Beechy McFly
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Definitely noticeable, and easier to read..
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Definitely noticeable, and easier to read..
It was not clear enough for me before, but now I see that the forum threads which have new posts are easily distinguishable, as the icon for threads without new posts has more faded colors.
But for the forum index page it still isn't distinct enough. I wonder if the blue RPF logo with grey background might work as the icon for forum with new postings, though I understand if it's considered too bright with the overall page.
Excuse the crude example as I quickly made it up in MS Paint, it's not in scale with the original icons.
Vivek, we can easily do this. We simply didn't because the site is so busy that the front page would almost constantly be blue... and virtually never any grey. It is very useful at the threadlist level, but we felt it was unnecessary at the forum level.
msleeper
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The "content" area being displayed on board pages is a little ridiculous. When I go to view a board, a full page screen is filled with image/text/content that is not useful to me or what I am looking for.
On the main site landing page that can make sense I guess, and I realize that the notice will be going away eventually. But even then, at least 50% of the viewable page is covered with... absolutely nothing I care about or want to see.
Also, what is this big empty box supposed to be for and why does it empty out most of the actual board content?
Is there really supposed to be all of this white space on the right?
Screen caps taken in Firefox 20.0.1 in Windows 7.
On the main site landing page that can make sense I guess, and I realize that the notice will be going away eventually. But even then, at least 50% of the viewable page is covered with... absolutely nothing I care about or want to see.
Also, what is this big empty box supposed to be for and why does it empty out most of the actual board content?
Is there really supposed to be all of this white space on the right?
Screen caps taken in Firefox 20.0.1 in Windows 7.
Good deal. Gino is wanting to explore other font options, but the thing is, a Mac is almost always going to render a thicker font than a PC so I am not sure we are ever going to find a clear, legible font that looks identical on all platforms. I think darkening the text and increasing the font size should make it legible for everyone.
When you use an ad blocker, yup, that is how it should look!
Got it, so the icons are already set to being constant without any change irrespective of updated threads.
But during odd times it does help to quickly jump to certain forums from the index page if there is indication of new activity, without resorting to New Posts button all the time. If not blue, then perhaps the grey and faded grey format similar to the thread list could be implemented.
Also, as a note, we are using Verdana as the primary font within texts (using Century Gothic for headers), which is pretty typical for a web font.
Got it, so the icons are already set to being constant without any change irrespective of updated threads.
But during odd times it does help to quickly jump to certain forums from the index page if there is indication of new activity, without resorting to New Posts button all the time. If not blue, then perhaps the grey and faded grey format similar to the thread list could be implemented.
We can certainly revisit that. It isn't a difficult change.
msleeper
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If that's the case, then why not name that div layer to conform with ad blocking standards, so that there isn't wasted whitespace?
Per your other thread where you explain the purpose of the "featured" bar and describe it as an advertisement, why not name that rotating image and div layer to confirm with ad blocking standards as well?
Jannix Quinn
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The text in quoted boxes is still hard to read on iPad. Can't access a PC at the moment. If you darken the text in quote boxes to the same as outside the quote boxes, it should be good.
Not sure I follow what you are asking.
Yeah... we have only modified the basic text in posts so far. We wanted to get one to a point where the majority of people feel it is easily legible and then work our way out from there. The funny thing is, in all the testing we did, not one person complained about legibility... but you live and learn.
We are starting with the postbit text (the text you are reading now) and going to reverse engineer the rest of our text from that to make sure the majority of people have no issues with legibility.
GINO
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Unfortunately it looks like the answer is no though I would give anything to make it so. :cry
We're just now coming to the realization with how terrible windows platform is at rendering type vs mac platform.
This is an issue that is new to me because believe it or not, I've never owned a Windows based computer and have only ever had to use one on the rare occasions where I had to quickly print something out on one of the self-serve stations at a FedEx/Kinkos.
Makes it so difficult to design across platforms without having both in front of you to check for quality (which is a damn shame that one should even have to). Quality font rendering should be universal regardless of which platform people use.
This issue makes me want to find Bill Gates, take him to my basement, tie him to a chair, pull his fingernails out with pliers, then pour salt on them (regardless of whether or not he is directly responsible). :lol
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msleeper
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Adblock plus (and presumably other ad blocking browser plugins) will automatically hide page elements whose names fit certain criteria, IE giving a div layer an id of "sidebar_ad" instead of "sidebar_container". The actual Google Ads advertisement is already being blocked, but because the sidebar div layer isn't named to match that it's an advertisement, you get what you see in my screenshot: an empty box.
Now it's easy enough to add a custom filter for the sidebar ad box, but then we're running into a new problem. The "sidebar_container" div layer is not set to be a floating element ("float: right") and we end up with this.
The empty box is gone, but the board content is set to a fixed width (either "content_container" or "content" divs, not sure which just yet) so there is still going to be whitespace there.
In short, what I am asking is, name the advertisement div layers to something that will be properly filtered by ad blockers, and set the "sidebar_container" div layer to float so that the board area will not have empty whitespace.
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I think the real problem is that the div layer "content" inside "content_container" has a fixed width and fixed margins. Removing the forced margins (and adding custom ad blocking rules for the other advertisements) fixes the problem completely.
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So... you are asking me if I will better support you in not supporting the site...
msleeper
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Correct me if I'm wrong but per another post of yours (either in this thread, or in the other thread) but you said premium members will be able to minimize the sidebar, but not get rid of it entirely. As I don't have a premium membership I can't confirm for myself, but does the whitespace there still appear when the sidebar is hidden? I edited my post above to say this but it seems the issue of the right side whitespace isn't a floating problem but a problem with fixed widths and margins. So unless your theme dynamically writes the CSS based on standard versus premium viewers, I'm assuming the answer is yes.
Out of curiosity, what percentage of visitor useragents are reporting using Adblock Plus? I'm not a big vBulletin user myself but I'm sure it reports viewer usage somewhere.
Out of curiosity, what percentage of visitor useragents are reporting using Adblock Plus? I'm not a big vBulletin user myself but I'm sure it reports viewer usage somewhere.
EvilRocketeer
Master Member
that defeats the purpose of the ads on the rpf..
ads help the site run with the revenue gained by the people using the ads.....
if you make it easier on members cheating the system, then the majority of members will use the ad blocker rather than purchasing the premium membership which helps the site run as well.....
you will be bleeding the rpf of it's revenue....running the rpf isnt cheap.....and premium membership is optional....
the rpf is a free resource for costumers, prop enthusiasts, and movie entertainment fanatics....the only thing you have to deal with is the ads which is minimal compared to the pros the rpf offers...
in short, members should just deal with it....
people need to realize that ads help the site...and skipping past it is not a big problem....hell, i rather skip over the ads here than deal with a 30 second youtube ad just to see a 10 second video!
Risu
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I wouldn't necessarily say PCs are not as good at rendering fonts, it's just a different style. For example with the RPF font, the Mac style is thicker and easier to read in this instance. The PC style is sleek. In this instance, Mac wins out. This is coming from a guy who's used Windows PCs his whole life except for those rare instances where I was working on a project in film school or had to check my email on a girlfriend's laptop. (why don't girls ever use PCs? Is that a thing?)
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