Star Wars Returns to Theaters…In 2027

SE isn't my memory at ALL from back then. Has to be the original as released and I'll go. They can clean it up a little to make it look like a brand new print but I want those visible blue screen compositing boxes around all the models! LOL

And sadly the Valley Circle theater was demo'd years ago and an effin' BevMo sits on the land now. So can't relive that memory again of a single big screen theater, none are left.
 
Purist zealot here.

My only interest (and the vain hope that it will ever come to fruition) is a 4K blu ray box set of the original three films. Just the theatrical cuts, made to look and sound their best with a proper restoration, the way any other film would be treated as a historical artifact of the era in which it was made. No changes to the content, just a restoration of the films as a preservation effort the way 4K77 has done, but as an officially licensed product akin to a Criterion collection offering.

It comes as no surprise to hear that for the 50th anniversary there will be a theatrical rerelease. As much as I'm glad I saw Return of the Jedi in the theater for its 40th anniversary, it made me realize that I was lucky enough to have seen almost all of my favorite films on the big screen and I'm content to never see them up there again. Not because I dislike these stories, but because I want them to stop being compartmentalized in my mind as being movies that somehow exist outside the way I view other movies.

For me the theatrical experience is relic of the past. I'm not opposed to it entirely, but I've seen these classics so many times that I rarely revisit them anymore, even at home on physical media. Most of my viewing them is for research on replicating things from them. It's become difficult to watch these as films because I've become so accustomed to their making that I often lose focus on the narrative and my mind gets caught up in the behind the scenes technical details, or production woes of the filming.

I would like to own the blu rays so that if I wanted to show my son when he's old enough, I could show him the films as I experienced them, or at the very least to have the option to show them to him, even if I never do. Having the choice is more important because we've never been given one to have properly preserved versions outside of fan efforts.

I experienced the trilogy on home video for movie night as a family when I was a kid. So if I show them to my boy, that's how I would do it. Not to turn him into a devotee the way I have become, but to have a shared experience with him as father and son. Seeing his reaction might help me to get lost in the story and maybe reset my brain to stop picking them apart to figure out how to replicate things from them and I could experience that magic with him like a normal adult.

The older I get, the more I'm slowly coming to appreciate that looking back is fun, but it can also keep you stuck in the past, hoping for days gone by to return to the point where it stifles growth. While I do have concerns about what lies ahead, having a family shifts your perspective, and I'm not concerned that my kid carry my own interests forward. I want him to be his own person. I see the way my father is stuck in the past and I know I don't want to be like him. I don't want my son to be weighed down by my own hang ups either.

As for the theatrical rerelease, I don't know what to expect as far as which version will be shown, but I know that it's not something that affects me the way it might have a few years back because I have no plans to see it in theaters again. My memories are sufficient enough.

Just like I have no plans to see my favorite band in concert anymore, I'm content to have had the experience, and I'm glad I had the chance. I need to keep moving forward. From time to time I can think back on it and smile, but I don't need to perpetually relive it.

If I were a normal person, this anniversary theatrical rerelease might be an exciting event, but because this has been part of my daily life in some form or another since childhood, its not that big of a deal. These stories are near and dear to my heart, but they need to become stories disassociated from the impulse to dissect in my mind. The only way to recapture the magic they once held is, ironically, to treat them as I would any other work of fiction.
 
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I'm in a weird middle ground where I like some of the SE changes (mostly the cleaned up mattes, the improved matte paintings and set extensions, and some of the new shots during the Death Star battle) while hating the really intrusive stuff, like the Jabba scene, Greedo changes, or the Mos Eisley visual overload; the stuff that alters the story and/or reeks of 1997 CGI.

Ah, yes, the timeless verisimilitude of 1997 CGI…

It’s hard to believe that this came out after Jurassic Park:

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I'm in a weird middle ground where I like some of the SE changes (mostly the cleaned up mattes, the improved matte paintings and set extensions, and some of the new shots during the Death Star battle) while hating the really intrusive stuff, like the Jabba scene, Greedo changes, or the Mos Eisley visual overload; the stuff that alters the story and/or reeks of 1997 CGI.

There are objectively good and bad things about both versions. It's not an either/or scenario.
 
Disney owns it outright. They can do whatever they want. Lucas can get mad, but he can't stop them.

Even though Disney owns the films outright, I'm willing to bet there was a clause in the sale to Disney, where as long as Lucas is alive, Disney agrees not air the "originals"

But I could be wrong (I'm probably not, but anything is possible!)
 
Funny…I posted this topic as—what I thought—was good news.

Man…the fandom truly is shattered, isn’t it?
No, as with any long-running fandom, there are multiple competing generations. I saw Star Wars in the theater in 1977. That's the only version I care about. Anyone born long after I was, they had a different experience. People born today, with the social and political views they have now, probably like what Disney is doing because that's their Star Wars. I think it's crap. Different strokes.

It's the old fans who will care about Star Wars in the theater and we're going to want the originals. If they put out anything else, the box office is going to be terrible.
 
No, as with any long-running fandom, there are multiple competing generations. I saw Star Wars in the theater in 1977. That's the only version I care about. Anyone born long after I was, they had a different experience. People born today, with the social and political views they have now, probably like what Disney is doing because that's their Star Wars. I think it's crap. Different strokes.

It's the old fans who will care about Star Wars in the theater and we're going to want the originals. If they put out anything else, the box office is going to be terrible.


Objective quality is a thing. “Generational differences” is just an excuse for mediocrity.
 
Cheap, lazy, minimum effort, yes.

Which is surely what we’ll get. A digital projection of the 2019 4K.

Anything else would be shocking. And, even if a restoration of the 1977 cut is underway, the real question is, “How will it be screwed up?”.

The head shaking fact is... the original 1977 film has ALREADY been restored, a few times, but through non-official channels. The work has already been done FOR Disney, whom I am sure could partner with one of these existing fan-based restoration teams to use for a theatrical release.

...Which they won't.
 
The head shaking fact is... the original 1977 film has ALREADY been restored, a few times, but through non-official channels. The work has already been done FOR Disney, whom I am sure could partner with one of these existing fan-based restoration teams to use for a theatrical release.

...Which they won't.

But, as good as they are, those fanmade versions aren’t as good as an official release could be, since they’re digitally restored scans of release prints, rather than being from the negative or an interpositive, as official studio releases of films are.

Lucas has been quoted as saying that a restoration would be expensive, and that he considered it an incompleted film, anyway, so why bother?

That being said, the elements are there. They could either scan the negative and the trims made for the Special Edition and then digitally reassemble Humpty Dumpty, or do a new scan of a surviving interpositive or a similar high-quality source. The only things standing in the way are money and motivation.

Of course, the low-quality, DVD “bonus disc”, laserdisc masters have been cited as “proof” that the original versions “look terrible”. And now we have the clickbait articles (and the idiocy of people like Anomaly, Inc.) coming out of the BFI screenings. There’s either an agenda at play, here, and/or a total lack of understanding when it comes to film history and restoration.

There’s been a concerted effort by Lucas Cultists to claim that the original cuts “look terrible”. I, on the other hand, think that the 2004 and 2011 versions look terrible, with wonky colors and crushed blacks. The 2019 4K is an improvement, but still has major, major issues. But the dilettante fanboys don’t know any better, and just think “ remastered=good”.

These people have been fooled into thinking that the modern-day remastering and revisionism of the film somehow “looks better” than the film as originally shot, finished, and presented.

That being said, the 1997 Special Editions are the best the films have ever looked and sounded, thanks to their extensive photochemical restoration, including Lucas using his own personal Technicolor IB print of STAR WARS as a guide for color-timing the 1997 version. The result was a consistent, very faithful color grade, in many ways superior to the original release.

Every home video release since 2004 has been a step down from that, particularly the 2004/2011 releases, which cranked up the saturation to ridiculous levels to try and make the OT consistent with the vibrant look of the prequels. The 4Ks dialed things down, but introduced new problems, too.

I’ll take the original, vibrant color-grading and grainy, filmic look any day over the 4Ks’ dark, drab look and excessive DNR.
 
Objective quality is a thing. “Generational differences” is just an excuse for mediocrity.
Agreed, but everyone likes what they like and you can't stop them. Where it becomes a problem is where people are unable to describe WHY they like a thing or examine it critically, which sadly, a lot of people, especially young people, seem incapable of.
 
Agreed, but everyone likes what they like and you can't stop them. Where it becomes a problem is where people are unable to describe WHY they like a thing or examine it critically, which sadly, a lot of people, especially young people, seem incapable of.

Precisely.

Consume product, then get excited for new product, with no actual critical thinking involved. Loyalty to brand names instead of characters and ideas.
 
Announcing two years from now that they are just going to show the Disney+ version makes no sense to me. The TPM and ROTS re-releases where announced just a few weeks before the actual date.
The D23 shareholder event is just around the corner, and the article on the official site says that they will deliver more details soon. The BFI showing of A New Hope in London had received much positive reactions. This event alone proved that an absolute screening prohibition that we all thought George Lucas would have spoken out does not exist.
Mix all that with the recent rumors floating through the internet (which nobody really seem to care for) about an ongoing restoration, and it will do the math.
 
One can hope for a Blu ray release of a proper official restoration of the trilogy, but I'm not counting on that ever happening. Regardless of George's wishes to rewrite history, if theres money on the table, Disney will take it. Indy will be rebooted eventually too. Despite this, I suspect releasing physical media just isn't in their plans.

I would love to be wrong about this, but my guess is that the only reason they likely wouldn't do it isn't out of respect for George's wishes, but because the culture has mostly abandoned physical media in favor of streaming.

A theatrical rerelease on an anniversary has proven to be profitable for them, so news of this coming in 2027 is a no brainer. Revenge of the Sith did well as did Return of the Jedi. This will do well too but its likely going to be the current version, not the 77 original.
 
The leaks had technical indications that a home media release will follow after the theatrical showings. Further more, the entire trilogy gets a restoration, not just ANH.

So I predict ANH in cinemas, and after that (maybe Christmas?) they will release the complete trilogy on Blu-ray.
 
I hope the rumors of a proper restoration and home video release are true, but how many years have those same rumors been circulating the web and amounted to nothing?

I'd be thrilled to be wrong about this.
 
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