Been researching an accurate color Nostromo t-shirt for a while. No luck finding the wider collar style at all.
I've posted this comparison pic before showing Gildan Avocado and the color I thought was closer--Kiwi.
But I think I found a closer color match. The color name is Clover and the label is Inspired DYE by NEXT LEVEL.
I've posted this comparison pic before showing Gildan Avocado and the color I thought was closer--Kiwi.
But I think I found a closer color match. The color name is Clover and the label is Inspired DYE by NEXT LEVEL.
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I'm trying to make my own replica of Ripley's shoes and while comparing them with vintage PF Flyers I realized there's this ridge next to the shoelaces I can't figure out.
I sketched out what it looks like to me - either it's two layers of fabric being layered, or simply a raised seam (possibly even added as a modification to the shoe). There are PF Flyers with all three of these construction methods and I just can't figure out which one would be the correct one. Do any of you guys know what this ridge is and how it was constructed? I feel like I'm going bananas staring at this seam for so long lol
[Edit: am apparently so ready for bed I kept spelling PF as PJ, fixed now]
I sketched out what it looks like to me - either it's two layers of fabric being layered, or simply a raised seam (possibly even added as a modification to the shoe). There are PF Flyers with all three of these construction methods and I just can't figure out which one would be the correct one. Do any of you guys know what this ridge is and how it was constructed? I feel like I'm going bananas staring at this seam for so long lol
[Edit: am apparently so ready for bed I kept spelling PF as PJ, fixed now]
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joberg
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Option 3 for surePajama Flyers
I can't say for certain (not owning vintage PF), but based on my [current version] PFs, it's Option 3 [from your drawing].
Thanks for the input everybody! After spending another two hours or so staring at these shoes I'm pretty convinced that septic and joberg are right and that the ridge is actually the edge of the material used to reinforce the eyestay. (I think it's called "eyestay" anyway, I mean the bit with the eyelets the laces normally go through.)
I think you can make out at least two layers in the reinforcing material and it looks thicker than other examples of PF Flyers I could find online so I'm thinking costuming might have added additional reinforcing layers to the eyestay themselves. Here's the layers:
And here are some 1960s PF Flyers I found online for comparison, note how thin the eyestay reinforcing material is on these compared to Ripley's shoe:
(On that note, I think they might have removed the hemming around the topline of the shoe. There should be a pretty distinct straight shadow there where the hem normally is but instead that part is just flat and so thin that the ridges of the socks are showing through. Really not sure on that one, though.)
For what it's worth, Dallas' shoe seems to be either option 1 or 2 - either the eyestay is one layer below the rest of the fabric making up the shoe, or the eyestay and the rest of the fabric are one continuous piece of fabric with an additional thin strip of fabric sewn on top as a sort of bias tape. So Banzai88 is also sort of correct!
I think you can make out at least two layers in the reinforcing material and it looks thicker than other examples of PF Flyers I could find online so I'm thinking costuming might have added additional reinforcing layers to the eyestay themselves. Here's the layers:
And here are some 1960s PF Flyers I found online for comparison, note how thin the eyestay reinforcing material is on these compared to Ripley's shoe:
(On that note, I think they might have removed the hemming around the topline of the shoe. There should be a pretty distinct straight shadow there where the hem normally is but instead that part is just flat and so thin that the ridges of the socks are showing through. Really not sure on that one, though.)
For what it's worth, Dallas' shoe seems to be either option 1 or 2 - either the eyestay is one layer below the rest of the fabric making up the shoe, or the eyestay and the rest of the fabric are one continuous piece of fabric with an additional thin strip of fabric sewn on top as a sort of bias tape. So Banzai88 is also sort of correct!
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QWho, has your research included any other brands of shoes from the era? I'm in the camp looking at it as a seam for the placate (option 3). These examples are no more a match for the screen-used than the Flyers are, but they are all vintage (1920 to 1980) and do show similar construction. I think the Forward Brand Basketball Boots (a Chinese brand from the 1950s) does a nice job showing how they trimmed the edge. The last photo is the brand and style worn by Dallas.
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Whoop whoop. Patch work has officially begun. I’ve been wearing this jacket a lot lately. This week it finally got warm enough in Texas to not need a coat (weird to write, haha). Took advantage of the time and sewed on a patch
Toa Quarax
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Thanks for the input everybody! After spending another two hours or so staring at these shoes I'm pretty convinced that septic and joberg are right and that the ridge is actually the edge of the material used to reinforce the eyestay. (I think it's called "eyestay" anyway, I mean the bit with the eyelets the laces normally go through.)
I think you can make out at least two layers in the reinforcing material and it looks thicker than other examples of PF Flyers I could find online so I'm thinking costuming might have added additional reinforcing layers to the eyestay themselves. Here's the layers:
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And here are some 1960s PF Flyers I found online for comparison, note how thin the eyestay reinforcing material is on these compared to Ripley's shoe:
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(On that note, I think they might have removed the hemming around the topline of the shoe. There should be a pretty distinct straight shadow there where the hem normally is but instead that part is just flat and so thin that the ridges of the socks are showing through. Really not sure on that one, though.)
For what it's worth, Dallas' shoe seems to be either option 1 or 2 - either the eyestay is one layer below the rest of the fabric making up the shoe, or the eyestay and the rest of the fabric are one continuous piece of fabric with an additional thin strip of fabric sewn on top as a sort of bias tape. So Banzai88 is also sort of correct!
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Here's what that area looks like on a version of the shoes that I think they used in Alien:
I'm pretty sure I've identified them, but I'm trying to see if I can get pictures of the yellow version that were painted for the film:
Hope it helps!
I haven't really looked into any other brands but your photos definitely make me think option 3 is the most likely sincs that seems to be the most common option. Makes sense that that's the most common way of doing it, it lets you reinforce the high-stress area of the eyelets as much as you like without having to change your main pattern to accomodate the additional bulk.
Oh wow, that shoe is an exact match, down to the rifling on the front "bumper". I never would've guessed the reinforcing material is beige! Is that an unmodded shoe or has it been modified, and either way what brand is it?
Do the crew's green t-shirts have any patches or lettering on them? According the "Authorized Portfolio of Crew Insignias" the Nostromo patches with the dark background are supposed to be applied to t-shirts as well as the white-on-green wings being supposed to be applied to all inner- and casual wear, but I can't find any photo/video evidence of it in the film.
Agreed. A few photos of Parker show him without the shirt and I can't see any other patches or lettering.Never saw pics from the movie or other showing any kind of insignia or logo on the T-shirt
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division 6
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Lambert and Kane's cream tees had them.
Wow. Never noticed those shirts myself.
They’re pretty cool looking.
They’re pretty cool looking.
