Julien’s Upcoming Hero Phaser & Communicator Auction

[feek61]

Yes, the Conscience / Lenore / Riley is definitely in "Dagger of the Mind" with the short emitter. The scene was filmed on 8/15/66

 

[feek61]

KUROK - I was thinking the same thing after I saw the photos this morning provided by Dhan on his blog (THANKS DHAN! BTW) - it explains why (IMO) there is no gap between the back of the P1 and P2 rear deck now. And to be clear the P1 release mechanism locking bar ( the stud on the flapper that holds the P1 in place see drawing below) is missing now. You can see the stud in the Court photo below.

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What does this have to do with pushing the P2 emitter out? I don't understand how that back P1 release can make the emitter retract with the P1 in place. Please explain.

 

[AdmiralBaxter]

To my recollection, this phaser is only seen it "Conscience of the King" and "The Galileo Seven." Could be that phasers that followed were more refined and were used more, none more BTW than TMOST which seemingly was the star of the four phasers since it had more screen time and was also featured in the TMOST book. It stands to reason that they would pick the best one to photograph. Interesting that the Conscience / Lenore / Ripley was seen early on in the episodes (after the conversion) and in the early promo shots; probably because it was the first completed and delivered to the studio making it the only one available at the time. The invoice for the conversion is dated 8/22/66 which coincides with the first day of filming of "Miri" followed directly by "Conscience of the King" and then "Galileo Seven." The invoice was not actually paid until a month later on 9/22/66 so was it standard for payment to take a month or was the order not delivered in full until sometime in between. Unfortunately, we will probably never know the answer. I will have to go back and look but I believe there is a hero in "Dagger of the Mind" which was filmed on 8/9/66 which would mean they were delivered much earlier than the invoice. We do know that the Conscience / Lenore / Riley was never featured again, in either promos or in the episodes which does imply it was the worst of the 4 hero phasers.

I found this hero near the end of "Dagger Of The Mind

 

[TOS Phaser]

I think the production may have liked the longer emitters because the later midgrades were all longer than the heros.

You can see the longer emitter was one of Matt's design features in his P2 working drawing. In fact the first "highly detailed dummy phasers we see in "Devil in the Dark" reflect this emitter length.

 

[newworld]

Just my personal opinion: The short emitter may just be the spring-loaded catch is not installed yet or is damaged.

 

[TOS Phaser]

What does this have to do with pushing the P2 emitter out? I don't understand how that back P1 release can make the emitter retract with the P1 in place. Please explain.

The P1 latch bar spring (under the 10 turn box) pulls back on the flapper bar that the P1 lock bar is attached to.

 

[Gregatron]

It's entirely possible that the brass block on the P2 emitter (which the front of the P1 engages when inserted into the P2) was either missing or was attached to the emitter at a different spot on the Lenore than on the other phasers, thus causing it to not extend as far out.

 

[AdmiralBaxter]

Yes, the Conscience / Lenore / Riley is definitely in "Dagger of the Mind" with the short emitter. The scene was filmed on 8/15/66

We are overlooking the possibility of it simply being built with a shorter emitter and IF it was built first it would explain why later phasers were built with longer emitters.

 

[AdmiralBaxter]

It's entirely possible that the brass block on the P2 emitter (which the front of the P1 engages when inserted into the P2) was either missing or was attached to the emitter at a different spot on the Lenore than on the other phasers, thus causing it to not extend as far out.

It makes more sense that it simply had a shorter emitter.

 

[TOS Phaser]

Spock carried the Finney P2 (IMO) on his gold pistol belt in the "Enemy Within". Note: No forward screw near nozzle. Also the P1shown is the "Lost" P1 with Velcro on the left side. The "Lost" P1 was shaped like the TMOST P1.

 

[newworld]

Could be that phasers that followed were more refined and were used more, none more BTW than TMOST which seemingly was the star of the four phasers since it had more screen time and was also featured in the TMOST book. It stands to reason that they would pick the best one to photograph.

In my head I have dubbed the Julien's piece the "King Phaser" for obvious reasons. We see it in all three seasons (the only one) and apparently it never got Velcroed. I think they took the prettiest one and assigned it to close-up work, period. When I audited all three seasons for Phaser Hero use I was stunned (yeah, I said it) to find that the heroes virtually disappeared after Season 1 with the exceptions being the few close-ups that we know. And even then, In OG, Tracy's Phaser Close-up is a Mid. Same in Spock's Brain. The fact that they brought back The King for one last use in TCM is astonishing luck for guys like us. From what I've been able to gather TCM is the one and only Hero appearance in Season 3. If anyone has better info, please LMK.

 

[TOS Phaser]

t makes more sense that it simply had a shorter emitter.

Are you talking about the "Lenore / Riley" or the "Finney" P2? If you are talking about the "Lenore / Riley" P2 then please disregard my posts. I thought KUROK was talking about the "Finney".

 

[AdmiralBaxter]

Are you talking about the "Lenore / Riley" or the "Finney" P2? If you are talking about the "Lenore / Riley" P2 then please disregard my posts. I thought KUROK was talking about the "Finney".

The "Lenore / Riley" of course... I just figure the simplest solution in this case is probably the correct one.

 

[TOS Phaser]

In my head I have dubbed the Julien's piece the "King Phaser".

I agree - the "Finney" P2 was filmed more than any other P2 - including IMO in "Shore Leave". Agreed the TMOST never got Velcro on the left side. However contrary to what many believe there was a fourth Hero P1. It is listed in the Desilu Inventory. And there is a shot of both Kirk and Spock with Hero P2s on their gold belts in the "The Man Trap".

The following cap from episode 6, "The Man Trap" at approximately 32.X min reflects two Hero P2s hanging on two gold pistol belts:

This is the first combat scene on the planet - where Captain Kirk and Spock are confronting Dr. Crater.

And here is another cap a second later:

And Spock pulls his hero off of his belt:

I think, after careful observation of the first season episodes, where the Hero P2s are filmed - Hero P2s were worn on the gold belts until the Greg Jein fell off and was shattered on the set floor.

 

[TOS Phaser]

The "Lenore / Riley" of course... I just figure the simplest solution in this case is probably the correct one.

Roger that.

 

[newworld]

I can imagine that the emitter extender assembly broke, and no one had time to sit down with it for three hours to fix or replace it. A "We'll get to it..." that never ended up getting got to.

I think this highly likely. The notion that one tip was shorter and no one grabbed another is possible but I think less likely to the idea that something with the P1 "cradle" went wrong but they could get it to extend a bit and labeled it "good enough". We'll never know for sure so its anyone's guess.

 

[TOS Phaser]

We are overlooking the possibility of it simply being built with a shorter emitter

I agree - I think the "Lenore / Riley" was built with a shorter emitter. You can see different emitter lengths on the B&W Hero P2s in episodes: 5, 6 and 7.
Case in point:

Kirk wears the "Lenore/Riley" on his belt in episode 6, while standing next to Spock on the planets surface.

Kirk holds the "Unknown" P2 in Engineering after pulling it off his gold belt while standing next to Spock.

 

[TOS Phaser]

Finally - I think all 4 Hero P2s with their respective P1s were filmed in episodes 5, 6 and 7. Two Hero P2s were for wearing and 2 Hero P2s without Velcro on the Hero P1s for closeups. You see this in episode 7 where Scotty wears the "Lenore/ Riley" P2 on his gold belt and then fires one of the Other Hero P2s with a Hero P1 without Velcro while cutting the bulkhead.

This is IMO the same Hero P2 Kirk is wearing on his gold belt in episode 6. See Photo in my previous post.

I have always thought this P2 is the "Finney" P2.

 

[TOS Phaser]

Also - someone posted a photo of Robn1s scratch build P2 in this thread - and I did not realize they were talking about him in the past tense until the next day? Has Robn1 passed?

 

[AdmiralBaxter]

Also - someone posted a photo of Robn1s scratch build P2 in this thread - and I did not realize they were talking about him in the past tense until the next day? Has Robn1 passed?

He's still around as far as I know