Firefox MIG-31 movie aircraft

The OP doesn't respond to posts on this forum, but still goes online here from time to time. The fact that at least one member here hasn't heard from him, and has had a deposit with him for three years, is concerning. Even if he did respond, I don't think it would be wise to chance giving him your money unless a model is ready to be shipped. This way there is some sort of buyer protection via PayPal.

TazMan2000
 
I'll confess that I'm mainly posting in this thread in hopes that TazMan2000's suggestion from last year-

Is Jon also known as Firefox3D?
He last logged in last Saturday.

Perhaps anybody who has a deposit on this should follow your lead and post a message here to see how far he is behind and how many people are waiting for their orders.

TazMan2000

might bear fruit... even if it's increasingly looking like Firefox3D will continue to just ghost this thread. Its been my dream (and I know for pretty much everyone else here) to one day own an actual movie-accurate recreation of the MiG-31 Firefox, and I do hope that Firefox3D either shows back up to take orders again, or provides the 3D Files on a store so that we can buy the files and print it on our own because every image of this Firefox beats all other existing MiG-31's available on the internet and it'd be a crime for it to just... fade back into the ether.

Am I just preaching to the choir or yelling into the void? I hope not. Though I'm under no delusions of this working either.

TL;DR: Another hopeful customer is resurrecting this thread in the vain hopes that this Firefox can see the light of day again.
 
I'll confess that I'm mainly posting in this thread in hopes that TazMan2000's suggestion from last year-



might bear fruit... even if it's increasingly looking like Firefox3D will continue to just ghost this thread. Its been my dream (and I know for pretty much everyone else here) to one day own an actual movie-accurate recreation of the MiG-31 Firefox, and I do hope that Firefox3D either shows back up to take orders again, or provides the 3D Files on a store so that we can buy the files and print it on our own because every image of this Firefox beats all other existing MiG-31's available on the internet and it'd be a crime for it to just... fade back into the ether.

Am I just preaching to the choir or yelling into the void? I hope not. Though I'm under no delusions of this working either.

TL;DR: Another hopeful customer is resurrecting this thread in the vain hopes that this Firefox can see the light of day again.

There is another thread from a long time ago, but the user was banned (I think it was his own choosing, if I remember correctly) who created a large 3D printable model. 1/18 Firefox

There is always hope if there is enough interest. There are many good 3D artists here, and I'm surprised with the interest on this aircraft that another artist hasn't stepped up to create this. I might take a shot at this myself, but I have so many projects on the go and little room, not to mention that my skills need improving before I can tackle something so "organically mechanical" (or mechanically organic) with the shape of the airframe.

Perhaps someone can entice very accomplished resident 3d artists like laellee IzzyMel & paulsboutique & others, to take a stab at designing this.

TazMan2000
 
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Perhaps someone can entice very accomplished resident 3d artists like laellee IzzyMel & paulsboutique & others, to take a stab at designing this.

TazMan2000

HAAHAHAHAHA What are the chances.... I was just catching up on this thread when the notification came up. I had no idea he had gone AWOL/whatever. I never pursued this one because of all the work that had already been put in here; it never makes sense to me to remodel something that's done so well the first time. Having said that, sounds like this is an exception? I won't be freed up for a couple of weeks, but I'd be in.

(On that note, working on the T2 project this week and will have an update shortly. I did see the the Julien's pics as well, if you want to send me over any observations (y) )
 
HAAHAHAHAHA What are the chances.... I was just catching up on this thread when the notification came up. I had no idea he had gone AWOL/whatever. I never pursued this one because of all the work that had already been put in here; it never makes sense to me to remodel something that's done so well the first time. Having said that, sounds like this is an exception? I won't be freed up for a couple of weeks, but I'd be in.

(On that note, working on the T2 project this week and will have an update shortly. I did see the the Julien's pics as well, if you want to send me over any observations (y) )

I would never recommend a member to step on someone's toes on making something in parallel with another member, but the OP was only planning on releasing physical models, and if I'm not mistaken, there is a lot of interest in a 3D printable model. Perhaps you can start a thread to gauge interest to see if it would be worth the amount of work.

TazMan2000
 
I loved this movie as a kid , I can't count the number of times I saw it at the cinema.This would be a great project to tackle, alas i'd need to retire from work to find enough time to even catch up and clear my work bench for a project like this !!
 
I don't know if its a good consolation, but recently I found a guy on e-bay that 3d prints models of spaceships and planes. I wrote him asking if he was willing to do a model of Firefox in 1/18 scale. He said yes, and that he could do it larger or smaller. He appears on e-bay under the name,
iainmcpherson1966. He sent me some photos of Firefox models he made in the past. I hope this could be of any help.
 

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I don't know if its a good consolation, but recently I found a guy on e-bay that 3d prints models of spaceships and planes. I wrote him asking if he was willing to do a model of Firefox in 1/18 scale. He said yes, and that he could do it larger or smaller. He appears on e-bay under the name,
iainmcpherson1966. He sent me some photos of Firefox models he made in the past. I hope this could be of any help.

Unfortunately, unless iainmcpherson1996 is CGmorph from CGTrader (Mig 31 Firefox Low Poly Scale model | 3D Print Model) or he has negotiated a license with CGmorph, he is "digital recasting", which is greatly frowned upon here.

The model on CGTrader is low poly, and remixed from this model on thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5626905 . It is nowhere close to being accurate. For a small toy that would be displayed on a shelf, it might be ok, but for a 1:18 scale, you can imagine how thick the panel separations would be. To me it looks like a tiled bathroom wall.

TazMan2000
 
Maybe the same situation with this other option, a studio scale Firefox that costs $2,900, but that doesn't look as good as the real studio model.
 

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Hi all,

Been a lurker here for a while, created a new account as couldn't remember my old one!

Always loved the Firefox plane after seeing the movie at age 14 in '82, thinking someone has got to do a kit of it, but it never happened. I picked up a Studio 2 kit many years later, but it was miles off right. I contacted Kurt at the thinkinrussian website about it and he kindly supplied me with 2D plans he had. Spent some considerable time working those into accurate vector (Coreldraw) drawings to make slices to build new sections for the Studio 2 model. In doing so realised how bad the Studio 2 kit was and after a week or two of work building a new nose and new engine section, realised how much more was wrong and gave up on it.
Was further disappointed that the other Firefox model here M-31 Firefox, scale plane replica never made it to sale

So decided to take matters in my own hands and build an accurate model myself. In trying to create isometric drawings from the 2D plans I realised they were probably only a quickly drawn starting point for the model builders since areas from the side to top and bottom views didn't actually line up, not much out but certainly not a finished plan. I think they were the plans drawn that appear on the table when Baranovich is talking to Gant about the plane, "Remember to think in russian Mr Gant, you cannot think in English and transpose, do you think you can do that", yes I have watched the film a few times...

So have spent many, many hours with screen grabs from the bluray release, a very useful early copy of Cinefex magazine, and some excellent photo quality movie pics picked up from good 'ole ebay. I was able to get enough references so I could see where it needed tweaking. There are not many places in the film where you get a true flat top, side and bottom views and you hardly see the back at all, but luckily there are some good reference pics from Cinefex, not sure I can post these here?
It is possible to "fix" some images by perspective correcting in Photoshop so you can get at least get an accurate front to back or side to side relative dimensions.
Once I was happy that it was about as close as I was going to get without an original filming miniature to hand, I started a 3D model.
Had been using Google Sketchup for other work so was fairly competent with it, and there are so many incredibly useful plugins you can do just about anything you can do in the more expensive packages easier and possibly faster, certainly cheaper.
I still have a way to go, most it it past where the wings meet the fuselage is just roughed out at the moment so I can get the same view as reference pics and clear screen grabs and overlay them. In doing so realised I probably didn't need to spend so much time on the 2D plans as there were still parts that were not right when viewed in 3D, live and learn.
I'm hoping to be able to 3D print most of it as I invested in a 3D printer for other prototyping work, and had wanted one for ages anyway, so was a good excuse :)
As it's a 3D print it can be any scale really, but want a big sucker so going for 1/24 which makes it about 31 inches or 80cm long, still tempted to do a full 1/12 63" studio scale one, but I don't know where I would put it.
I have done a couple of test prints of the nose, which is a bitch to get right, and having it in my hand helped me see where it was still slightly off, so have made adjustment and I am confident it's pretty damn close to perfect, tell me what you think.

Few screengrabs showing the starting 2D plans and where I am currently, last one shows the canards swung back, which you see for all of about 3 seconds in the film, but looks cool.

Thanks

Jon
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Jon , it has been over 5 years since I sent you a deposit for the larger scale Firefox. You sent me this message two years ago and I haven't heard anything since ? Can we please wrap this up ?

Jon Oakey <jon.oakey@btconnect.com>​

Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 1:48 PM
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Hi Bill!

Saw your post on the forum, then went hunting and found this in my spam folder, I really thought something had happened to you after I had no reply to mails I sent.

I will get on with the 1/12, in fact I will re-print some parts as I have much better printer now.

Jon
 
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