I enjoyed it a whole lot but think it overindulges itself with… itself. There are a lot of conversations that while fun the first time I think will slow it down on repeat viewings. Like an plot relevant scene will be paused or delayed to enjoy a side conversation only really in service to the audience.
Besides that pacing issue it’s pretty fantastic. Defiantly see it as soon as you can with a big crowd.
Unlike the previous “multiple villain” superhero films, I think this one didn’t have to worry about origin stories, or establishing the characters or their conflict with (their universe’s) Spider-Man. All that was baked into the cake ahead of time (assuming you saw the Raimi & Webb films), so this film could just cut to the chase.
Wake me up when there's a Spider-Man movie that actually has the character Lee and Ditko created in it, rather than mere nostalgia key-jangling, Marvel Humor (TM), familiar names slapped onto unrecognizable characters, and commercials for upcoming Disney products to consume.
Wake me up when there's a Spider-Man movie that actually has the character Lee and Ditko created in it, rather than mere nostalgia key-jangling, Marvel Humor (TM), familiar names slapped onto unrecognizable characters, and commercials for upcoming Disney products to consume.
Fantastic movie that promises a lot and delivers on everything. It has some surprisingly dark moments but the overarching themes of giving 2nd chances and helping others because its the right thing to do are handled well. I'd give this movie a 9/10
I was impressed with how good it felt as a whole. With everything going on- it felt like more of a Spiderman movie than I was anticipating from the previews.
Ok, so can we now talk about it without the usual “I’m whining because I came to a thread talking about the movie before I personally saw it and now you posted a spoiler” folks come on board?
I was impressed with how good it felt as a whole. With everything going on- it felt like more of a Spiderman movie than I was anticipating from the previews.
Quite frankly, i had the same feeling coming out of this as I did coming out of Avengers. With all the people they had in it, i find it amazing that you can be completely satisfied with every character and that each essentially completed the story they had. With what? 6 villains, 5 heroes, May, Happy...just shouldn't be able to work that much into a 2.5 hour movie and make it that damn good.
Just outstanding.
It truly is as if Marvel can do no wrong. I'm sure, others will disagree, but they've firmly established themselves in the camp of 'Marvel made it? i'll see that'. I think Tom Holland is a rare person who's entered that level for me as well. For me that list of people can be counted on one hand without using all the fingers.
The thing that amazed me, in a glorious way, is how it made me change the way I felt about TASM 1&2. It's a weird way of feeling, but other than the villain portrayals in 2, I wholeheartedly loved both films.
Then the 3rd one was scraped & that decided to reboot. I'm the type of person that records a series season on DVR, then binges. If either before or during my watching of the show, if it gets cancelled, then I'm done. Deleted & forgotten. That's how I felt about those 2 movies. I liked them so much, but felt like studio politics had denied me of a conclusion, if you will.
I can honestly say that today, I look forward to watching those films again, for the first time in years.
The thing that amazed me, in a glorious way, is how it made me change the way I felt about TASM 1&2. It's a weird way of feeling, but other than the villain portrayals in 2, I wholeheartedly loved both films.
Then the 3rd one was scraped & that decided to reboot. I'm the type of person that records a series season on DVR, then binges. If either before or during my watching of the show, if it gets cancelled, then I'm done. Deleted & forgotten. That's how I felt about those 2 movies. I liked them so much, but felt like studio politics had denied me of a conclusion, if you will.
I can honestly say that today, I look forward to watching those films again, for the first time in years.
Loved it when Electro told Garfield, “As cool as you you are, I thought you were black. I’m sure there’s a black one of y’all running around somewhere.”
My daughter pointed out that the villains all must have come from different dimensions as well, because some of them wouldn’t have known about the others death at the time, were they all from the same universe.
I thought it was amazing, best movie I’ve seen all year.
Actually felt choked upped a couple times
The goblin is my all time favorite villain out of spiderman so seeing him back.. more importantly hearing Dafoe’s laugh again.. gave me goosebumps
SPOILER WARNING
i too was wondering how venom knew of parker?!
Is it me, or did they change the whole “goofy” strange from the trailers?
The strange we saw in the trailers especially the part about casting the spell and Wong telling him not too, felt like a teenage “I’m doing what ever I want dad!” Dr strange
Where in the movie I believe that entire scene was changed and like it alot more
Really happy with this film, was totally worth it
And most importantly now this peter park is like the “real” spiderman.. no stark gadgets.. no stark suit.. he’s all on his own
I almost died.. when I heard about the rent line from the landlord.. I was hoping to see Mr Ditkovich… loved that character
Well, in a couple cases it was. Doc went bad because of the chip/arms, osbourn from the serum making him schizophrenic...so those can be cured. They also made a point of saying that whether they go bad or not on their return was up to them. They were getting second chance. Nothing said they couldn't resume their ways on their return - as long as they lived.
Loved it when Electro told Garfield, “As cool as you you are, I thought you were black. I’m sure there’s a black one of y’all running around somewhere.”
My daughter pointed out that the villains all must have come from different dimensions as well, because some of them wouldn’t have known about the others death at the time, were they all from the same universe.
I think that may have been implied with the costume changes, but I would be lying if I didn't say I was wondering about those details and how they all seemed know about one another at times. Especially when it came to Dr. Octopus and Norman Osborn. In the films, Norman was dead and gone before Octavius got funded by Harry, and only Harry knew he was the Green Goblin. Sandman mentions that it was over the news that reported but that doesn't make sense because then the events of the second film wouldn't have happened. I guess saying they're from other realities themselves is a quick and convenient way of glossing over anything that may be scrutinized.
So I caught this movie and rather kind of begrudgingly. Before I go further, I'll be the first to say that I'm not won over by the Marvel/Disney movies; I'm not. I lost interest after I saw Winter Soldier and saw early-on the beats in that would continue on to other films. I bowed out completely when I saw Ragnarok. At that point, I didn't care. Now even further down the line at this stage, I'm beyond burnt-out on this series---I am cold, gray ash.
I do care about Spider-Man however. Peter Parker is my favorite character out of all the superhero canon. Having said that, I feel nothing for the Tom Holland iterations. I still keep up with it even if I'm unhappy at myself with that fact. My problem with this version of Spider-Man/Peter Parker is that there isn't gravitas or weight to his being Spider-Man, and the movies reflect that I feel. I find much of the cast uncharismatic and nothing more than extensions of the McGuffin most of the time. He never really figures out his own problems, they typically get solved for him or brushed aside quickly, and he literally gets handed his solutions by way of his suit(s) and tech which make him impervious to anything and everything. That's just within his own films. So, I find them inherently lacking peril and, ultimately, without heart. He's a mascot in these movies, not a character.
I went into this movie with all of this and, sorry to sound like a grump, it didn't really change my mind on that part. It's all effervescent and I couldn't connect. I'm ashamed to say that, as someone who isn't typically nostalgic, my initial interest was won by the chance of seeing Tobey and Molina and Dafoe again in their respective parts, even if it was in their limited capacities. On that front, No Way Home delivered that joy on seeing them again for me. When Maguire showed up after Garfield--which got a small reactive cheer by some-- there was a reverent silence for him; it was as if a healthy Christopher Reeve showed up in the flesh as Superman again on an episode of Smallville or something. I wouldn't be sincere if I didn't say I was caught up in it, too. It was something really unique to experience.
It's fun, sure, and it goes by quick for a two and a half hour spectacle, but ultimately, I felt nothing and left feeling like I just ate a bag of Skittles when I was really wanting a meal. So, same old fare for Marvel/Disney for me. On a positive note, it did what it was supposed to do and further sold me on the next of their endeavor, Multiverse of Madness; I'm really interested to see what Sam Raimi is gonna do. I'm also even more excited to catch the next "Into the Spider-verse." In an equally dumb film, "Spider-verse" managed to do everything in one film that these live-action Spider-man films, post Raimi, haven't managed: made me care.
A couple other notes: something has to be said for Andrew Garfield. I've always thought he was a great actor and what little he does in this really shows that. It's a shame his Spider-Man films stink on ice. Also, Benedict Cumberbatch has a terrible wig for Dr. Strange and he still can't do an American accent.
Mine, too. I liked that the writers realized that he wasn't just another villain of circumstance. He is a "true" villain. Osborn likes having what the Goblin brings him and they leaned into it.
Let’s not even bring up the fact that the whole thing could have been avoided if a Skrull showed up as Peter while Spider-Man was swinging through the city.
