Spider-Man: No Way Home

[sbaxter]

We've been going through the previous Maquire/Garfield films to refresh my wife's memory of all the characters .... and I just couldn't help myself. As soon as ASM2 finished Saturday evening, I immediately bought and started the digital version of No Way Home, even though I had already ordered the 4K disc version (and will still buy that as well). I prefer physical media whenever possible for anything I really love, but I just couldn't wait any longer!

SSB

 

[NeoRutty]

Zendaya does that Adam Driver thing where she finds some weird way to read a line.... and just kills it.

Quickly becoming one of my fave actresses and just getting started.

 

[Strikerkc]

I saw it the other night, and thought it was amazing.
I even liked that poor Eddie came through and just spent 18 hours getting hammered in south America. LoL

 

[HeartBlade]

Zendaya does that Adam Driver thing where she finds some weird way to read a line.... and just kills it.

Quickly becoming one of my fave actresses and just getting started.

She is talented although I wonder who her agent is. That person is a god-send.

I dont know why but Zendaya seems to strike gold with many projects. Europria, Dune, Spiderman, Greatest Showman. Zendaya is slowly becoming an indicator that this is a film or show worth checking out lol.

 

[George]

The movie was finally released here for renting through Media Box and I watched it.
Strangely enough I merely cared for the last 30 minutes or so: seeing all these characters being helped with their personal struggles including Andrew catching Zendaya, the emotional goodbye in preparation for Strange's spell that would finally be casted correctly this time, the first conversation with MJ in the coffeeshop without her remembering him and then Peter moving into his new apartment, the new suit,a conclusion of a lot of past stuff and the beginning of a new chapter.Some way of promoting/reviewing a movie,huh? But that's how it felt.Can't wait to see what's next

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Watched it. Loved it. Almost put it back on immediately, but stopped myself to really savor it. Have watched it again a few times since then.

Though I didn't much like the earlier Spider-Man movies - liked the first Raimi one, but they quickly devolved from there - watching this made me want to own them and give them another chance. Would have liked to hear the themes from those Spider-Men in key moments during this movie to really bring it home that they are different to this version of Spider-Man - similar to how they play a specific character's theme in key parts in Avengers movies. They really need to do more of that.

Wonder if this results in them making more Toby and Andrew Spider-Man films? They are now part of the new canon, so their continued journey is possible. Or will that just make things more confusing?

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I love the switches in personality does and the completely different facial expressions when Dafoe does Goblin.

A friend ruined it a little when mentioning in reality, its just a guy walking toward his mirror doing crazy laughs and faces at himself. Its silly in reality but Dafoe made it work.

Well... in reality... it would probably look silly until you realize... there are two people in that person fighting for control. You would not want to be near such a person if one of them was a violent personality. That is the scary part.

 

[dascoyne]

Can we appreciate how prophetic the title was?

 

[Treadwell]

Something that puzzled me from a rewatch the other day:
Early in the film they show JJ doing his show with a very DIY setup, looking like a basement or garage or something. Later, he's in a full blown TV studio. What gives?

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Something that puzzled me from a rewatch the other day:
Early in the film they show JJ doing his show with a very DIY setup, looking like a basement or garage or something. Later, he's in a full blown TV studio. What gives?

I believe it's hinting that once Peter's identity was revealed, then JJ's little podcast suddenly became must-see to the public, since it seems to prove that Jameson was right about Spidey all along. When he's shown in the bigger studio, he's also hawking those vitamins, so I'm thinking the maker of those probably became his sponsors to turn his sudden popularity into their personal advertising platform.

 

[HeartBlade]

I believe it's hinting that once Peter's identity was revealed, then JJ's little podcast suddenly became must-see to the public, since it seems to prove that Jameson was right about Spidey all along. When he's shown in the bigger studio, he's also hawking those vitamins, so I'm thinking the maker of those probably became his sponsors to turn his sudden popularity into their personal advertising platform.

They were comparing JJ to Alex Jones which I dont appreciate to be honest.

JJ has been a kind of bad person and has done wrong things (was involved in creating scorpion) but he has been shown to be pretty good journalist. You dont just become head of the daily bugle by chance.

JJ does have an irrational hatred for Spiderman but every other “masked character” has been a villain. He properly retracted the false article on Spiderman in 3 and in the PS4 game, his analysis of Spiderman’s impact taking out Kingpin was true.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I the comics, wasn't JJ pro Spider-Man until Spider-Man saved his son, the astronout, as their shuttle was crashing to Earth from a failed re-entry? After that he became anti Spider-Man. Something about the hero image he had of his son was tarnished by someone outshining him... or something!?

 

[Treadwell]

I the comics, wasn't JJ pro Spider-Man until Spider-Man saved his son, the astronout, as their shuttle was crashing to Earth from a failed re-entry? After that he became anti Spider-Man. Something about the hero image he had of his son was tarnished by someone outshining him... or something!?

Not in the original continuity. I don't know about Ultimate.

 

[Cephus]

J. Jonah Jamison was an existing character before he turned anti-superhero and especially anti-Spider-Man. It was at the very beginning, where Spider-Man captured the very first criminal, that he went against him because he didn't like costumed vigilantes. J.J. accused Spider-Man of sabotaging the capsule that his son was crashing in as a publicity stunt. There have been occasions where J.J. realized that the reason he hates Spider-Man is because he's the self-sacrificing hero that J.J. wishes he could be

 

[Treadwell]

The very first thing JJ ever said in Marvel publishing history was "When I'm thru with this article, Spider-Man will be run out of town!"
ASM #1, p. 4

 

[Riceball]

I believe it's hinting that once Peter's identity was revealed, then JJ's little podcast suddenly became must-see to the public, since it seems to prove that Jameson was right about Spidey all along. When he's shown in the bigger studio, he's also hawking those vitamins, so I'm thinking the maker of those probably became his sponsors to turn his sudden popularity into their personal advertising platform.

I'm not sure that the vitamin manufacturers became his sponsor, or at least his main/sole sponsor but definitely a sponsor. But I took his upgrades as an indication of him becoming more successful and it moved from a podcast in his home studio to something that was picked up by somebody bigger and made into a professional broadcast. My impression was that by that point his podcast was longer a little fly-by-night side project and was now something that was either carried on the Bugle's website/channel or some other organization.

 

[Treadwell]

That makes sense, except for the fact that he was already a media veteran before Spidey came along, so wouldn't he have already been broadcasting professionally?

 

[Strikerkc]

I don't believe the JJ in the MCU verse is meant to be an analogue of the JJ in the comic universe. The MCU JJ may have never had the career in print media that the comic version did. I simply took it to be that "the JJ in the MCU was a podcast internet news shrieker" that are often light on actual news, and heavy on opinion rants (often choosing contrary opinions to express to get clicks), and are a dime a dozen. the joke is that he gets to break the spider-man identity story, and then gets to be come a high profile high production value "podcast internet news shrieker"; and keeps doing the same lame stuff.

 

[Cephus]

Print media was dying by the time the MCU came along so things have been recast to reflect a more modern take. Some of that is annoying but they don't have a choice because most of the modern viewing audience weren't around in the 60s and 70s when Spider-Man was being developed.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

I loved the movie, just wish Strange had not been in it. We went from Tony to Strange as mentors. I would have liked to see Peter make it out on his own.