Currency of the 'Verse...

No need for a new thread - I can host them. Don't know how I missed the request...

Mike - PM sent to you

Dave

Originally posted by Krel Jedi+Jan 23 2006, 08:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Krel Jedi @ Jan 23 2006, 08:55 PM)</div>
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The shape of things to come:

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I'm still looking for someone to host the scan of the original. Email or PM me if you can help.


-Mike
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Sith Sheriff Brody, Perhaps you should start a new thread stating your looking for someone to host these. Someone may be happy to do it but not be reading this post.

David.
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Actually, Angelus is hosting the scan of the original, a few posts back.

Those TV-style ones aren't finished yet — I do appreciate the offer, though.

All in good time.


-Mike
 
Originally posted by dr_slurpee@Jan 11 2006, 01:21 PM
I do plan to do a 50, I just have not decided on the colour scheme yet. Since people seem to want more denominations I might tackle a 5 and a 10 as well, if I can think up appropriate planets for the centre and good colour schemes.

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Gotta bump this thread.

Doc, have you thought more about doing the $5, $10 and possibly even the lowly $1? I'd really love to see a "complete" set of currency.
 
Yep still thinking about the 10 for sure, maybe a 5 and 1 also. It's all a matter of finding time. If I can get them done soon then I can add them to my at cost currency interest thread as well. :)
 
Anyone else try that email that was on that? I tried to email to be included when there is updates but it bounced back. :unsure
 
I haven't seen the movie, but these look very cool.

Was there different colors for the same denomination or were they all the same color?

Does anyone have a hires version of the 100 and 500?

thanks and great work..

FB
 
Only the 100s & 500s were seen in the movie, and are differrent colors--the rest are "customs".

A couple of people are hosting hi-res versions--there should be links to all of the ones seen in this thread a couple of pages back. WARNING: these are hi-res and on dial-up are about 40 minute downloads each. ;)
 
I found the 100 and 500's on another site.

Thanks..

So the 20, 50, and 1,000's are all custom made by the members here?

Wow, Nice Job Guys..

FB
 
Originally posted by Sith Sheriff Brody@Jan 17 2006, 08:57 PM
Gentlemen (and ladies), I give you the origin: Bhutan's 1 Ngultrum note of 1986.
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These are pretty easy to find. I just got a bunch for .50 each.
Pretty cool.

FB
 
Has anyone seen the 2-ngul...whatever note?

I'm thinking the colors are close enough it *might* have been the basis of the series notes. What do you think?

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The signature is incorrect, the border pattern is different, and the sides are extended.

In the scans from "The Making Of", you can see that part of the signature remains underneath the planets design; it is the end of the 'dashed' signature on the 1 note — I haven't seen an example of that signature on a 2 note.

The patterned border of the 2 note is also different than the 1; it looks to be more complex and narrower in the proportions of the wavy lines than the scans of the movie notes.

Comparing the far left & right edges, one can see the 2 appears to be wider than the 1, and with different 'swirlies'.


-Mike
 
I have an update for those seeking more custom Serenity bills. I have finished my 10 note and am now working on a 5000 and 10000 note. As I mentioned in my at cost thread, the 10000 will have the moon on it which I am treating as the Serenity future's commemeration of man's first step on another celestial body.

Anyway, I thought I would expand on why I chose to make a 5000 and 10000 denomination note rather than making ones lower than 10. The way I look at it is that "cash" has a low value and thus hich denomination bills. Also, for me to keep in with the design choices I made for the bills a 1, 2, and 5 note would look bad. Back to what I was saying about value. Since the 100 and 500 notes are what are seen in the movie, in the bar and such it stands to reason that either drinks are REALLY expensive or the cash value of the notes is low. I know it's been mentioned that Alliance credits are worth more than platinum but these bills aren't Alliance credits, they represent "cashy money" as Mal puts it before the heist. Also I figured anything less than 10 people would just use coins for.

So, anyone else thing my choice and my logic is ok?

Oh, pics of my new bills and high res versions will be available soon enough.
 
Just based on what little I know, it seems to make sense as to what Namebrand said about the denominations being larger. Especially if they are trying to equivilate to 'credits' which are supposed to be more valuable than platinum.

If Platinum is worth 'X' ammount of money, and Credits are worth more than platinum, then higher denominations of money will be needed to equal one credit, which I am assuming is the standard monitary unit for this 'verse.
 
On the other hand, Mal was paid for an entire herd of cattle with a small pouch of coins and a not-so-huge wad of bills. It would take a briefcase full of American currency to make such a payment.
 
Currency valuation depends greatly upon current inflation rates of the system they are based upon.

Several years back I had the opportunity to visit Rio de Janeiro, Brazil while assigned to the USS Constellation. We were warned about the sky-high inflation rates there and that their current currency was almost worthless and that the government had marked notes with a stamp indicating that it was worth approximately 1,000 times less than the original face value. Valuation of currency was done on a daily basis. Cruzado and Cruzerios (now the Brazillian Real) were the two types in circculation and other than a small 1 inch stamp from the government they were identical... SO... Many people ended up with worthless money when accepting change that wasn't checked closely.

Why did I bother typing all this? Just to prove the point that it's very likely that the value of a beer in the Serinity universe may just be 500 credits. It's also possible that the coins were worth more. Just as in the US where a single gold coin is worth a huge stack of "paper". ;)
 
I think it's one of those things just just got overlooked in production.. I think the notes were originally meant to be credit notes, of a similar value as mentioned in "Arial" -- 100s and 500s then makes sense for a payroll, especially on a backwater where there ain't many supply ships coming through too often. A couple month's pay for say two or three dozen security types and their officers (maybe considerable more, scattered all over the moon and perhaps a couple other local bodies) adds up awful fast. A sweet take indeed. :)

Then I'd imagine someone saw the bills that were made up for the heist and thought they'd make good set dressing for the Maidenhead scene... leading to all sorts of guessing on our part.


Also, remember values are somewhat fluid in the 'verse, what with different currencies all intermingling.. credits in the Core, metals on the rim.. prolly a few local currencies as well (the dollars of Jaynestown for instance).
(source, Serenity RPG, source material vetted by Joss)

Had they the budget and time to do it all from scratch, I'd imagine the typical bag of loot for the travelers of the 'verse to have a mix of several different makes of bullion coins (prolly privately minted on the border worlds and shipped out for use on the rim), private banknotes redeemable in coin from various borderworld and rimworld banks (as was the case on the US frontier in the old west), and Alliance credits.. possibly notes, but more likely a "live" ATM-type card.. capable of handling basic transactions via something like RFID and using similar tech to Badger's "bulletin" from the pilot.

But that's just a guess. :)


-L
 
No doubt it's probably something that was overlooked, but as for the notes being Alliance credit notes I don't think they are the same credits that are mentioned as being worth more than platinum. Mal says before the heist that they don't use Alliance credits to pay the security, they use cash.

At any rate, how do you guys feel about my choice in making the higher denominations?
 
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