit in the washer or lite bleach bath in the tub well filled and without leaving it in crumpled tie-n-dye positions, and then 1/2 powders at 60°C washer cycles, the mix worked best was neutral grey 50% emerald green 15% skyblue 25% army green 5% brown 5%, total amount of powder twice the recommended dose for a single garment to be sure it holds (but for me it was needed because it's harder to grip omn a cotton-spandex mixed cloth, maybe on classic duck canvas 100% cotton like Jameel's uncoated or WSL, the standard dose would be enough).
Otter smells weird, not bad but you have to wait long before using the garment, I consider the effect of that fabric dressing the best for the first coating, the second lite works fine with barbour wax or greenland bars (as I've done, it helps also to dry the Otter a bit faster, it is a very dry wax and I don't even think that could work so well without the otter coating, not like the Barbour which can be used also alone).
But those are all risky maneuver, so...that's my vision, but it's up to anyone who wants to try, to possibly risking the coat.

I will get back on my SR after the next months when I'll be very busy, it would be impossible to dedicate the right time and focusing now
 
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actually, the project for SR to make it SA as better as possible, it was already one my very first projects on the topic (my first intention was for Magnoli, they've been very professional but in the end I put aside their coat because of too many point I was doubtful about -absolutely no need to blame them- but together with another very high price...).
I simply choose Bep because I didn't mean to get myself into the job at this level, the price was a bit lower, and the SA detail already there.

I don't regret none of my two purchases, but I also understood that something must be let undone/interpreted with a bit of personality/simply not completely SA (as also Adam Savage stated), so for sure it would impossible to tweak SR to be an exact copy of the movie coat (and just only for weave, it would be enough to understand why), however those twills, coated as they are (even if about my bep, it's me and wax to have done the final result), were the best solution to reach the effect I had in mind, honestly it would be impossible to say if I had chosen a uncoated duck from Jameel instead of twill laminate, if then the final result would've been this one, or a less pleasant another, I like Mechanismo WSL but I wanted a lighter brightness for my coat, it should be compared in person, but I think it's what I got in the end.

The only thing, again, that collar size (upper length is the most crucial point) must be improved making it longer/wider on bep, really. I mean, look at the pic I put the two collars one beside the other, it speaks for itself, and the size is the about the same (also, SR a bit tighter, almost to the limit, Bep laminate it's also easier to fit your body because of its slightly elastic fabric property, that's the reason why wax its the only way to coat it without the coating to crack, being the wax a really impregnating mean, acrylic coating I tried weren't stable, but on the xenomorph style bag I made patching old duck canvas pieces, it holds).
But despite the non-SA pattern that needs to be twisted (I believe it, but still not sure it's doable 100%), SR collar size in relation to the coat size, is simply perfect.

I wish good luck to anybody who wants to try such a journey into experiments in order to do something similar to what I did, or even better
 
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