How was Vader's helmet modified from ANH to ESB to ROTJ
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My opinion on the lens is that these are the originals. People remember them warmer than they actually were. Not to say there wasnt a warm tint there to begin with but that could also fade with age. Reds and warm tints are the fastest tints to fade.
As for the helmet itself. you are correct about the re-paint. This is the only ANH screen used helmet and it had a bit of a refurbishment and a paint job ( on top of the already existing paint) before the Chronicles photoshoot.
That's what this place is all about.
Here's another photo of the page from the first book which shows the color more accurately as it appears when looking at the book. The first photo I posted was taken with an iphone and it put a bit of a blue tint on it for some reason.
Here's another photo of the page from the first book which shows the color more accurately as it appears when looking at the book. The first photo I posted was taken with an iphone and it put a bit of a blue tint on it for some reason.
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Its been MIA. I dont think there is any record of it after it was out on tour with Eller.
Which I still find so odd, that the dome was separated from the face mask. Unless something catastrophic happened to it and it was damaged beyond repair, or it was repurposed by by LFL. In which case we will never really know about it. Would be amazing if it turned up hidden in another collection.
Every cast I've ever seen made, in my hands or in countless photos, have been cast with a black or green resin fiberglass.
The original looks like it was made with a white resin fiberglass. And this is would make sense, as the Boba Fett helmets, from what I remember, were also cast with white resin fiberglass. So there's a LFL production consistency there.
Another note - based on the shadows of the teeth, the UK mold seems to be more accurate in terms of the depth of the teeth (referencing the SL vs. the TM for comparison). The teeth on the SL are definitely thinner on the run (read - not original SL pull from the RB mold). ...Not sure if that's just the way the mold was made when the original SL was recast for it's run - or that's an inherent trait in the RB mold itself.
The original looks like it was made with a white resin fiberglass. And this is would make sense, as the Boba Fett helmets, from what I remember, were also cast with white resin fiberglass. So there's a LFL production consistency there.
Another note - based on the shadows of the teeth, the UK mold seems to be more accurate in terms of the depth of the teeth (referencing the SL vs. the TM for comparison). The teeth on the SL are definitely thinner on the run (read - not original SL pull from the RB mold). ...Not sure if that's just the way the mold was made when the original SL was recast for it's run - or that's an inherent trait in the RB mold itself.
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First off I wanna thank everyone for posting their knowledge on the screen used vader helmets in this thread. I've had general knowledge about this helmet who sculpted it etc for a while but its good to know where the lineage replica's came from.
My question is, looking at the graph posted a few pages back, why is the SL more sought after than the DJ helmet? Where they both recast from a rick baker mold pull? or is the DJ recast from a SL? Because the SL seems impossible to get ahold of these day but the DJ is still widely available? Or am I missing something?
My question is, looking at the graph posted a few pages back, why is the SL more sought after than the DJ helmet? Where they both recast from a rick baker mold pull? or is the DJ recast from a SL? Because the SL seems impossible to get ahold of these day but the DJ is still widely available? Or am I missing something?
Its "sought after" because they are not being made any more. Only 26 pr 27 were made.
study the graph. The original SL, Original DJ, Original JCF and the EFX master( not the limited or the legend EFX people got) came from the US mold. They are not re-cast of each other.
and there wont be much to read on it for a while.
All will come out when the time is right.
The DJ was painted, covering up details. Not sure if there was a run in past, DJ, DCarty, Juan and Vadermania can chime in there.
The current DJ run, from what I understand, and DJ or VaderMonkey can correct me if I’m wrong, is from a scan or mold made of the painted DJ helmet. A dome mounting ring was added to the of the faceplate, as well as inside the dome. That was not present on the original ANH helmet.
The original SL is still RAW, and not been sanded. Many of the details of the RB mold are still present in the SL. For this, the hardcore “detail and accuracy hunters” love helmets like the SL, TM and GS, where the original casts pulled from the original production molds were, in theory, untouched.
I’ll let others discuss what details “have not been removed, moved or added” to the individual casts for their particular runs.
xXLEELANDXx
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Understood, thanks for the info!
Has someone a real set or a cast of this 3 vintage 3M panels for the top of the mask?Wanna build a ANH mask now!
You ca find real ones on Ebay frequently. However the translucent kind are a bit of a mystery. Literaly the only ones I've ever seen are the ones on the real helmet. Everything else is solid color black. Exactly the same in shape, form, functionality, just different color (black).
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