Best Cap shield replicas?

[egosheep]

Reposting something that I saved from an older post here:

I know this is an old thread... But i thought i would clear up some of the measurements. Wrote them down a long time ago when we had the genuine ones pass through my work as im a specialist packer by trade. These were for the first avenger movie. A couple of normal ones. Two plain silver ones and two battle damaged ones.

I recently also had the stunt rubber shield come in so got to check the measurements on that too. Thought id share with you guys.

The genuine metal shields are definitely alloy. It was 26". Approximately 3.5" in depth. Outer ring (red)was 3 1/4". Next one in (silver) was 2 3/4". Followed by the last ring (red) that was 2 3/4". The centre ring was 9".

The finish was not painted. It was obviously spun metal. It was definitely anodised. There was no mask lines. To me it had been dipped and fully anodised red.. Then the silver. Stripe lathed off. The centre was not 1 piece. The blue segments looked separate from the star. The blue pieces were also anodised. Then i guess they were all stuck into place.

Finally the inside had been painted a silver colour.

As for the rubber stunt shield.
Was 24". Again approx 3.5" deep. Outer stripe (red) was 2 3/4". Second one in (silver) was 2 1/2" and the inner red was 2 1/2". Centre circle was 9"

 

[dontfeedmyego]

Do we have any members here that own a Masterworks shield?
Watching the few unboxing videos on YouTube, you really notice the thickness of the edges. Almost all the replicas are way thinner, with the exception of the efx, King Arts and Beast Kingdom shields.

I'd like to propose that a potential definitive replica, which I will officially dub "The Ultimate Hero Shield" should definitely have the correct thickness. The key is first discovering how the original shield was manufactured so it can be reproduced exactky.

We actually know this- at least for the first avenger shield.
The entire star shape is machined down.
With a thinner star (like most replicas have) glued/ welded into the machined out space.

Hard to explain but maybe that makes sense to others?
I have pictures that show the edge of the thinner star etc. I’ll have to dig them out later.

 

[Drakonnen]

Do we have any members here that own a Masterworks shield?

I'd be impressed if so. I think they were like $4,500. And of all versions, they went with the scratched one which made no sense to me.

 

[Ron]

I'd be impressed if so. I think they were like $4,500. And of all versions, they went with the scratched one which made no sense to me.

Of all the possible variants: clean, weathered, battle damaged... Black Panther claw marks would be my last choice.

 

[GeneralFROSTY]

And the claw Mark's never existed on a physical shield, it was added digitally. Makes me think they did the claw Mark's so it could never be passed off as an original.
This is why it's so critical to make the only true Hero shield replica.
I've said this before, if the Masterworks edition was a normal version, I would of invested in one without question. The claw Mark's were that much of a deal killer for me and likey many other potential buyers as well considering the shield is still available to purchase!

 

[AgentOfShield]

I personally think 24" would be a good size for most people though, since 26" is getting a little big for anybody average to below average height proportion-wise?

 

[dontfeedmyego]

I personally think 24" would be a good size for most people though, since 26" is getting a little big for anybody average to below average height proportion-wise?

I vote 25’’
There’s literally 100 24’’ versions out there and they look a tad small to me

 

[AgentOfShield]

Another thing I'm curious about is how they're able to get such a clean edge without a seam line on the hero shield...

 

[AgentOfShield]

I vote 25’’
There’s literally 100 24’’ versions out there and they look a tad small to me

I mean if marvel/Russell Bobbit thought the 24" version was a good size for the Masterworks I'm inclined to lean towards that, since the Masterworks is what we're looking to in terms of reference pieces

 

[dontfeedmyego]

Here’s some close ups of the first avenger shield where you can see that the star is actually a separate piece to the shield that has been stuck into the machined out star section. (Not a raised section)

 

[AgentOfShield]

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Here’s some close ups of the first avenger shield where you can see that the star is actually a separate piece to the shield that has been stuck into the machined out star section. (Not a raised section)
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Yeah so counting the bracket & straps as one piece that could likely make the shield four pieces in total:

- Bracket
- Main body (red, silver rings)
- Blue disc plug with machined star-shaped recessed front
- Star

Plus some magic to make the edge seam look like the bracket and body are one piece

 

[AgentOfShield]

Do we have any members here that own a Masterworks shield?
Watching the few unboxing videos on YouTube, you really notice the thickness of the edges. Almost all the replicas are way thinner, with the exception of the efx, King Arts and Beast Kingdom shields.

I'd like to propose that a potential definitive replica, which I will officially dub "The Ultimate Hero Shield" should definitely have the correct thickness. The key is first discovering how the original shield was manufactured so it can be reproduced exactky.

We could maybe try to message any of the owners on youtube to see if

a) they're a member of the forum
b) if they could be so kind as to provide us with measurements and reference photos

If we do go this route let's have one member message them instead of spamming their inbox

 

[dontfeedmyego]

Looks to me that the masterworks is made the same way

You can see on that the right hand point of the star is slightly curved different to the shield. Also the star points don’t recess into the shield (which they would if it was just a machined outline)

 

[Ron]

After now having a flat diameter 26" shield, I realized it's a little too big for my body frame and I'm average height & weight (about 5'11 170lb). I always thought 24" looked small but now I think it might suit me fine. However for the sake of prop accuracy, I think we should stick to the 25" of the original FA shield if that's what we're going after.

Another thing I'm curious about is how they're able to get such a clean edge without a seam line on the hero shield...

I was wondering too. Welded and then ground down and polished? Or maybe bondo filled and painted in a metallic finish?

 

[AgentOfShield]

Also with the outermost ring if it does end up being a little wider than the inner rings it could be to compensate for the curvature of the shield. Idea being that the outer ring doesn't look smaller than the inner ones at first glance, adjusting for optical trickery

 

[AgentOfShield]

After now having a flat diameter 26" shield, I realized it's a little too big for my frame. I always thought 24" looked small but now I think it might suit me fine. However for the sake of prop accuracy, I think we should stick to the 25" of the original FA shield if that's what we're going after.


I was wondering too. Welded and then ground down and polished? Or maybe bondo filled and painted in a metallic finish?

I think we'll go back and forth on the diameter until the sun goes down haha but from TFA to Civil War (Masterworks) they must've found that they like 24" better as they did make other changes too, such as the buckles on the straps and even the strap orientation. The buckles that appear after TFA have less hard edges and look much more comfortable to hold compared to the TFA hero

 

[Ron]

Haha, 24 or 25, as long as it looks as good as that Masterworks TFA Hero shield

Edit: fixed it lol

 

[dontfeedmyego]

Haha, 24 or 25, as long as it looks as good as that Masterworks shield

Better can be achieved.
It looks like. To me the masterworks has a cast back. (like the king arts)
Not machined like the TFA shield-

Here’s a machined back- noticeably different

 

[AgentOfShield]

Better can be achieved.
It looks like. To me the masterworks has a cast back. (like the king arts)
Not machined like the TFA shield-
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Here’s a machined back- noticeably different
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I mentioned this a page or two back, the back of the masterworks is definitely cast from the same hero that the eFX shield is cast from (or rather, the same hero that the stunt was cast from and then that stunt was used by eFX?) based on that gap in the second ring

 

[dontfeedmyego]

I mentioned this a page or two back, the back of the masterworks is definitely cast from the same hero that the eFX shield is cast from, based on that gap in the second ring

Ohh. I didnt understand what you meant.
Man for 4K I’d be upset to not have a full metal replica