revision of Indiana Jones Lost Journal

[katmax]

Here's an example of where I did it for the Sankara stones analysis.

This worked out really well. Though I think I'd draw this into my journal as I'm doing it by hand.
I just watched the YIJ Mexico 1916 episode. It has some good images of diary pages. From what I saw in the episode there's quite a few colour pages and they seem to match what you see here.

Young Indiana Jones' Diary

I wish you could see these better as I can see I'm missing some official pages now, but I'll have to live with it.

A couple of bits from Spring Break Adventure 1916

Letter from Indy's cousin Frank late Feburaray or early March 1916:

Dear Indy

How are you?
Can not wait for you to get down here.
I have made a significant discovery!!
You will go crazy when you see it.

See you soon
Frank

Letter from Indy to TE Lawrence aka Ned in early March 1916

Capt. T.E Lawrence
Cairo Intelligence Dept
Savoy Hotel
Cairo, Egypt

Dear Ned
Thanks for your letter. It's great to hear you've been posted to Cairo. It reminds me
of when we were in Egypt together, exploring the tomb of Kah. The most exciting time
I ever had. Anyway I bet you are having a great time in the army even if as you say all
you do is draw maps.

Knowing you, you will soon find where the fighting is and you will be right in the middle
of things. I envy you and hope you will see a lot of action. It's terrible being stuck finishing
high school especially when so much is happening in Europe.

your friend

Indy

(note what is read out in the voice over ..... "there's a bunch going on in the world"....is different to what is written on the page he's supposed to be reading.)

I've attached a few more cleaned up inserts as well.

PS the RMP Mauritania postcards aren't hard to pick up on Delecamp. These are related to Indy's first marriage when he married Dierdre Campbell on this ship. You can also find unused original Field Service postcards from WWI there.

You can also read the Indiana Jones comics for free here. They can provide some useful images for new content. Buying the comics now can be pretty pricey.

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[airman]

I actually have most of the comics already because I bought them ages back. I am deciding how many to incorporate since they vary in quality. I've been using Magnoli's diary here as my sort of north star since it's the first version I found that really inspired this whole project so many years ago. Though I've been doing everything in black and white ink and pencil (so no colored pencil or watercolor). I'm mostly taking that stance since it matches Magnoli's later work, the majority of the Lost Journal, and it kind of makes sense with Indy's modus operandi. He moves fast with minimal equipment and having a whole coloring set for drawings takes up space. All that said it's also much easier to produce the images in high quality when they're just black and white, and I can always go back and add colors after. I'm going to print my journal so adding colored pencil after will also look more accurate. I will also note that there is a video on youtube that seems to show a digital journal. I am hesitant to post a link because it's not my work, but it can be found by searching "Indiana Jones Journal". My own journal will just be for me, so I'm using it as a guide on material and drawings.

That episode has so much good stuff in it for the journal! I found this video on COW that has Ned's letter to Indy, which I transcribed as:

Dear Henry,

At last I’m leaving
Cairo. They’re sending me
to the desert to make
contact with the Bedouin.
I must take some part in this
war. I believe something
honorable can be achieved here
but all I am certain of is
this war must be fought,
above all it must be
won. The alternative is
unthinkable. Oh lord
how serious I am.

Your Friend,
Ned

I also found the postage stamp and a letter with the relevant mailing stamp thanks to COW. It also includes a photo of Ned I haven't been able to find (screenshot attached). Has anyone been able to dig it up?

 

[Indy Magnoli]

Another insert I have been searching for is the aerial reconnaissance photo from the YIJC series. I've only found it on Indy Magnoli's site (low-res screen grab from his site attached) and he notes that it's "a WWI photograph of enemy territory, copied directly from a prop used in the television series". I'd love to find it as I'm hoping to include as many of the original items seen in the films and shows as possible, but I've had no luck either here or at COW.

 

[repy]

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Indy Magnoli is not only a prop master Lord.. He is also a Gentleman for sharing this (and others before). Huge thanks to him...

 

[katmax]

Dear Henry,

At last I’m leaving
Cairo. They’re sending me
to the desert to make
contact with the Bedouin.
I must take some part in this
war. I believe something
honorable can be achieved here
but all I am certain of is
this war must be fought,
above all it must be
won. The alternative is
unthinkable. Oh lord
how serious I am.

Your Friend,
Ned

Strange. I'll swear this was missing in the episode I watched. Thanks for adding this into the thread.

I've a couple of letterheads to add.
* 1916 letterhead used by TE Lawrence while stationed at the Savoy in Cairo
* 1919 British delegation letterhead from the peace conference

In 1916 they were using this oblong style paper rather than a full A4

BTW, you might want to change "honorable" to "honourable" ...British spelling in the above letter. Its not hard to find examples of TE Lawrences writing online if you want to match the script.

I haven't found the image in your screenshot but its from the 1908 egypt episode. The closest I've found is this one which comes from the trading card set.

 

[katmax]

I actually have most of the comics already because I bought them ages back. I am deciding how many to incorporate since they vary in quality.

When I put a summary together of how many stories there are in the comics and the amount of pages in the young indy diary I made a couple of decisions. The Marvel comics are not being included with one exception, a small section relating to Indy recovering the Chachapoyan idol. I'll add something for most of the other comics but it means can't do more than a couple of pages each. Its possible a few might drop out along the way.
I haven't included all the young Indy novels but I will try and put in the adult novel versions and I'll put the Disney ride in as it has some interesting map material. I'm stopping this diary at 1939 and have a different book for 1940-50 and will do a last volume with Crystal Skull and dial of destiny.

It will be interesting to see how Dial of Destiny feeds into the earlier Indiana Jones stories and might result in some revision I suspect.

 

[airman]

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Wow absolutely incredible thank you so much!

 

[airman]

Strange. I'll swear this was missing in the episode I watched. Thanks for adding this into the thread.

I've a couple of letterheads to add.
* 1916 letterhead used by TE Lawrence while stationed at the Savoy in Cairo
* 1919 British delegation letterhead from the peace conference

In 1916 they were using this oblong style paper rather than a full A4

BTW, you might want to change "honorable" to "honourable" ...British spelling in the above letter. Its not hard to find examples of TE Lawrences writing online if you want to match the script.

I haven't found the image in your screenshot but its from the 1908 egypt episode. The closest I've found is this one which comes from the trading card set.

I thought the same about it being missing when I saw the clip, since I didn't remember it but I'm not complaining since at least it exists.
Excellent notes on accuracy and great letterheads. Small thought that by the time Lawrence was at the peace conference (from which he was quickly barred in reality) his disdain towards the Allies' behavior was such that he might shun such a letterhead, at least in personal correspondence. When you say oblong paper you mean rounded corners like your examples?
Of course, very honourable of you to catch that! And yes, matching his script is exactly what I plan to do!
I thought it was from the 1908 episode too, which makes it a bit anachronistic but ah well. Great job on the trading card! It certainly feels close enough to me.

 

[katmax]

the might shun such a letterhead, at least in personal correspondence. When you say oblong paper you mean rounded corners like your examples?
Of course, very honourable of you to catch that! And yes, matching his script is exactly what I plan to do!

Attached is a letter from T.E. Lawrence at the peace conference. You'll notice it has the logo in the top left but his version is embossed. I suspect that different styles of the government header were used depending on rank of the person. I found the blue one in another archive and cleaned it up as the closest I could get and still be authentic.

It looks like what the intelligence dept was using was half a British A4 size. I wouldn't be suprised if this was done to save paper wastage.

Also I think the letter we have from Ned is a second one.

1. Letter to Indy telling him he is in Cairo and mostly drawing maps.
2. Indy replies to this letter on the train (quoted above) with this snipped from the first letter.
3. Indy gets another letter from Ned saying he's leaving Cairo to work with the Bedouin.

It may be that this third letter was cut from the DVD sets as some sort of continuity issue for the stories as we don't see how Indy actually gets this letter given he doesn't go home again after Mexico.

 

[airman]

Great points on the letterhead, and very nicely cleaned up in your previous post!
I think you're right on the number and order of the Ned letters, though the 3rd letter we have is also referenced in the Paris peace conference episode (Indy quotes the " this war must be fought, above all it must be won. The alternative is unthinkable." back to Lawrence who now thinks it sounds ludicrous.) so not quite sure how to tally that with continuity corrections though I'll include it in my version of the journal. I've not caught any others from Ned in the series yet, only ones to him written by Indy and read out. Considering those will have been sent I have not been planning to include them in my own journal.

 

[katmax]

I think I'll also only add letters 2 & 3 to my diary. Its already bulky enough in this section with the letters from Frank and Nancy.

Managing the inserts is tricky. They can quickly take over although they are one of the big things that really make this project interesting.
Some of my inserts, like the letters between Indy and Sophie in 1908 I was able to paste Sophie's in and then fold in Indy's behind it along with Sophie's photo postcard so they fit neatly into the diary and don't fall out.

Envelopes on the other hand I think are a bit beyond me.

I've been trying to find old note papers - especially blank ones - to give me some variety in the papers used on letters etc in the diary. The old paper can be surprisingly hard to find sometimes. I recently read "Designing graphic props for filmmaking" by Annie Atkins who confirmed good quality old paper is like gold dust for props.

 

[airman]

Yeah the paper is a huge challenge for me too. I'm going to go to several stores and hopefully I'll get enough variety it'll work to start. of course actually starting up my own boutique print shop level infrastructure for this project is daunting in itself. I learnt from Indy Magnoli that he makes his own envelopes to get the sizes and styles he wants. I'll probably do that too, though I've yet to dig into finding a good source of templates.
Speaking of old bank notes, I'm in the same place of needing to dig up "bank paper" and similar. on a positive note, not sure if you've already dug it up but the arabic banknote from raiders can be found here and the banknote image itself is large enough that it lends itself to replicating. I think the back is blank other than the small unique number seen in the upper left. I think this number is on the back since the B is backward in the image and given the apparent transparency of the paper, it makes me think the paper is thin and the back is otherwise blank.

 

[katmax]

I'd recommend having a look around charity shops. I've managed to find some that way. Ebay can sometimes be a more expensive source.
The "sallah bank note". I've made some copies of it. I found a description from an auction a while back which described it as thin paper and each note having a unique number on the back which is otherwise blank. Probably applied with a stamp is my guess. I have one genuine old Ottoman bank note and its back is also blank. The size of the original prop notes are 5 1/8" x 8 1/8"

Sallah's Bank Note Movie Prop from Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) @ Online Movie Memorabilia Archive and Marketplace - PROPbay.com

--> These prop bank notes were were printed to be used in Cairo scenes where Sallah pays off the local diggers and when Indy and Marion are shopping

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Where I can find reasonably priced old banknotes that are period appropriate I'll slip those in as well. Not being a bank note collector I've been really surprised by some of the prices on these old notes.

I've got an old book on easter island printed in 1919. When I get the time to scan some of the images I'll attach them to this thread. In the 20s most of the statues on the island had fallen down and it looks quite a bit different from what you see today.

 

[katmax]

The Fringe Eared Oryx sketch young Indy uses for reference in the 1909 British east africia episode is from this book:
Records of Big game by Rowland Ward 1903
I finally managed to find a decent image of it on wikipedia.

 

[airman]

I'm working on assembling some other inserts from WWI. Has anyone found any better pictures of both sides of a Range Table for 2-inch Mark I. Trench Howitzer? I found this auction as the best picture I've found so far. I'm also looking for:
- WWI Pilot Log sheet
- Battle of Beersheba Battle History Report
Has anyone come across these or got any suggestions on the best sites to find them?

 

[airman]

On a separate note I've been puzzling over a telegram related point. On Magnoli's site he's got a telegram from The Unicorn's Legacy as an insert (low res photo attached). The text of the telegram is as follows and from the book:
Date and time received (not clear but should be some time in May 1928)

PROF. JONES
HAMILTON HALL
MARSHALL COLLEGE

INDY
SOMETHING'S COME UP. I CAN'T MEET YOU IN BLUFF. SORRY.
MARA
So digging around in fandoms and on the internet I've got the following: seems that Indy should be teaching at Marshall college at that time, which would mean the hall should be Woolley hall (I think, unless he teaches elsewhere other times). Additionally the telegraph is a Federal Telegraph Company Radiogram. After a ton of searching I found this example. It suggests the address should also include the town and state, which would make the whole proposed address
PROF. JONES
WOOLEY HALL
MARSHALL COLLEGE
BEDFORD, CONNECTICUT
Final question at large though is does a telegram from Federal Telegraph make sense? They were based in Palo Alto, CA and "Originally a separate entity within the Mackay Companies, when International Telephone and Telegraph (ITT) purchased the Mackay Companies in 1928 Federal remained a component of the Mackay structure as a manufacturing entity." Haven't tracked down when the purchase happened but may be that they were being restructured at the time of the book. So would an alternative service like Western Union make more sense?

 

[katmax]

- Range Table for 2-inch Mark I. Trench Howitzer?
- WWI Pilot Log sheet
- Battle of Beersheba Battle History Report

Battle of Beersheba - you might want to try the Australian War Memorial - the charge of the light horse brigade is pretty famous in Australia even now.

Sources for the Battle | Australian War Memorial

www.awm.gov.au

WWI pilot log book example here

https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/images/online_exhibitions/McCudden-RAeC-Log-BookLG.jpg

another one from pinterest... Pilot's flying log book. This is the log book of British air ace Lieutenant Alexander George Vlasto, 31 August 1917-11 July 1918.

You can find a bunch of WWI related images here 100 First Air War Objects

 

[Barneyrfd]

Was thumbing through my copy of The Lost Journal of Indiana Jones and thought it might be interesting to recreate the journal in a bound format with all the inserts, photos, etc. I tracked down most of the original items and made replicas to place in the journal. So a while back I completed the journal and made a 10 minute video showing the result, it's a prototype so it needs some fine tuning but overall, I like it.

I revised the theme from the Russians taking it from Indy to it being a collection of notes and items from Indy's life found in storage at Marshall College and bound into a journal by their Archeology Dept. The video is a collection of page stills with comments on my revisions on each page.

Apologies to Indy Magnoli for any "toe-stepping".

Click Here for Youtube Video of Revised Lost Journal

 

[katmax]

Was thumbing through my copy of The Lost Journal of Indiana Jones and thought it might be interesting to recreate the journal in a bound format with all the inserts, photos, etc.

Wow, this is a seriously good journal. So much work here and skill in creating the copies of documents. I'm working on a young Indy diary but its not going to be as good as this. Congratulations.

 

[Barneyrfd]

Thanks. I'm sure your diary will turn out just fine.