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[Shahrooz]

One of the biggest issues with that, nobody knows what "laminated" actually means. We don't know what coating it had. So we can't so easily just get someone to do it. We would have to figure out our own version of what that means and then get someone to make it.

IT can't mean adding vinyl do it or else it would be cracking, I think. Not sure what Rene A. meant by laminated. Perhaps she meant 'acrylic' paint. Followed by actual fabric paint on top.
As for the buckram, we should know fairly soon hopefully as to whether acrylic cotton takes well to heat infused buckram. I am doing it to my SR.
We removed the second layer of fur and let's just say the coat looks a lot better. There are still a lot of issues that need to be addressed but it's on the way. will post pictures soon.
Also looking to painting my WSL cotton coat with acrylic paint. Looking into it. If Egon or anyone else has experience with that, please let me know.

 

[johncarbon1991]

Zlurpo , I can't vouch for screen accurate, but I own a couple coats from Musterbrand, from before they went out of business (not sure if you or anyone else is familiar with their products). Their Halo UNSC deck crew coat, as well as their Watch Dogs coats (they made 3 with varying degrees of game accuracy) all have a finish not too dissimilar from the Soul Revolver. It's not quite waxed, but seems to be some sort of sealed cotton fabric. Lightweight, water resistant, and overall practical. Honestly if you could even match the black fabric finish on the custom coat Jameel Ur made, but in the right shade of green, it'd be a major step in the right direction.

 

[Mechanismo]

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to touch on some things that caught my eye. Specifically, it's regarding the sleeve panel design/pattern. From what I can gather, the cuff portion is still something a lot of coat providers haven't gotten quite right so far. Given that Jameel/Zlurpo are going the extra mile to get the coat as SA as possible it's a good time to bring this up. Let's dive right in.

Cuff panel proportion and angle

The movie coat's cuff and forearm sections have a specific proportion and a slight angle along the cuff's top edge where they meet. Essentially, the cuff section should be longer than the forearm section. Bearing in mind that the coat dimensions and panel size will differ according to each wearer, proportionately it should nevertheless conform to the same design parameters. So:

Soul Revolver: X (forearm panel is proportionately longer than the film coat, cuff's top edge is horizonal)

Zlurpo: X (forearm panel is proportionately longer than the film coat, cuff's top edge is horizonal)

Magnoli: X (forearm panel is proportionately longer than the film coat)

WSL:

/ X (forearm and cuff sections similar to film's coat proportions)

Cuff edge curvature

The movie coat appears to have a distinct swoop along the edge of the cuff. This is a harder subject to tackle since the angle at which most pictures of the coat are taken, this isn't always obvious. Here are some photos of that curved pattern:

I've only seen one photo of Magnoli which appears to have this "cuff swoop" but then, surprisingly, it seems to narrow or taper, which doesn't appear to be the case with the movie coat (which is either un-tapered or even widens at he end of the cuff). Nevertheless, that swoop is still there, which is nice to see.

I can only speak for WSL which does not incorporate this aspect to its cuff. So with that said, if you Soul Revolver owners and @Jameel could elaborate on this and the above, that would be great to get a fuller picture.

 

[Jameel Ur]

Hahaha....
Dear Mechanismo, those are custom made coats, their sleeve sizes are different and can't make all of them in one size, hope you understand now.
Actually, you guys don't know about tailoring or clothing mechanism, so I can tell you about it, and would be totally waste of time.
I really appreciate if you guys share your coat images all together.

 

[Mechanismo]

Hahaha....
Dear Mechanismo, those are custom made coats, their sleeve sizes are different and can't make all of them in one size, hope you understand now.
Actually, you guys don't know about tailoring or clothing mechanism, so I can tell you about it, and would be totally waste of time.
I really appreciate if you guys share your coat images all together.

I'm not really sure why you find it funny...nor why you seem so defensive all of the sudden. It certainly wasn't meant as a swipe at you or your work. The process of improving this coat has been a long road of analysis and trial and error.

Having said that, there were a great deal of things that were inaccurate about your coat which I've been happy to address per Zlurpo's request, not the least of which providing a new collar design and dimensions... So, your condescending "you guys don't know about tailoring or clothes mechanism" is absurd and not very helpful. Even if we're not tailors, your coat has improved substantially because of us.

So, again, regarding the sleeve sections. They need improvement. No matter what the wear's size may be, the cuff section should -at the very least-be longer than the forearm and not vice versa. This is simply a matter of design. Take it or leave it.

 

[Jameel Ur]

what is your coat cuff size and sleeve length?

 

[Jameel Ur]

And I didn't fix the collar height recently, because I already done it a couple of years back.

 

[Jameel Ur]

As I requested twice, when I can see yours favorite ( modified) coat images here.

 

[Shahrooz]

Hahaha....
Dear Mechanismo, those are custom made coats, their sleeve sizes are different and can't make all of them in one size, hope you understand now.
Actually, you guys don't know about tailoring or clothing mechanism, so I can tell you about it, and would be totally waste of time.
I really appreciate if you guys share your coat images all together.

This is an inappropriate tone to take with one of our members in this forum. If you cannot maintain decorum, you need to leave the thread or you will be reported. The Zlurpo jacket was way off for a long time. The improvements that are taking place now are all as a direct result of our hard work, particularly Mechanismo who has tirelessly and selflessly assisted numerous members on this forum with no expectation of anything in return. Show some respect and manners, dude. Your coat is still way off. the color is wrong as is the material. Until you find a green laminated/acrylic cotton, you're still not SA regardless of how accurate your measurements are. We will share pictures of the Soul Revolver coat which is still far superior to yours when we are through with our modifications. At the moment, Mechanismo's modified WSL is the most SA coat out there while the SR has the most accurate material to date. The hope is that my SR (or any other SR that is modified per our instructions) will be the most SA once the extensive mods are done.

 

[Mechanismo]

Anyhoo... Since this is an area we really haven't covered yet, all you SR owners out there: it would be great if someone could post some side view pics (like the ones below) of the cuffs to discuss this distinct curvature.

 

[Malibu139]

My SR does swoop like that but it is not pronounced in the middle. It is a more even swoop from seam to seam without the pronounced high point . So I am gonna say it’s there but not quite screen accurate.

 

[Jameel Ur]

Anyhoo... Since this is an area we really haven't covered yet, all you SR owners out there: it would be great if someone could post some side view pics (like the ones below) of the cuffs to discuss this distinct curvature.

View attachment 1541527

Here is our coat cuff look.

 

[Jameel Ur]

This is an inappropriate tone to take with one of our members in this forum. If you cannot maintain decorum, you need to leave the thread or you will be reported. The Zlurpo jacket was way off for a long time. The improvements that are taking place now are all as a direct result of our hard work, particularly Mechanismo who has tirelessly and selflessly assisted numerous members on this forum with no expectation of anything in return. Show some respect and manners, dude. Your coat is still way off. the color is wrong as is the material. Until you find a green laminated/acrylic cotton, you're still not SA regardless of how accurate your measurements are. We will share pictures of the Soul Revolver coat which is still far superior to yours when we are through with our modifications. At the moment, Mechanismo's modified WSL is the most SA coat out there while the SR has the most accurate material to date. The hope is that my SR (or any other SR that is modified per our instructions) will be the most SA once the extensive mods are done.

That wasn't against any one member so don't take it seriously.
Funny things is for me, after researching almost 2 years, they came to know cuff was wider and forearm is smaller.
So, please research again on full coat with all aspect then publish it because might be possible there something explore more.
We are doing replicas, we didn't claim it's %100 movie coat, it's handmade item and we face human errors in every time.
As Zlrupo said 3 years back what options are available here, so we are doing within our limited options.
In case if we found laminated fabric so I'll announce about it or start new run for that.
I don't mind critics or any suggestions, I always say welcome.
I appreciate if you guys share your favorite (superior) coat images here, may be I can learn more.

Thanks

 

[Jameel Ur]

Please help me out.
Are those cuff looking same size?

 

[Mechanismo]

My SR does swoop like that but it is not pronounced in the middle. It is a more even swoop from seam to seam without the pronounced high point . So I am gonna say it’s there but not quite screen accurate.

Do you think you could post a quick side view pic of the SR cuff when you get a chance? Thanks!

 

[joberg]

First: careful about the "curve" of the sleeves. Take a simple shirt with French cuffs, put the cufflinks on and see how the sleeve "curves" on top of your wrist. The fabric of the coat doesn't "fall" normally like other type of fabric.

Second: some of the pics, showing the original costume are not properly placed on the right mannequin. Museum quality mannequins are a + while doing your research! Same shape/height of the actor, arm length, sweater on, etc.

Third: it's possible that the sleeve has a slight angle (not curve) from front to back sweep.

All of the pics are from the L.A. Museum of Motion Pictures - Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandise.

 

[Mechanismo]

Please help me out.
Are those cuff looking same size?View attachment 1541649

Here's another view of right hand cuff (of the coat on the right):

These are both photos of the film coat prop displays and I agree, they seem to have different cuff sizes with the coat on the right having a longer cuff (and most likely, a longer sleeve in general) . *This is interesting to note about the 15 production coats and how they weren't necessarily identical.

However, having said that, this also speaks to my point from yesterday: no matter what size the sleeve size may be, the coats show how the forearm section should be proportionately shorter than the cuff section. So this...

...instead of this:

 

[Jameel Ur]

My only point was about the identical coat, I don't know how many coats were there but I know there was more than one coat.
When I develop the coat, I hadn't these latest LA fashion museum images and we had only few good images and rest of film images.
In our could be tiny error but no blander.

 

[Mechanismo]

Regarding the cuff section, the pattern on the movie coat seems to suggest that the top and bottom edges run parallel, at an angle. However, Zlurpo's current coat and Soul Revolver appear run at an angle along the bottom edges but horizontal (or exactly perpendicular to the central sleeve seam) on the their top edges, rendering this section asymmetrical when they should be (more) symmetrical. WSL gets this pattern correct.

 

[Jameel Ur]

Dear Mechanismo again, you took wrong angel image as I saw our collar image somewhere in this thread.
Please don't messed up coat shape,

Your suggested cuff shape is wrong, please take look at reference.