Unlimited Run Blade Runner 2049 Officer K JACKET/COAT by Magnoli Clothiers

[Hall86]

The quote from the costume designer says the original prop coat is 'laminated cotton' rather than waxed.

Is there a huge difference between these two finishes?

I'm guessing you can re-wax a coat, but you can only laminate fabric before it's tailored (it has to be ironed while completely flat). But how different do they really look?

Laminate would also explain why the coat appears so dark and almost leather-like in the film.

 

[Indy Magnoli]

The problem is that there are different coats for when he wears it shut and opened. The open version of his coat has the extended collar flap stitched in place so it falls exactly how the costume designer wants it to. So, trying to make one coat that does everything that all the coats do in the film is probably impossible. But, we'll look at how the extended collar connects to the lapel again and see if there is a practical tweak that can be worked into the pattern.

 

[aeonpulse]

Thanks Mitch, great reference shot too. Also, with that reference shot you supplied, it looks like the distance between from the edge of the wrapping flap to where the wool starts should be thinner than it currently is on the prototype coat.

The problem is that there are different coats for when he wears it shut and opened. The open version of his coat has the extended collar flap stitched in place so it falls exactly how the costume designer wants it to. So, trying to make one coat that does everything that all the coats do in the film is probably impossible. But, we'll look at how the extended collar connects to the lapel again and see if there is a practical tweak that can be worked into the pattern.

Ya know, I was actually wondering about that, there possibly being two different coats. I was struggling to figure out how exactly they could design a coat with all that functionality, looking the way it does.

 

[benhs1898]

SOrry to bombard you, I know you’re busy. Did you recieve my emails about my order?

 

[Indy Magnoli]

SOrry to bombard you, I know you’re busy. Did you recieve my emails about my order?

Going through all my e-mails now. All should be replied to within a few hours.

 

[aeonpulse]

I wonder, if having the two sections perminantly stitched together wouldn’t be an option, what about something that could be fastened while wearing the collar down, and unfastened when wearing the collar up? I don’t really see a zipper being an idea solution, nor velcro. Maybe something involving a loop-and-button, or some kind of hook system? Maybe an additional magnetic strip? Just tossing ideas out.

 

[Mitch LaRue]

hmmm...

while I do understand that the BR 2049 movie production (like all movie productions) would have multiple versions of jackets/coats/pants (that serve whatever purpose is required in whatever scene), I don't think I'm understanding how having the long, drapey, wrap-around side of the collar attached TO the lapel-flap (all on K's Left Side) actually prevents it from doing it's 'collar UP muffler-thing'...

It's comes up short from being stitched together all the way out to the very edge... so wouldn't that allow it to still line-up correctly with the collar?

It seems to me that the Best way (the only way?) to get the left side of K's collar to do it recognizable 'squish' (when the collar-muffler is down and all laid out on either side) IS to have it attached to the lower lapel... isn't it?

Otherwise, won't the 'wrap' part of the collar just slide down behind the lapel and not buckle-up into that squish?

(hope all that makes sense)

 

[aeonpulse]

I think the problematic area is here. With the two flaps connected at the seam, it looks like getting it to lay flat when being worn up would be difficult. I’ve been trying to think of a design solution but I haven’t been able to come up with anything. I’m certainly no tailor!


I suppose a doable compromise would be to only stitch the two sections together halfway, instead of all the way down to the end.

 

[Mitch LaRue]

What i'm suggesting is this:
First of all, using aeonpulse's picture I've drawn a little red line to sort of give us 'x-ray vision' through one side of the collar to show where the other side reaches to...
Then I drew little X's to show where the stitching would connect the two ...

but the idea is that the them being stitched together wouldn't go past that point.

I'm convinced that this would give the jacket both features.



...but lemme know what you think

 

[Indy Magnoli]

I've' just gone through every picture I have and I can't find any evidence that four stitches (basically placed as Mitch has it above) aren't on every coat. So, we're going to add this detail to our pattern unless we find something to the contrary. Excellent photo-analysis work, guys!

 

[aeonpulse]

Awesome! Hooray teamwork!


EDIT: One more thing I’d like to mention. As I understand, the right side of the collar will already include magnets to sort of pin it in place, but what about the left side? In the majority of the photos I see, while the left side of is mostly a big fold-y mess, the actual collar section seems to remain pinned up along the neck. Would it be possible to include magnets on the left side as well, to help prevent the collar / wrapping flap from just kinda flattening out across the left shoulder?

 

[Mitch LaRue]

:thumbsup

Cool ... Glad that helped!

 

[Uridium]

Just stunning, sending you a message.

 

[aeonpulse]

just out of curiosity, has anyone considered or looked into attempting to laminate their coat? i've looked up a few DIY tutorials, but they all either involve smaller articles of clothing, or involve laminating the fabric before any sewing. i thought i remembered reading something about how the costume designer laminated the coat after it was constructed, but that could be wrong. just wondering how one might go about this.

 

[Hall86]

just out of curiosity, has anyone considered or looked into attempting to laminate their coat

Pretty sure you're right and it has to be done on the raw material. Far too fiddly to laminate a completed item. I've looked too.

 

[Mitch LaRue]

Indy, just to further help out those who are trying to work out the details of what they want color-wise, can I just get you to further Clarify something for everyone?

Those shots (above) of some of your other jackets in waxed cotton; the TOP one IS in BLACK as far as I understand…

But the one below it; IS that really a DARK BROWN jacket (like it says)?
Or is it maybe another color?

I’m of the thinking that the words “DARK BROWN” were meant for the short Trench Coat below it…


And -again- just to clarify…
please confirm that in the “Four-Square” picture, it’s

Top-Left: BROWN
Top-Right: DARK BROWN
Bottom-Left: DARK GREEN
Bottom-Right: BLACK

Correct?

 

[aeonpulse]

Indy, just to further help out those who are trying to work out the details of what they want color-wise, can I just get you to further Clarify something for everyone?

Those shots (above) of some of your other jackets in waxed cotton; the TOP one IS in BLACK as far as I understand…

But the one below it; IS that really a DARK BROWN jacket (like it says)?
Or is it maybe another color?

I’m of the thinking that the words “DARK BROWN” were meant for the short Trench Coat below it…


And -again- just to clarify…
please confirm that in the “Four-Square” picture, it’s

Top-Left: BROWN
Top-Right: DARK BROWN
Bottom-Left: DARK GREEN
Bottom-Right: BLACK

Correct?

I'm assuming this is a response to the photos that Indy posted over in the "Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!" costume thread. As far as I can tell both of the "dark brown" shots are indeed dark brown, they're just under different lighting.

Also, the green swatch has me a tad bit confused, as it doesn't look like the green in the earlier prototype shots. Had the green fabric shown in the prototype shots looked more like it does in the swatch, I likely would have opted for that option over the black. Are these shots of different fabric, or is it the same, just under different lighting?

 

[Mitch LaRue]

yeah, sorry aeonpulse; I meant to post my above question over in that Thread (too much jumpin' around, I guess)

I'm curious to find out more about the answers to these questions

 

[Indy Magnoli]

Also, the green swatch has me a tad bit confused, as it doesn't look like the green in the earlier prototype shots. Had the green fabric shown in the prototype shots looked more like it does in the swatch, I likely would have opted for that option over the black. Are these shots of different fabric, or is it the same, just under different lighting?

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Yes, they're the same... just different lighting.

 

[aeonpulse]

Yes, they're the same... just different lighting.

I figured as much, thanks for the clarification!