joberg
Legendary Member
Maybe it was something that they built last minute and never bothered to document
T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread
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Too Much Garlic
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But they used it in T2 as well. So they kept it. So it must be somewhere.
Too Much Garlic
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Found something fun from the movie when checking screen used rifles. The bottom barrel section on the shooting rifles were not level with the bottom edge, but were raised. All the endos shooting in that scene had the weird rifles - maybe the same full scale endo shot several times and comped together.
The skull stumping endo has the bottom barrel sitting level with the rest, so it may be a firing rifle issue to have it the weird way.
So far have found 4 versions with the movie style Calico insert look, where the top Calico detail has been sanded away, so doing all those. Skull stumper rifle is gonna be the hardest to do.
The skull stumping endo has the bottom barrel sitting level with the rest, so it may be a firing rifle issue to have it the weird way.
So far have found 4 versions with the movie style Calico insert look, where the top Calico detail has been sanded away, so doing all those. Skull stumper rifle is gonna be the hardest to do.
BlueBeast440
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Hi there I just went through all 112 pages of this post and just gonna throw stuff out there. I'm doing a major reworking of the Djon T-800 for the past couple years, (so inaccurate in many ways) and though using Jaz reference pic library and auction pictures, the same as you guys, I only have achieved about 90% of the level of accuracy and detail that you have done. You guys have the bar set very high lol. A week ago I thought i was finished with it overall.
However, after scouring the 112 pages, I only found 2 or 3 things I will change/modify/edit, so I did pretty darn good for myself
- For faces, such as making a 3D model of Arnie's head, I would look into the addon called FaceBuilder (mine was for Blender). It's expensive for continued use, but I had a 30 day trial version and created, what I feel, is the best Hellraiser Pinhead model out there (just the head). I can't say enough about using it to get a huge 'head' start with any realistic/accurate head project. You use multiple angle pictures and drag various points to match. Kinda reverse photogrammetry.
- Maybe someone can use this info... The shoulder motors (just the motors) I believe are mirrors of each other (except the shorter solenoid protrusion), however the end parts that attach to the huge discs (looks like it has a mini cooling fan in it), those pieces are identical, not mirrored. They use the same part on each side and rotated so that the 'cooling fan' lines up with the solenoid protrusion of the motor. I always see models with the motors mirrored as a whole, and always thought it was correct, and it's not.
My T-800 is a little blend of T1 and T2... as you know the differences are minor, but I'm making it with my favorite parts rather one version or the other.
I like the Djon skull, but it looks like it's not the 'modified' T2 skull. If someone could direct me to the most accurate T2 skull model I'd appreciate it. I am sure it won't be one of the free STLs.
Great work you guys! I wish my modeling was good enough to make mine as accurate as yours, but some of those parts are beyond my skill to modify lol
I just went through all 112 pages of this post and just gonna throw stuff out there. I'm doing a major reworking of the Djon T-800 for the past couple years, (so inaccurate in many ways) and though using Jaz reference pic library and auction pictures, the same as you guys, I only have achieved about 90% of the level of accuracy and detail that you have done. You guys have the bar set very high lol. A week ago I thought i was finished with it overall.However, after scouring the 112 pages, I only found 2 or 3 things I will change/modify/edit, so I did pretty darn good for myself
- For faces, such as making a 3D model of Arnie's head, I would look into the addon called FaceBuilder (mine was for Blender). It's expensive for continued use, but I had a 30 day trial version and created, what I feel, is the best Hellraiser Pinhead model out there (just the head). I can't say enough about using it to get a huge 'head' start with any realistic/accurate head project. You use multiple angle pictures and drag various points to match. Kinda reverse photogrammetry.
- Maybe someone can use this info... The shoulder motors (just the motors) I believe are mirrors of each other (except the shorter solenoid protrusion), however the end parts that attach to the huge discs (looks like it has a mini cooling fan in it), those pieces are identical, not mirrored. They use the same part on each side and rotated so that the 'cooling fan' lines up with the solenoid protrusion of the motor. I always see models with the motors mirrored as a whole, and always thought it was correct, and it's not.
My T-800 is a little blend of T1 and T2... as you know the differences are minor, but I'm making it with my favorite parts rather one version or the other.
I like the Djon skull, but it looks like it's not the 'modified' T2 skull. If someone could direct me to the most accurate T2 skull model I'd appreciate it. I am sure it won't be one of the free STLs.
Great work you guys! I wish my modeling was good enough to make mine as accurate as yours, but some of those parts are beyond my skill to modify lol
Nokitten
Jr Member
Picture for comparison. On the right is my reworked version. And I think I got what I wanted.
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you can be proud of your work! I'm in the process of messing around with the model...honestly I think that the skynet model has to be scaled up by 10 to 11 %...the gearbox housing as it is (not the one that came with the model) will not fit into the temple, it's too big.
joberg
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BlueBeast440
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Looking for some thoughts/opinions on some details and if I will include them or not. I'm not adept at picking out the differences between T1 & T2 in many cases. What features would you include/exclude? I appreciate any feedback
A) Are the hoses to the motors 'common'? I've seen pics with and without... are they T1 or T2 specific? The pistons holding up the motors, I don't see them very often... T1 or T2? or personal preference?
B, C, D) Is adding smaller hoses a bit too much? I don't see those often at all, and know it might be personal preference.
E) I know Star Wars blaster builds people keep manufacturer markings for prop accuracy, would you do it for a Plasma Rifle prop for accuracy?
Thanks for any tips/opinions
A) Are the hoses to the motors 'common'? I've seen pics with and without... are they T1 or T2 specific? The pistons holding up the motors, I don't see them very often... T1 or T2? or personal preference?
B, C, D) Is adding smaller hoses a bit too much? I don't see those often at all, and know it might be personal preference.
E) I know Star Wars blaster builds people keep manufacturer markings for prop accuracy, would you do it for a Plasma Rifle prop for accuracy?
Thanks for any tips/opinions
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Too Much Garlic
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A: those marked pistons aren't T1 or T2. Could be something later. The hoses is seen on T2 stuff. Haven't checked T1.
Definitely add those wires and connectors.
And yeah. Copy the text.
Definitely add those wires and connectors.
And yeah. Copy the text.
BlueBeast440
New Member
Here's some Calico M960 reference pics for the plasma rifle. Hope this helps others! There's writing on both sides (a couple are covered or partially covered). Have some fun with coming up with a custom serial number
Thanks for the help TMG!
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Notice, all screen used guns that I have seen pictures of, has this entire top sanded down, leaving no details, so don't copy that from the Calico.
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BlueBeast440
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Thanks for the tip!
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY (1991) - Screen-Matched M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle
pAn M95A1 Phased Plasma rifle from James Camerons sci-fi action sequel Terminator 2 Judgment Day. The Terminators of the Future War and their human Resistance opponents used plasma rifles when the fully-grown Resistance leader John Connor (Michael Edwards) led the final assault against Skynet...
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BlueBeast440
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Looks like a quick and dirty attempt to smooth the letters on the left side, but that's hollywood... no one would see it anyway. Looks like only the writing ahead of the trigger is kept on both sides. I myself will probably do a serial number anyway as a personalization.TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY (1991) - Screen-Matched M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle
pAn M95A1 Phased Plasma rifle from James Camerons sci-fi action sequel Terminator 2 Judgment Day. The Terminators of the Future War and their human Resistance opponents used plasma rifles when the fully-grown Resistance leader John Connor (Michael Edwards) led the final assault against Skynet...propstore.com
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Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Sorry for the lack of updates. Haven't been feeling well.
After the fix on the foam skull, I wanted to see how it would fit inside the T1 bust I'm doing... and it fit pretty damn well. It changes the whole look of the visible skull sections. Will work with the foam skull from now on and will have to remedy some of the areas I sculpted on the bust before that no longer fits the skull... but that should be minor stuff. Hopes to get back to sculpting more on the bust soon.
Difference between LFS skull and fixed Foam Skull.
After the fix on the foam skull, I wanted to see how it would fit inside the T1 bust I'm doing... and it fit pretty damn well. It changes the whole look of the visible skull sections. Will work with the foam skull from now on and will have to remedy some of the areas I sculpted on the bust before that no longer fits the skull... but that should be minor stuff. Hopes to get back to sculpting more on the bust soon.
Difference between LFS skull and fixed Foam Skull.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Thanks. I try. Here's another one for good measure. Really like how it fits Arnold's face better than the LFS.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Cleaned up the bust openings so they now fit with the Foam Skull. Then decided to load up all the models I have aligned to the bust to make this image. Thought it was fun to see it together.
