Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[Sambulemme]

Hi everyone!!

Greetings from Italy, Sambulemme here.

I've been lurking on this forum for the past year until I could save up enough to purchase a SR, which I just received yesterday!

Fortunately, it fits me pretty good (I ordered an XS because I'm pretty slim):

Before my visit to my local tailor, I have some questions regarding closure options for this coat that I'd be immensely grateful if anyone here could help me with.

To my understanding, the coat shown in the movie is secured when closed by one hook-eye (the one SR included is totally useless since it's not even shaped like a hook and just slides in) and some magnets (which SR lacks completely).

Here are my questions:

1. Are magnets a good option for everyday use of this coat?
   
   I'm planning to buy the strongest neodymium ones I can find, but I'm still curious to hear how securely they can keep it closed (f.e. while running). I've never had experience with magnets in any clothing, but I assume any as weak as the ones SR used in the collar will cause the coat to randomly open from time to time (a deal breaker for me).
   
   
   
2. How many magnets are needed?
   
   I was planning to have the tailor stitch at least 2 in the left lapel + 2 on the opposite side (evidenced by the silver tape):
   
   
   
   
   
3. P.S. I will also add another magnet in the lower corner of the left collar end to minimize its appearance when left out + secure it better when closed:
   
   

I'm willing to sacrifice SA for practicality for everyday use, which is the core reason why I bought this coat.
I plan to remove the useless hook-eye SR provided and replace it with a functioning one/snap button.

I'll be forever grateful if any of the owners of this coat can share light on the practicality of magnets for everyday use.

Happy to be part of this community and I wish you all an awesome day!

 

[achilles]

To my understanding, the coat shown in the movie is secured when closed by one hook-eye (the one SR included is totally useless since it's not even shaped like a hook and just slides in) and some magnets (which SR lacks completely).

Hey Sambulemme, the coat looks good on you. You are right, of course, that the hook and eye closure is pretty much useless. To replace it with a snap button or with just simply a better hook and eye is the first and most practical alteration one should plan. I have planned that, too. But since the autumn and winter temperatures are not that cold where I live, I can wear it with the front open 90% of the time.

As for the magnets, they do seem to work for everyday use. Running may be a bit much, though. I am sure other members can test that with their altered coats.

Good day everybody!

 

[Sambulemme]

Hey Sambulemme, the coat looks good on you. You are right, of course, that the hook and eye closure is pretty much useless. To replace it with a snap button or with just simply a better hook and eye is the first and most practical alteration one should plan. I have planned that, too. But since the autumn and winter temperatures are not that cold where I live, I can wear it with the front open 90% of the time.

As for the magnets, they do seem to work for everyday use. Running may be a bit much, though. I am sure other members can test that with their altered coats.

Good day everybody!

Thank you so much for the warm welcome and for replying so fast!
Yes, I have an appointment scheduled with my tailor today and that hook is the first thing I will mention to him.

How many magnets do you think are necessary?
I'm afraid that 2 sets won't be enough to secure the lapel, from the photos I saw here it's usually around 3/4 sets starting from the hook&eye + another 2 below it sometimes.

 

[achilles]

Sambulemme My coat is not yet altered. Finding a good tailor took some time and possible alterations will have to wait until spring. But the tailor I found comes highly recommended (he is Italian, of course).

In the pictures above I drew in the magnets for the front closure. The lower four can be seen for sure on the first picture, the others are extrapolated. Second picture shows where they are with the coat closed. So that makes eight pairs in total with only one pair below the hook-eye / waistline of the coat. I think that without a functioning hook and eye closure the magnets would become undone if you move around too much. Others who have the magnets already on their coats may chime in…

 

[Sambulemme]

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Sambulemme My coat is not yet altered. Finding a good tailor took some time and possible alterations will have to wait until spring. But the tailor I found comes highly recommended (he is Italian, of course).

In the pictures above I drew in the magnets for the front closure. The lower four can be seen for sure on the first picture, the others are extrapolated. Second picture shows where they are with the coat closed. So that makes eight pairs in total with only one pair below the hook-eye / waistline of the coat. I think that without a functioning hook and eye closure the magnets would become undone if you move around too much. Others who have the magnets already on their coats may chime in…

Those pictures you drew made everything super clear to me, thank you very much!


My x40 pcs magnets (20x10x2mm) will arrive this Friday, but I'm going to test their durability before deciding to use them.
From what I've researched, neodymium magnets such as the ones used for this coat are quite brittle inside and have a high risk of snapping when they connect too harshly.

The coat's fabric covering both ends should provide some protection during the snap, but if they break replacing them is going to be a real pain.


I'm still considering 3 snap buttons as a last resort if the magnets prove to be too fiddly.

Curious to hear some feedback from other altered coat owners as well

 

[Mechanismo]

Hi everyone!!

Greetings from Italy, Sambulemme here.

I've been lurking on this forum for the past year until I could save up enough to purchase a SR, which I just received yesterday!

Fortunately, it fits me pretty good (I ordered an XS because I'm pretty slim):
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Before my visit to my local tailor, I have some questions regarding closure options for this coat that I'd be immensely grateful if anyone here could help me with.

To my understanding, the coat shown in the movie is secured when closed by one hook-eye (the one SR included is totally useless since it's not even shaped like a hook and just slides in) and some magnets (which SR lacks completely).

Here are my questions:

1. Are magnets a good option for everyday use of this coat?
   
   I'm planning to buy the strongest neodymium ones I can find, but I'm still curious to hear how securely they can keep it closed (f.e. while running). I've never had experience with magnets in any clothing, but I assume any as weak as the ones SR used in the collar will cause the coat to randomly open from time to time (a deal breaker for me).
   
   
   
2. How many magnets are needed?
   
   I was planning to have the tailor stitch at least 2 in the left lapel + 2 on the opposite side (evidenced by the silver tape):View attachment 1651610View attachment 1651611
   
   
3. P.S. I will also add another magnet in the lower corner of the left collar end to minimize its appearance when left out + secure it better when closed:
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I'm willing to sacrifice SA for practicality for everyday use, which is the core reason why I bought this coat.
I plan to remove the useless hook-eye SR provided and replace it with a functioning one/snap button.

I'll be forever grateful if any of the owners of this coat can share light on the practicality of magnets for everyday use.

Happy to be part of this community and I wish you all an awesome day!

Hey Sambulemme, welcome to the forum!
After achilles' great insight and awesome visual references, just some quick thoughts:

In my experience, despite its small size, the hook-and-eye is nevertheless a pretty important feature on the coat. When latching both ends together, the magnets above and below it immediately line up snap into place. Also, if you lean over or bend forwards, the magnets can sometimes disengage, so the hook-and-eye essentially prevents the coat from flying open by keeping the magnets connected/lined up.

 

[Malibu139]

From what I've researched, neodymium magnets such as the ones used for this coat are quite brittle inside and have a high risk of snapping when they connect too harshly.

RE The durability of the neodymium magnets. From my experience the issue is when they are free to attach to each other while openly handling them. They attract really hard and fast and tend to be brittle when engaged in this open manner. If you are careful and keep them apart before being installed , there really should be no issue on the coat. The weight of the coat and the fabric covering the magnet will hinder the violent type of attraction that tends to damage them.

Also from Mechanismo photo, 8 pair look to be spot on for the coat closure , more if you are needing the ones to hold the collar

 

[Sambulemme]

Hey Sambulemme, welcome to the forum!
After achilles' great insight and awesome visual references, just some quick thoughts:

In my experience, despite its small size, the hook-and-eye is nevertheless a pretty important feature on the coat. When latching both ends together, the magnets above and below it immediately line up snap into place. Also, if you lean over or bend forwards, the magnets can sometimes disengage, so the hook-and-eye essentially prevents the coat from flying open by keeping the magnets connected/lined up.

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Hey Mechanismo, thank you sending those photos!

Yes, I showed the coat to my tailor today and he also recommended to keep the hook-and-eye, although he will replace it with one that actually works.

Thank you for your insight on the magnets.
I guess 2 sets aren't enough for a secure closure. He put the only set I had with me by un-sewing the pocket pouches and, while strong, I'll definitely add more

 

[Sambulemme]

RE The durability of the neodymium magnets. From my experience the issue is when they are free to attach to each other while openly handling them. They attract really hard and fast and tend to be brittle when engaged in this open manner. If you are careful and keep them apart before being installed , there really should be no issue on the coat. The weight of the coat and the fabric covering the magnet will hinder the violent type of attraction that tends to damage them.

I see, then at least one of my worries is gone!

 

[Niteowl2022]

Hi everyone!!

Greetings from Italy, Sambulemme here.

I've been lurking on this forum for the past year until I could save up enough to purchase a SR, which I just received yesterday!

Fortunately, it fits me pretty good (I ordered an XS because I'm pretty slim):
View attachment 1651609

Before my visit to my local tailor, I have some questions regarding closure options for this coat that I'd be immensely grateful if anyone here could help me with.

To my understanding, the coat shown in the movie is secured when closed by one hook-eye (the one SR included is totally useless since it's not even shaped like a hook and just slides in) and some magnets (which SR lacks completely).

Here are my questions:

1. Are magnets a good option for everyday use of this coat?
   
   I'm planning to buy the strongest neodymium ones I can find, but I'm still curious to hear how securely they can keep it closed (f.e. while running). I've never had experience with magnets in any clothing, but I assume any as weak as the ones SR used in the collar will cause the coat to randomly open from time to time (a deal breaker for me).
   
   
   
2. How many magnets are needed?
   
   I was planning to have the tailor stitch at least 2 in the left lapel + 2 on the opposite side (evidenced by the silver tape):View attachment 1651610View attachment 1651611
   
   
3. P.S. I will also add another magnet in the lower corner of the left collar end to minimize its appearance when left out + secure it better when closed:
   View attachment 1651612

I'm willing to sacrifice SA for practicality for everyday use, which is the core reason why I bought this coat.
I plan to remove the useless hook-eye SR provided and replace it with a functioning one/snap button.

I'll be forever grateful if any of the owners of this coat can share light on the practicality of magnets for everyday use.

Happy to be part of this community and I wish you all an awesome day!

Hey man, your new duster looks cool

Regarding fasteners for it, well, I have a different one (a leather one, will post pictures eventually)
Nevertheless I also wasn't quite happy with the fasteners on it. It came with magnets, but basically so weak as to be completely useless. That wasn't an issue at the front because the duster also has snap fasteners that aren't really visible, but it made turning up the lapel and fastening it, as we should be able to do, wasn't possible.
So I talked to a local tailor. My options were a little more limited than yours, because leather is not as easy to work with and of course the coat already had magnets installed (useless but still a hindrance)
In the end, following the tailor's recommendation I actually had some velcro fasteners installed. They are not visible but they are really good, strong and reliable. It's an option you might want to look at.
Hmm, now I feel like some cosplay. Will soon post a pic of my current outfit.

 

[Niteowl2022]

Took some pictures, but the lighting is not very good. I will have to take more shots later. Anyways, here's my leather duster in a few different configurations.

 

[joberg]

Yes, the Velcro might be a good plan B; less expensive, same results TFS with us Niteowl2022

 

[TTSBot]

Hi all!

I'm absolutely baffled that I hadn't found this forum sooner. I started looking for a replica of K's jacket about a year ago after my second viewing of the movie. I, like many others, had come to the conclusion that the SR jacket was the best option in terms of accuracy while also offering the best practical quality.

I'm super inspired by the all the hard, steady work that seems to have been churning in this forum over the passed few years, and after spending the day reading through a slew of posts I'm also inspired to have alterations done to my jacket. My jacket should be coming within the next month or so, it was ordered for me as a Christmas gift and I've gotten my measurements in to SR as of early last week, so hopefully they've started on my order.

Obviously, what seems to be universally agreed on is that any jacket people pick up will need more magnets - that's a 100% for me at this moment. Until I found this forum I hadn't really given too much thought to the shearling. Frankly, I think I'll keep the SR shearling - I'm not really willing to give up the genuine shearling for faux for the sake of SA (of course I would be willing to reconsider in the event someone manages to source a high quality, accurate genuine sherpa) so those are a few things I know for sure after reading.

What I'm really curious and on the fence about, however, is the collar. I know SR advertises that they spent a long time trying to source the right cotton, and I know they put their cotton through a weathering process and waxing so I wanted to know how I might go about getting a custom collar done because if I'm going to do it I want it to stand up to the quality that, from what I understand from other SR owners here, SR manages to live up to.

With all that being said, I also wonder about the cost of it all. I already know the SR costs a pretty penny to say the least, but can anyone, ideally Mr. Mechanismo, speak to how much they've spent on all the alterations to push it just that much further in accuracy?

Thanks!

 

[Malibu139]

Hi all!

I'm absolutely baffled that I hadn't found this forum sooner. I started looking for a replica of K's jacket about a year ago after my second viewing of the movie. I, like many others, had come to the conclusion that the SR jacket was the best option in terms of accuracy while also offering the best practical quality.

I'm super inspired by the all the hard, steady work that seems to have been churning in this forum over the passed few years, and after spending the day reading through a slew of posts I'm also inspired to have alterations done to my jacket. My jacket should be coming within the next month or so, it was ordered for me as a Christmas gift and I've gotten my measurements in to SR as of early last week, so hopefully they've started on my order.

Obviously, what seems to be universally agreed on is that any jacket people pick up will need more magnets - that's a 100% for me at this moment. Until I found this forum I hadn't really given too much thought to the shearling. Frankly, I think I'll keep the SR shearling - I'm not really willing to give up the genuine shearling for faux for the sake of SA (of course I would be willing to reconsider in the event someone manages to source a high quality, accurate genuine sherpa) so those are a few things I know for sure after reading.

What I'm really curious and on the fence about, however, is the collar. I know SR advertises that they spent a long time trying to source the right cotton, and I know they put their cotton through a weathering process and waxing so I wanted to know how I might go about getting a custom collar done because if I'm going to do it I want it to stand up to the quality that, from what I understand from other SR owners here, SR manages to live up to.

With all that being said, I also wonder about the cost of it all. I already know the SR costs a pretty penny to say the least, but can anyone, ideally Mr. Mechanismo, speak to how much they've spent on all the alterations to push it just that much further in accuracy?

Thanks!

Alteration costs can get expensive, in the hundreds of dollars.

The collar alteration you are talking about just shifts the collar you have so the right side is farther back toward tour cheek/ ear. You should not have to worry about sourcing material or making a new collar. It’s been done on a couple SR coats on this thread.

Mechanismo can definitely walk you through the collar shift and probably more perspective on overall cost as well as magnet placement.

 

[achilles]

Obviously, what seems to be universally agreed on is that any jacket people pick up will need more magnets - that's a 100% for me at this moment. Until I found this forum I hadn't really given too much thought to the shearling. Frankly, I think I'll keep the SR shearling - I'm not really willing to give up the genuine shearling for faux for the sake of SA (of course I would be willing to reconsider in the event someone manages to source a high quality, accurate genuine sherpa) so those are a few things I know for sure after reading.

Same here. The real sheepskin will not be ripped out to replace it with something cheap that deteriorates over the course of one or two seasons. On my SR the shearling still looks like new. Of course, I understand the forum members who want the screen accuracy for their cosplay now. But practicality prevails for me in this case.

As for the shifting of the collar, it comes with its own set of problems in regards to screen accuracy on the current SR coats. If the increase of lapel size does not bother you and the SA collar position on the right side is the defining feature of the coat than Mechanismo has put in a lot of work to show members how it is done.

 

[Mechanismo]

Hi all!

I'm absolutely baffled that I hadn't found this forum sooner. I started looking for a replica of K's jacket about a year ago after my second viewing of the movie. I, like many others, had come to the conclusion that the SR jacket was the best option in terms of accuracy while also offering the best practical quality.

I'm super inspired by the all the hard, steady work that seems to have been churning in this forum over the passed few years, and after spending the day reading through a slew of posts I'm also inspired to have alterations done to my jacket. My jacket should be coming within the next month or so, it was ordered for me as a Christmas gift and I've gotten my measurements in to SR as of early last week, so hopefully they've started on my order.

Obviously, what seems to be universally agreed on is that any jacket people pick up will need more magnets - that's a 100% for me at this moment. Until I found this forum I hadn't really given too much thought to the shearling. Frankly, I think I'll keep the SR shearling - I'm not really willing to give up the genuine shearling for faux for the sake of SA (of course I would be willing to reconsider in the event someone manages to source a high quality, accurate genuine sherpa) so those are a few things I know for sure after reading.

What I'm really curious and on the fence about, however, is the collar. I know SR advertises that they spent a long time trying to source the right cotton, and I know they put their cotton through a weathering process and waxing so I wanted to know how I might go about getting a custom collar done because if I'm going to do it I want it to stand up to the quality that, from what I understand from other SR owners here, SR manages to live up to.

With all that being said, I also wonder about the cost of it all. I already know the SR costs a pretty penny to say the least, but can anyone, ideally Mr. Mechanismo, speak to how much they've spent on all the alterations to push it just that much further in accuracy?

Thanks!

Hello and welcome to the discussion!

So, jumping right in... To sum it up, despite Soul Revolver’s superb material, quality and craftsmanship, the coat still has three significant pattern/design issues IMO: A.) collar (incorrect design), B.) collar placement and, to a lesser extent, C.) lapel placement/design. Things like the shearling, magnets, piping are another story...

So out of these three, the only thing that can be (relatively) easily altered post-sale with a local tailor is shifting the collar. As Malibu139 states, on the short side, the movie coat’s collar is placed further back, flush against the neck. SR’s collar’s, however, overextends downwards (which also causes issues with the lapels). The movie collar's design and placement is one its coolest and most original aspects to the coat, IMO.

Now, as achilles rightly mentions, shifting the collar lays bare some other issues. Firstly, it makes the lapel on the left side (as you’re viewing the coat from the front) open slightly wider than it should (but again, by getting the collar placement wrong, SR’s coat should also place the lapels starting further up, near the collar bone). Lastly, the shifted collar spills over about an inch and a half on or so the long side, (although this issue is hardly noticeable because it's tucked behind the lapel most of the time and there is even some evidence to suggest this is also present on some iterations of the movie coat itself).

Here are two pictures of Shahrooz’s and johncarbon1991 shifted SR collar (they also did other nice things like replacing the shearling as well as adding piping and structure to the shoulder panels).

So, it’s a matter of putting this all on the balance… Personally, if you’ve got a decent local tailor that won’t charge you and arm and a leg, I think it’s worth it. It also makes your SR more unique.

Now, creating a custom collar with the correct (tapered) collar design and dimensions is another ball of wax entirely. That would entail asking SR to send you some extra fabric (which they do not do, I’m told) and get a tailor to actually construct the collar for you per the pattern-specs I came up for mine and asked WSL to make for me back in the day. (Fortunately, WSL coat’s lapel design is pretty bang on and shifting the collar or putting a new one on did not affect other aspects of the coat). This would take some doing.

On a personal note, I’m actually jonesing to take the plunge and purchase on a Soul Revolver. But honestly, I'm holding back until they address these issues. Design-wise, it’s mainly a matter of tweaking but it would make all the difference.

Having touched base with Lyrion a while ago, he told me they were indeed pressing on with a 2.0 Officer K coat but, sadly, it hasn’t materialized to date. It may be a matter of their sales performing well with their current design and boiling down to the age old, “if it ain’t broke…”. I get that. But it’s a shame, really. I think I'm not alone in rooting for them to go the extra mile because, in the long run, I think it would be win-win for everyone.

Anyway, I've attached a PDF guide for the collar shift. Let us know how you get on!

 

[drizztd0urden]

I wish SR would implement these things already, seems there's been plenty of talk about it and they even seemed to agree. I've been a click away from ordering it from them just waiting for these changes... and waiting, and waiting.

 

[sonofather]

I've been following this thread a while now and finally decided to create an account
I recently got the SR blade runner coat and wondered if anyone has tried to age and distress the jacket by themselves and how to do it? Not making holes and tears or anyhing like that, only making the colouring more faded/muddy on the elbows and shoulders etc.

 

[achilles]

I've been following this thread a while now and finally decided to create an account
I recently got the SR blade runner coat and wondered if anyone has tried to age and distress the jacket by themselves and how to do it? Not making holes and tears or anyhing like that, only making the colouring more faded/muddy on the elbows and shoulders etc.

Welcome! I am not really into aging and distressing for cosplay, as I have bought the coat for daily wear. But thinking about your question, the lamination is maybe a challenge in that regard. It creates a barrier between the cotton and whatever you want to apply to create a fading effect. To remove the lamination is a bit drastic.

The coat is supposed to be laminated material in-universe, so the distressing of the lamination (fuller‘s earth?) is sort of screen accurate. SR has already pre-aged the cotton before lamination BTW.

 

[Malibu139]

Agree with achilles , fullers as a topical has been done a couple times in this thread but not to a SR as I recall.

I have the SR short version blade runner jacket and it has worn at the elbows nicely after a couple winters