After three episodes it time to call it quits. I really had hoped this would be a good show about the FX buissness. But this show is just bad.
MonsterMan Thoughts Feelings and Reviews (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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Vermithrax 4
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This show is complete garbage. Cleve and his daughter are a couple of freaks and their work totally sucks. He claims to have 35 years in the biz...yeah, right, the quality of the work sure doesn't show it. Low budget, D-list tripe to say the least.
Well, I watched last night with the sound down and some tunes playing, just looking up to see what they were building occasionally. That worked for a while until they showed that brutal ant prop. Next week, I think I'm gonna try watching it with both the sound down and video off. I think that may work.
Miker
Well-Known Member
Just adding to the overall sentiment here...I was so excited that I might learn from the show but there has hardly been any explanation or production detail.
Beyond that, the "monster man" is an employee of a low budget fx co, and I am so distracted by the overt creepy look and general malaise for work and people that even the few tidbits of info that sneak in are not exciting.
Forget the production schedule drama, yada yada...explain and teach!! Keep physical effects alive by being positive about them and teaching more folks how to do them.
I am sorely disappointed, but like others, psyched to see more face off coming very soon!
Mike
Beyond that, the "monster man" is an employee of a low budget fx co, and I am so distracted by the overt creepy look and general malaise for work and people that even the few tidbits of info that sneak in are not exciting.
Forget the production schedule drama, yada yada...explain and teach!! Keep physical effects alive by being positive about them and teaching more folks how to do them.
I am sorely disappointed, but like others, psyched to see more face off coming very soon!
Mike
Kerr Avon
Master Member
The teeth for their werewolf were comical. Like it was from a sabertooth tiger project or something.
ReplicaGod
New Member
I've only watched the last 2 episodes, and I hope it will be better but I doubt it. I think he is just making stuff for the crappy Syfy movies.
Gigatron
Sr Member
I started watching this show, to see if I could some stuff about casting, mold making or any new technique. All I've learned is that low-budget movies have no understanding of time constraints and have even less expectations for their creatures. I understand that these are all campy B-movies that even the MST3K crew wouldn't bother ripping on. But my god, learn how to say "I don't care holw long you've been doing this, that looks like crap".
I've tried looking up the movies, or at least the directors, that come on this show. The directors that you can find on IMDB have done nothing decent, in decades. Most of the movies they claim to be making don't show on IMDB, as either completed or in production.
This Cleve guy, his work is Party City halloween costume quality, at best. The guys from ToHo, 50 years ago, made better monsters. Can I do any better - not even a chance. But I'm not on TV, claiming to be a master monster maker, either. That wolf was embarassingly cartoony. The shark was ridiculous and I couldn't make heads or tails of that bio-mechanical bug. I hope that with the demon ant, at least, that the final product was over-sprayed with a self-skinning rubber, to hide the seams.
Here's to hoping it doesn't get a second season.
-Fred
I've tried looking up the movies, or at least the directors, that come on this show. The directors that you can find on IMDB have done nothing decent, in decades. Most of the movies they claim to be making don't show on IMDB, as either completed or in production.
This Cleve guy, his work is Party City halloween costume quality, at best. The guys from ToHo, 50 years ago, made better monsters. Can I do any better - not even a chance. But I'm not on TV, claiming to be a master monster maker, either. That wolf was embarassingly cartoony. The shark was ridiculous and I couldn't make heads or tails of that bio-mechanical bug. I hope that with the demon ant, at least, that the final product was over-sprayed with a self-skinning rubber, to hide the seams.
Here's to hoping it doesn't get a second season.
-Fred
I'm not even sure if they're up for that or not. And the few parts of any SyFy movies I've watched, mostly for a laugh or to make me feel better about my own eFx attempts, are extremely poor quality CGI. They may have some practical effects, but I can't say I've ever seen any.
Ozymandius
Sr Member
Wow, guess I'm in the minority. But as someone that's actually worked in B-movie FX, I can relate to it in a way that most people can't.
But I'll let you guys in on a little secret. This is actually how most of the entertainment industry does in fact run. Insane deadlines, idiot directors that expect miracles on shoestring budgets, overly eccentric and difficult coworkers, etc. That really is how most shows work.
Just keep in mind that the $100 million dollar movies with massive effects budgets and 8 month build times are the exception, not the rule. They of course get all the press and the biggest ticket sales, but for every one of them that gets made, there are 20 of these B movies that role out in the same time.
And as cheasy and bad as they are, they keep making them because they keep making money.
But I'll let you guys in on a little secret. This is actually how most of the entertainment industry does in fact run. Insane deadlines, idiot directors that expect miracles on shoestring budgets, overly eccentric and difficult coworkers, etc. That really is how most shows work.
Just keep in mind that the $100 million dollar movies with massive effects budgets and 8 month build times are the exception, not the rule. They of course get all the press and the biggest ticket sales, but for every one of them that gets made, there are 20 of these B movies that role out in the same time.
And as cheasy and bad as they are, they keep making them because they keep making money.
niennumb1
Master Member
I can't see how this show is going to create a great reputation for his company. So far he's missed deadlines while the crew is on set. Their empty promises are losing the people who are making the films money and time. I can't say I would trust their effects house to turn around something in the time I'd need it seeing how late they are.
Sure the demands and deadlines might be nuts, but I would never promise someone a costume or effect in a specific time if I was that backed up in other work to where I could tatter my reputation not being able to deliver on my promise.
Sure the demands and deadlines might be nuts, but I would never promise someone a costume or effect in a specific time if I was that backed up in other work to where I could tatter my reputation not being able to deliver on my promise.
What shocked me in this last episode (the parts I could stay awake during) They really keep 20+ years worth of plaster/silicone molds outdoors? Yet they look to be in perfect condition when being used. :rolleyes
Everything about this show seems fake. I have yet to see one GOOD prop
or project come out of that shop.
I don't think this show is goign to make another season but yet, who knows. Syfy has done dumber things.
I hope Dream Machines is better than this show.
Everything about this show seems fake. I have yet to see one GOOD prop
or project come out of that shop.
I don't think this show is goign to make another season but yet, who knows. Syfy has done dumber things.
I hope Dream Machines is better than this show.
Flagg
Sr Member
If you are just talking "effects" then go find the unrated version of the original Toxic Avenger. Some of the REAL gory death scenes were impressive FX shots. The guy being killed by the weight bench and the kid getting his head run over by the car come to mind right off.
Troma may be cheese,but it's damn fun cheese for the most part. :lol
Had the oppertunity to see 2 headed shark attack on netflix last night.
Obviously a dumb Asylum flick though the CGI of the shark wasn't to bad surprisingly.
I did notice that the neither Monster Man or the company he works for was NOT even listed in the credits.
Of course I wouldn't want my name attached to those effects either.
Obviously a dumb Asylum flick though the CGI of the shark wasn't to bad surprisingly.
I did notice that the neither Monster Man or the company he works for was NOT even listed in the credits.
Of course I wouldn't want my name attached to those effects either.
I got 30 minutes in and couldn't make it through the rest of the movie. Just horrible.
