Y-Wing Building

[DeanB]

Great! Glad you found it. That little part that looks like a valve cover or something similar nestled with the Harrow part looks like a part in one of the Bandai 1/48 armor kits. Somebody confirm or deny if you those kits. I'm away for several days so won't be able to search through mine for a little while.

Dean

 

[boatbuilder1]

heres one I can finally confirm guys the part in questions is the valve cover inamongst the harrow piston housing right if so it is definatly a valve cover from a 1/48 bandai tanks one of many
the panther or tiger or jadgtiger or jagdpanther or hetzer blah blah blah
thanks for the fun here guys

ca

 

[Flintlock]

First, take a look at this picture:

http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Bandai/bandai%201-48%20panther/parts5.jpg

This is a parts tree from a Bandai 1/48 Panther. (Thanks to The Millennium Falcon Builders Club for the site - http://www.studioscale.com/kit_photos.htm, and thanks to Jay Pennington for the panther photos.)

Now look at the two pictures below:


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The only thing is that the panther part doesn't look to be the exact part that is in the Y-Wing photo here. Very close though.

 

[boatbuilder1]

the last two pics did not load
and exactly how does it not match I am stumped here ?
are you taking into accoun the models are 20 + years old and have layers or pinat and DUST on them
sorry I just don't see the differance all the valve covers from each of the kits I mentions are excatly the same

ca

 

[Flintlock]

Well, Boatbuilder... The valve covers are on the parts tree that you can see from the link above. However, the parts I am refering to are not the valve covers. I can see how this would be confusing if the pictures did not show up! Here, try these links:

http://www.geocities.com/r_e_flint/Image2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/r_e_flint/Image1.jpg

The way they are different is that on the panther part, there appears to be a little cut-out section of the box with the "X" on it. The part on the Y-Wing does not appear to have the same cut-out. Take a look and tell me what you think.

*EDIT* - I have misproperly labeled the image named "Image1". It appears to say "Tamiya Hurricane" when in fact it should say "Airfix Hurricane". My apologies.

 

[Treadwell]

The links don't work, either, alas.

 

[Flintlock]

Well, I am at a loss as to why they don't work. They work for me. What does it do when you click on them? Oh well, I will e-mail both pics to Dean, Boatbuilder and Treadwell.

 

[Boba Flint]

Cut and past the link. Then you'll see the pictures.

 

[star-art]

As long as the overall size is correct, with something like that I would call it "close enough" and throw some filler in there. Come one guys, you do want to get this thing built, now don't you?

 

[boatbuilder1]

it says this page unavailable

 

[DARKSIDE72]

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As long as the overall size is correct, with something like that I would call it "close enough" and throw some filler in there. Come one guys, you do want to get this thing built, now don't you?

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And the size is correct and determined by what?

 

[Flintlock]

Nothing as of yet... except that I have never seen any other Panther kit with any part like that in it... I know Tamiya kits don't usually include parts like that. And just eyballing it, it seems like it would be about right. I know it's thin, but that is all I am going on here.

Treadwell, you have the kit, don't you? Can you confirm that it is close to the right size?

 

[Treadwell]

1/48 verfied!

I scanned the Panther part, my R2 strip, and the Harrier engine part seen on the Y's underside in the pic--all three parts in one scan so they'd be to scale:

Then I scaled the resulting pic so that the Panther part was the same size as the one in the source pic. I wanted to see if the other parts would match their counterparts as well after this rescaling.

Here's the source pic:

...and here it is with my scaled scans overlaid, semi-transparent:

The Harrier part is problematic because of the angle and the fact that it's farther away from the camera. So that data gets thrown out.

But the R2 strip matches perfectly.

So I believe 1/48 is the correct scale for this part.

HOWEVER: I don't think for a second that the ILMers would've filled in that corner cutout on the "X" detail. Absolutely no reason to. So IMO the Bandai 1/48 Panther is NOT the 100% accurate part. The current kit, anyway--I don't know if it's been retooled over the years.

But I take star-art's point. I'll probably use this part if the correct one doesn't surface.


Backing up a bit to the Harrow part with the proposed 1/48 Bandai valve cover: I scanned a valve cover from the Panther alongside the Harrow part for some more Photoshopping. Here's the result:

The cut-in angles seem sharper in the source pic, although that could be the lighting. Plus, one could argue the Panther part is a tiny bit too long, even with the portion on the right removed as I have done to match the pic. Damn close, though. Might be worth a look at another 1/48 Bandai tank.

 

[DARKSIDE72]

Aside from the "X" box detail difference, you have failed to notice that the two horizontal details forward from that are different in size and spacing compared to the bandai kit.

 

[Treadwell]

Well, I figured they were mushy from casting and coats of paint. But I'm not saying it's that part anyway.

 

[boatbuilder1]

I don't know wheather you guys are thinking about how old these things are so take in to account that they are now quite brittle and breakable from hanlding
also during filming parts get knocked off and stepped on take that into account also when looking at parts now
no offense intended I am just trying to theorize what and how the parts have survied to this day
ca

 

[DARKSIDE72]

Your trying hard man, here's a clue... I can't explain the "X" box detail, my only guess is that since the main body of the Y was cast and some of the details were cast in with it, the "X" was filled square, to make it easier to cast. The correct kit IS a bandai kit, but vintage, the correct valve covers are with it also. And it isn't a panther G.

Now stop worrying about parts that are already known and find the parts which are not known....

Maybe IF there is interest I can post a link to a page where the "unknown" parts reside. Find those and I am sure that if the parts are positively identified compensation in the form of unknown kits to "YOU" can be forwarded, kit for a kit sort of thing. Thoughts???

 

[emojo5]

I'm up for that deal. Where do I sign? Drop me a line if you'd like, Jamie.

-emojo5

 

[Treadwell]

Sure, I'd be happy to put my energies into research that would benefit everyone.

 

[Treadwell]

So do any of the current crop of participants have any other Bandai 1/48 kits? Tiger I, perhaps?


While we wait to hear which parts even the oldtimers haven't found, here's a poser:

These Hummel shock absorber parts:

are reportedly these Y parts:

However, I don't see that toothed gear detail on the part where it should appear. Trimmed? But why? That's some delicate sanding just to replace one detail with another.

Do any other Bandai 1/15 tanks have equivalent parts? I know the StuG doesn't.