Spider-Man: No Way Home

What’s really gonna stink is when Toby Spider-Man goes home to cuddle up with Mary Jane and she has no idea who he is.
I don't think that would be the case. My impression was that the spell that Strange cast was localized to the MCU Spiderverse only, all others would be unaffected by it. Nothing suggested to me that it was a multi-dimensional spell.
 
The whole reason all the villains from the other dimensions were coming over was because they knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. He never said forget Peter Parker in this universe only!
 
By that logic, the multiverse would never have opened and those who knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man would never have crossed over.
 
The whole reason all the villains from the other dimensions were coming over was because they knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. He never said forget Peter Parker in this universe only!
They knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man in their universe, not this one. And Strange never said that the spell would affect more than one universe either. What happens in other universes was of no concern to Strange, he essentially said as much to Peter when he told him of his plan to send the villains back to face whatever fate they had waiting for them.
 
SPOILER!

Anyone else get the sense that Tobey's Spidey was originally supposed to die after being stabbed in the back by the Goblin, but the filmmakers chickened out, possibly due to bad audience reaction during test viewings?

Possibly. He gets hurt but nothing comes of it. I brought this up earlier, but this is one of the reasons why I couldn't connect with anything in this film or anything prior to this; there was no sense of danger. Villains frame the potential and ability of the hero, when the hero can literally do anything and survive being crushed between cars or reinforced concrete pipes without suffering so much as a scuff, there's no risk. Holland and Dafoe tear up an entire apartment complex and...nothing. The world around them feels like paper. Even when May dies, she gets tossed around like rag-doll and still gets up. They had similar things in the older films before this, but nothing I felt so egregious.
 
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im going again tonight to see it with my sister. anyone want me to keep an eye out for certain things? i know the logo on the front and back of the end suit was a hot topic the last few days but i believe pirated pics already surfaced

i wonder if they made a actual practical new suit for the end or was that all CGI
 
Possibly. He gets hurt but nothing comes of it. I brought this up earlier, but this is one of the reasons why I couldn't connect with anything in this film or anything prior to this; there was no sense of danger. Villains frame the potential and ability of the hero, when the hero can literally do anything and survive being crushed between cars or reinforced concrete pipes without suffering so much as a scuff, there's no risk. Holland and Dafoe tear up an entire apartment complex and...nothing. The world around them feels like paper. Even when May dies, she gets tossed around like rag-doll and still gets up. They had similar things in the older films before this, but nothing I felt so egregious.

Surprised your thoughts on May... her getting up and then dying shortly after worked for me. As soon as she got up I'm like "Oh she's done. This is all adrenaline." and the wearing off of that adrenaline worked perfectly for me.

Even without other deaths, there was such a sense of loss at the end of this movie I'm still kinda hit by it. I mean Holland's Parker lost Ben, Tony, and May in his "origins" to become "Spider-Man" (like the traditional Spider-Man, Not Spider-Stark)... Even Happy, who could have been someone to lean on, nope!

And then walking into that shop at the end I felt the full weight of what he must feel coming in and fully realizing this is a complete do-over... his girl and his best friend just blank. I mean consider how long he's probably known Ned...

Not to be corny... but I feel like I need to know he's alright. I give a crap that a fictional character could end up broken.

Cuz Garfield breaking down talking about not pulling punches... all the emotional heft and scars these guys are carrying around to me is more impactful than them dying, or anyone else dying....

And Tom Holland running around the whole movie just trying to fix people makes the broken Spider-Men just really stick with me coming out of this...
 
So this happened....

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I had no idea what was going on... I didn't know my theater had an auditorium that did this...

It started with the Marvel logo floating in from the sides... then all the action sequences had this crazy stuff going on in my peripheral...

I was SUPER BAKED! This was NOT COOL.

Thank god they cut it out on the character scenes... Jeeez.

Gotta pay attention when I but tickets to more than just "Can I get my spot behind the wheelchairs?!" (you need the bar for your feet)

The other editor here at work referred to it as "Imax if you bought it off Wish.com", haha
 
We have something like that here in L.A. It's called Screen-X. Same people who do the 4DX where your seat moves and they pump in smells and other environmental effects depending on the movie.
 
We have something like that here in L.A. It's called Screen-X. Same people who do the 4DX where your seat moves and they pump in smells and other environmental effects depending on the movie.
Don’t know how I feel about that….
 
We have something like that here in L.A. It's called Screen-X. Same people who do the 4DX where your seat moves and they pump in smells and other environmental effects depending on the movie.

Yeah I believe Kev Smith gets sponsored on his podcast... I was always interested, but I would have wanted to know I was getting it. and I wouldn't have wanted this to be my test of it!

I'd have seen a full on action flick I didn't care about... like a Fast and Furious or something...

I'm a simple man. Just give me the movies on a big screen with good sound. No gimmicks.
 
Yeah I believe Kev Smith gets sponsored on his podcast... I was always interested, but I would have wanted to know I was getting it. and I wouldn't have wanted this to be my test of it!

I'd have seen a full on action flick I didn't care about... like a Fast and Furious or something...

I'm a simple man. Just give me the movies on a big screen with good sound. No gimmicks.
The only tickets I could buy was the first row. I never sit in the front row I usually do the last row because of my anxiety and being closest to the door..

But front row man.. the fight scene at the end I couldn’t tell you what happened I had to move my head from side to side to actually see what was going on.

Going again tonight because of that
 
The only tickets I could buy was the first row. I never sit in the front row I usually do the last row because of my anxiety and being closest to the door..

But front row man.. the fight scene at the end I couldn’t tell you what happened I had to move my head from side to side to actually see what was going on.

Going again tonight because of that

It's a pretty crazy fight to follow anyway - though so was into the spider-verse's final battle. But the Character interactions during both battles help move it along and give it more focus.

I assume when you get a better look, the obvious re-use on villain footage from other flicks will be MORE obvious.

it's weird watching them NOT interact with what's around them... lost in their own world (film shoot) from years ago...
 
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Surprised your thoughts on May... her getting up and then dying shortly after worked for me. As soon as she got up I'm like "Oh she's done. This is all adrenaline." and the wearing off of that adrenaline worked perfectly for me.

Even without other deaths, there was such a sense of loss at the end of this movie I'm still kinda hit by it. I mean Holland's Parker lost Ben, Tony, and May in his "origins" to become "Spider-Man" (like the traditional Spider-Man, Not Spider-Stark)... Even Happy, who could have been someone to lean on, nope!

And then walking into that shop at the end I felt the full weight of what he must feel coming in and fully realizing this is a complete do-over... his girl and his best friend just blank. I mean consider how long he's probably known Ned...

Not to be corny... but I feel like I need to know he's alright. I give a crap that a fictional character could end up broken.

Cuz Garfield breaking down talking about not pulling punches... all the emotional heft and scars these guys are carrying around to me is more impactful than them dying, or anyone else dying....

And Tom Holland running around the whole movie just trying to fix people makes the broken Spider-Men just really stick with me coming out of this...

Again, I recognize that I probably didn't sympathize because I just don't connect with this iteration of Peter Parker and the cast around him. A part of it is me and a part of it is the movie(s) leading up to this. It's not so much that death and loss being the factor for sympathy, it's that fear of loss; death being the ultimate bottom that underpins it all, but it's the emotional weight and information behind it that lends it gravity. To build that impact, you have to build up relationships and I never got that from these movies. I suppose people speaking past one another, deliver stinging quips, and then moving on is fun enough to watch but it all felt at arms length to me. I never approached the idea that this Peter might be affected in some way because I never felt for a moment that his movies approached something sincere or heart-felt to get me there; a nugget of genuine humanity.
Even when May dies here, the circumstances under which isn't really important (although I find it a bit far and removed just because the premise is so big), but there wasn't a moment or number of them before in the other films that showed their connection and relationship as family, as blood, as people; how they love, how they hurt. So, it felt cold. These films operate on a short-hand that might work narratively for an unending series but not for characters, there must be time for them. When Superman screams at Lois dying after Luthor bombs the San Andreas fault, it's impactful not because she dies, but because all the time before that we as the audience get to see why and how both fall for another, so Supes breaking his one rule of altering history means something then. We only ever got to see May in these movies as fun and hot.
 
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Again, I recognize that I probably didn't sympathize because I just don't connect with this iteration of Peter Parker and the cast around him. A part of it is me and a part of it is the movie(s) leading up to this. It's not so much that death and loss being the factor for sympathy, it's that fear of loss; death being the ultimate bottom that underpins it all, but it's the emotional weight and information behind it that lends it gravity. To build that impact, you have to build up relationships and I never got that from these movies. I suppose people speaking past one another, deliver stinging quips, and then moving on is fun enough to watch but it all felt at arms length to me. I never approached the idea that this Peter might be affected in some way because I never felt for a moment that his movies approached something sincere or heart-felt to get me there; a nugget of genuine humanity.
Even when May dies here, the circumstances under which isn't really important (although I find it a bit far and removed just because the premise is so big), but there wasn't a moment or number of them before in the other films that showed their connection and relationship as family, as blood, as people; how they love, how they hurt. So, it felt cold. These films operate on a short-hand that might work narratively for an unending series but not for characters, there must be time for them. When Superman screams at Lois dying after Luthor bombs the San Andreas fault, it's impactful not because she dies, but because all the time before that we as the audience get to see why and how both fall for another, so Supes breaking his one rule of altering history means something then. We only ever got to see May in these movies as fun and hot.

Yeah so much is what you bring into it...

I don't even know if the emotional beats in this would have connected with me the same way 10 years ago.
 
Yeah, I have to wonder at the stuff that I did connect with wasn't just because of my affinity for the first two Raimi Spider-Man films and my respect for Garfield as an actor. That is, ultimately, the main draw of this film for me and many people I would imagine. Had this film been called "Home-Cookin'" or something and it was just another Holland outing with him fighting Chameleon, I wonder if there would be as much interest and success as it currently has.
 
I just never bought Garfield as Peter Parker, way too cocky and not enough of an outcast to start with. That's where Tobey hit it out of the park, he was a nerd, and he was awkward and you could see him change.
 
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