Spiderman web shooter: A collaborative project.

[Faltering Hero]

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LED is short for Light Emitting Diode. When you apply an electric current, it lights up! In this case I chose green LED's to fill up the fluid meter. I'm simply holding the leads of the LED's against a button cell battery. :thumbsup

oh is that going to be implemented into your magnet system? cuz I still don't exactly see how'd you'd be able to control that xP

 

[Hexvas]

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oh is that going to be implemented into your magnet system? cuz I still don't exactly see how'd you'd be able to control that xP

Control which part?
The battery is the power source and the LED(s) are what is being powered to make it light. The reed switch is essentially inserted "in-line" between the negative lead of the LED and the negative connection/end of the battery. So when there is no magnetic force to close the circuit it stays off. When a magnet is brought to the reed switch the inner pieces of the reed switch connect, complete the circuit and make the LED light.

Here's a nice little website that can help explain it too.
K&J Magnetics Blog

 

[Faltering Hero]

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Control which part?
The battery is the power source and the LED(s) are what is being powered to make it light. The reed switch is essentially inserted "in-line" between the negative lead of the LED and the negative connection/end of the battery. So when there is no magnetic force to close the circuit it stays off. When a magnet is brought to the reed switch the inner pieces of the reed switch connect, complete the circuit and make the LED light.

Here's a nice little website that can help explain it too.
K&J Magnetics Blog

oh okay thanks, that helps a lot

 

[Faltering Hero]

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sorry did a double post.. lol

 

[Hexvas]

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oh okay thanks, that helps a lot

No problem .

 

[nlschutd]

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that came out good!

Allright folks, fun update tonight!
I played with the base a bit and retrofit it to accept some LED's. :love

Basically I drilled some holes with my drill press and used my Dremel to carve out some space in the bottom. They're not perfectly aligned but it works for me. I then super glued the LED's in place.
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and you know I just had to light it up!
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[InfiniTTTy]

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I'm going to try printing these pieces out of my Ultimaker to see how they turn out.

Excited!

 

[Progendev]

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I think when he said 'control' it he was probably referring to the eventual (I'm hoping?) red LEDs that light up when you press the palms of the glove *thwip*

Anyway, awesome progress squirrel! This looks freaking great!

 

[saecrow]

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Yea, the place I work at has an awesome electronics repair area that happened to have this particular part in stock.


They're available at most any online electronic supply store. Sparkfun has them for $1.50. Smaller the better in this case :thumbsup It's one of those situations where you have a lot of room, but you really don't.
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8642


This is just a switch, no more different than an on/off button. A reed switch is basically two small slivers of metal encapsulated in a glass vial. When it comes in contact with a magnet, the two metal slivers contact each other; completing the connection.


Simple answer is by wire. :lol But this is just one individual component out of several others. The sum of these components is what makes a circuit.


Yes! Well, not the lens itself, but in that compartment there will be one or two red LED's around the chip that will illuminate.


That's because you can do it and it really is that easy!

Excellent! Thanks for all the answers.... this is going to be cool!

 

[spiderteen911]

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Heres an idea I came up using the palm trigger to light up the red LED. Drew up a concept. When the wrist is ****** making Spider-Man web shooter pose, the plastic trigger pushes the bottom battery w/ LED stems attached on the top & bottom against the back of the nozzle (once modified), lighting up the red LED. The only problem with this is keeping the LED and battery still and in place at all times w/o falling apart. What do you guys think?

 

[Faltering Hero]

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Heres an idea I came up using the palm trigger to light up the red LED. Drew up a concept. When the wrist is ****** making Spider-Man web shooter pose, the plastic trigger pushes the bottom batter w/ LED stems attached on the top & bottom against the back of the nozzle (once modified), lighting up the red LED. The only problem with this is keeping the LED and battery still and in place at all times w/o falling apart. What do you guys think?

that's not a bad idea. but, you have to think about all the positions our hand makes. like for instance when getting up from a table, we usually place our hands on the desk and lift ourselves up. it could ruin the system if we put too much pressure on it.

What I thought was brilliant in Peter Parker's design was that he just created a circuit piece that controlled it w/ buttons at the end of the wire(?) that extended out to his palm. It sort of reminded me of a pressure switch from a laser dot that the military uses (airsoft made a replica), where the laser is mounted on the gun and the pressure switch is out on the grip of the gun. If we can find a way to figure out how that system worked, I think it could work a lot better and more consistently.

Another thing to think about is when you place your hand flat on a table, you'll notice the center of your palm isn't really touching the surface. That's probably another thing that Parker thought of when making his web shooters.

Edit:

I actually came across this while looking at other people's model of their own web shooter. This kid somehow managed to make the light up system work out of his 'bottle cap' body web shooter lol. The only question now is how do we implement it? If anyone knows how this works, it'd be awesome for you to let us know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_732212&feature=iv&src_vid=DrotYTEk_8w&v=OI0nUujbwuo

 

[Kevin Gossett]

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He's just using a switch at the end of the grip. When the button is pushed, the circuit is complete and lights the LED (just as squirrel mentioned earlier)

 

[epilepticsquirl]

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He's just using a switch at the end of the grip. When the button is pushed, the circuit is complete and lights the LED (just as squirrel mentioned earlier)

Exactly, it's just a button guys. No special circuity or anything; just a ribbon cable with a button attached to the end of it. If you have an iPhone you push the same button he used everyday.

 

[Randavian]

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that's not a bad idea. but, you have to think about all the positions our hand makes. like for instance when getting up from a table, we usually place our hands on the desk and lift ourselves up. it could ruin the system if we put too much pressure on it.

What I thought was brilliant in Peter Parker's design was that he just created a circuit piece that controlled it w/ buttons at the end of the wire(?) that extended out to his palm. It sort of reminded me of a pressure switch from a laser dot that the military uses (airsoft made a replica), where the laser is mounted on the gun and the pressure switch is out on the grip of the gun. If we can find a way to figure out how that system worked, I think it could work a lot better and more consistently.

Another thing to think about is when you place your hand flat on a table, you'll notice the center of your palm isn't really touching the surface. That's probably another thing that Parker thought of when making his web shooters.

Well, I know how I would do it (if I ever got around to building a webshooter of my own) since I've spent many hours contemplating it.

I know this is not exactly how the comics portrayed it, but.... (Hope I can explain this without a diagram) I would have one wire, which ends in a metal contact, coming out to the palm and then I would have another wire, with a metal contact, running along either of the two middle fingers (with the contact on the very tip of said figer). When the two metal contacts meet (finger to palm), it will close the circuit and trigger whatever needs triggering.

The pressure switch idea always bothered me because of the multitude of items one may pick up or do with a hand. Eventually, something would trigger the pressure switch just right.

Using the metal contacts, a person could do virtually anything with their hand and not trigger the web shooter mechanics. They could even hold a metal pipe without worry because the contact on the tip of the finger would not touch the pipe unless you purposely did so.

Thats my idea, anyway.

Edit: BTW, This idea is meant to be used inside the glove, which would hide the wire going up to the finger tip.

 

[Faltering Hero]

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Exactly, it's just a button guys. No special circuity or anything; just a ribbon cable with a button attached to the end of it. If you have an iPhone you push the same button he used everyday.

I just did some research and and thinking lol. I get it now thanks for the help guys.

I would have one wire, which ends in a metal contact, coming out to the palm and then I would have another wire, with a metal contact, running along either of the two middle fingers (with the contact on the very tip of said figer). When the two metal contacts meet (finger to palm), it will close the circuit and trigger whatever needs triggering.

The pressure switch idea always bothered me because of the multitude of items one may pick up or do with a hand. Eventually, something would trigger the pressure switch just right.

Using the metal contacts, a person could do virtually anything with their hand and not trigger the web shooter mechanics. They could even hold a metal pipe without worry because the contact on the tip of the finger would not touch the pipe unless you purposely did so.

Edit: BTW, This idea is meant to be used inside the glove, which would hide the wire going up to the finger tip.

I really like this idea. I think its brilliant actually, it takes care of most of the problems that you would run into with actually making these things work how you'd want it to work. For example, Spider-man crawls using his finger tips, so just having the trigger extend to the fingers won't be enough. And holding a pipe or so would cause unwanted web shooting lol. So having it so that they only activate when the two contacts meet, I think, is a great solution to the problem. I don't see it causing any problems with unwanted web shooting. I'm sorry for being redundant but I just had to express my thoughts on this lol. Kudos to you, good sir.

 

[Hexvas]

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Just got my second order in today, now I have a complete set . Now on to plan the electronics/details.

 

[epilepticsquirl]

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Just thought I'd touch briefly on how to properly prep and paint your shooters.
This question popped up a couple of times so I made sure to take pictures of some of the steps I used.

As you've no doubt noticed, the texture of the White Strong & Flexible polished prints leave a lot to be desired; it's by no means smooth. But with a little elbow grease we can soon fix that no problem. The secret to it all are three easily obtainable items.

• Spot Putty aka Glazing Putty
• Primer or Filler Primer (great for filling in those small holes)
• Sand Paper

These can all be found at your local wal-mart, home improvement store, or auto store.

First thing you need to do is apply a coat of the putty on the surface you want to smooth out, like so:
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Once applied, it'll air dry to a sand-able surface. Give it about 30 minutes to harden and then start attacking it with your sandpaper. I like to start with a 200 grit and work it all the way around.

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Here you can see the bezel and fluid cartridge after I sanded it some. You see how spots of the sruface are showing? That's pretty much what you want to see when sanding, though don't sand too deep. Remember, you're using the glazing putty to fill in the small stepping and imperfections left from the printing process.

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This time I sprayed black primer to see how i was doing. Looking a lot better but i still have more filling and sanding to go! At this point it's repeating the same process over and over until you are ultimately satisfied with the result. Don't rush it as this takes time if you want a nice smooth finish.

Once I was happy with how it turned out, I did a final sanding with 600 grit sandpaper to get rid of the smaller particles that the 300 couldn't. The finish will be a lot smoother than before; after this you can apply one more coat of primer, then your choice of color! Also, don't forget to add your clear coat to the shooters. You can choose a matte, semi-gloss, or glossy finish. The clear coat is what protects the paint from the elements. This was all done using spray paint.
The results can be quite satisfying, see!
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Now these are my results and I am satisfied with them. I could've spent several more hours sanding and puttying, sanding and puttying, etc. but I'm overall quite pleased with how they came out. Especially considering the rough texture it had before hand. Now I just have to wait for the paint to dry and I can tackle the electronics! :love

So remember!

1. Apply putty
2. Sand sand sand!
3. Spray primer
4. Repeat until satisfied
5. Sand with 600 grit or higher
6. Apply final coat of paint
7. Apply clear coat

Cheers! :cheers

 

[Faltering Hero]

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That is extremely helpful. I would've been dying of frustration if you hadn't posted this haha. I've never really painted anything other than my own guitar. Thank you

My only other question is, won't the surface of the shooters be a little sticky now that it's got paint on it? Or are you using some sort of paint that prevents that?

 

[epilepticsquirl]

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ah, that's what your final clear coat is for. :thumbsup
The clear coat protects the finish from scratches, fingerprints, etc. I'll add that in my post.

 

[Randavian]

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I really like this idea. I think its brilliant actually, it takes care of most of the problems that you would run into with actually making these things work how you'd want it to work. For example, Spider-man crawls using his finger tips, so just having the trigger extend to the fingers won't be enough. And holding a pipe or so would cause unwanted web shooting lol. So having it so that they only activate when the two contacts meet, I think, is a great solution to the problem. I don't see it causing any problems with unwanted web shooting. I'm sorry for being redundant but I just had to express my thoughts on this lol. Kudos to you, good sir.

Thank you. Like I said, I've thought about this quite abit over the years. The method is simple and has the least amount of risk of triggering anything when using your hands.