Entertainment things everyone else is wrong about, and you are right about.

Ok, I'll play, too. Here's a few for ya.

1. TLJ sucks. No, it doesn't. It's a fantastic film with a ton of interesting messages in it. However, as a sequel to TFA and as the middle chapter between TFA and TROS, it's really, really out of place. It didn't have to be, though. That film threw down the gauntlet and challenged the people in charge of the franchise to think bigger than just reiterating what's been done before. But they chickened out and went with recycled plots, and we got TROS. TLJ was great because it laughs and tells you that all the build-up that JJ Abrams created in TFA was a bunch of meaningless chicanery with no soul. TLJ purposefully broke down all the conventions of Star Wars films and cleared the ground to start again with something new, stylistically, structurally, and even in-universe for the characters. It was incredibly ambitious, but the producers flinched in the wake of irate fans who want their heroes preserved in amber

2. TROS sucks. I mean....not exactly. TROS was a rushed, slapped together rollercoaster ride...but it would've worked better if it had been the capstone to an entire trilogy of JJ Abrams films. I don't think I'd have liked them, but they'd have held together a hell of a lot better as a trilogy. TFA is a roller-coaster, too, which made sense as the re-launch of the franchise, but it fell victim to the whole "mystery box" nonsense that propels a lot of Abrams' material. But those two films -- if connected by a similar middle roller-coaster film -- would've "worked" as sequels better than the stylistic and narrative whipsawing we get with TLJ in the middle.

3. More is better. No, it isn't. More is just more. And much of the time, more is worse. Stories should have endings and not go on forever. Settings can go on forever, though. That's how franchises should be handled. They aren't the continuing stories of XYZ set of characters; they're settings within which you can tell tons of different stories. And if they can't work as a setting, because they're too focused on a character? Then don't turn them into a franchise. I mean, I love me some Bond films, and can find things to enjoy in all of them (yes, even Moonraker), but they are the perfect embodiment of a franchise being more of a "setting" than a character. You can make Bond a character, but then his story needs an end. (Which it seems we've come to with the latest one, and I'm fine with.)

4. The Star Wars EU was good. No it ****ing wasn't, and it didn't deserve to be preserved. It was, by and large, garbage. The initial Zahn trilogy was great and captured the vibe of the films. The Rogue Squadron books were decent, too. Beyond that? Pretty much just crap, at least up to when I stepped off that merry-go-round. The books were really never good. You just liked them because you were 14 and your taste was crap back then, and you were just happy for "more of the same" and because they were all the Star Wars that you could get back then. Because that's really all those books were, for the most part: more of the same. It's fine. You don't have to feel bad about it. My tastes were crap then, too, and I gobbled that stuff up. But in hindsight? It was crap. The best part about it wasn't the stories, but rather the setting and worldbuilding, and the vast bulk of that had nothing to do with the novels at all, but rather with the good people at West End Games going all the way back to 1987.

5. DS9 is better than Babylon 5. Hahahahaha, no. No, it very much isn't. Babylon 5 is an actual story and is a monumental achievement in television history, having been written almost entirely by one guy who remained showrunner for it's entire 5-season run. DS9 doesn't grow a story until about 3/4 of the way in. It's fine for Star Trek, and better than some other Trek stuff, but it was in no way better than B5.

1. I agree to an extent. Considering it's a part 2, it IS kind of beholden to part one. If it was part one, then yeah, i'm open to seeing where it goes with one exception - no character assassination, but that's complete separate argument. When you're part 2 of three, you have the duty to continue and flesh out what was begun in part one. When you decide throw it out the window and try and start anew - it's an utter failure of a part 2.

2. I thought TROS was about as good as it could be under the circumstances. Lose your featured OT actor right before filming was about to begin, losing the original director, bringing in a new team to direct and then having to rewrite based on losing Carrie AND trying to over compensate for the legitimate criticisms of part 2 (not the troll garbage), and having to do it all to hit a pre-determined release date that really limited you with all that you were trying to do, honestly, not sure how you do much better. But, I think a lot of the issues also are due to no cohesive plan.

3. More CAN be better, but it isn't always. I'm a firm believe of it takes as long to tell the story as it takes to tell the story. If you can do that in 90 minutes, or 120 minutes. Great. If you need 400...well, you need a trilogy :) I thought Stranger Things 4 illustrated that perfectly. To me that was literally the equivalent of putting a full book on screen. Loved it.

4. Pretty much agree. There was a lot of bad and contradictory stuff in the EU. Heir to the Empire was great (obviously i liked that given my screen name :)) and maybe i'm the minority, but i also really liked the jedi academy trilogy. Past that nothing was really special or that memorable. Not to mention every author and reader was given warning before the first book was published that the should LFL make any more movies, they were not beholden to anything in the EU.

5. Don't know. Never say B5 :)
 
Game of Thrones is overrated. I read the first 100 pages of the first book and never picked it up again. I saw the pilot to the show and had zero interest to follow any longer. What I saw and read felt like it was played for shock value rather than anything else. Maybe it got better as it went but it just never appealed to me.
 
Game of Thrones is overrated. I read the first 100 pages of the first book and never picked it up again. I saw the pilot to the show and had zero interest to follow any longer. What I saw and read felt like it was played for shock value rather than anything else. Maybe it got better as it went but it just never appealed to me.

I agree. I never read the books but I've seen a few seaons of the show. It's not bad but it's overrated.


I feel the same way about Harry Potter. That's probably down to my age. HP felt like a lot of the kid-oriented fantasy stuff we got back in the 1980s. The Harry Potter fan generation was young enough to have missed all that.

When Star Wars came out there was a similar sort of age cutoff to the appeal. A lot of older people didn't see what all the fuss was about.
 
In modern movies? Yes. If you want to see why people love car chases, watch Bullit with Steve McQueen. That is the best traditional car chase I've ever seen in a movie. What's even more impressive is that McQueen himself did all the driving. I really need to buy a copy of that movie!
 
As a gearhead, IMO most car chases are done crappily.

What makes a chase on foot interesting? Same rules apply. Watching two guys drive fast for no reason is no more interesting than watching two guys run fast for no reason.

With the typical boring car chase, you usually know the outcome before it starts. They check off a list of cliches. The directing/editing is trying too hard to be 'intense' and you cannot see what the hell is going on. Etc. Just weak filmmaking in general.


Another factor is that modern cars inherently look less dramatic in action. Older cars would visibly sway & bounce when they were driven hard. The old suspensions were taller & softer and the tires didn't grip very well.

In the push to make cars perform better, modern car designers have taken most of the drama out of their motions. The whole point of sway bars in the suspension is to hold the body level (prevent it from leaning to the side) while the car is cornering hard. The whole point of shock absorber valving is to make the body stay poised in place while the road surface varies underneath it. Etc.
 
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As a gearhead, IMO most car chases are done crappily.

What makes a chase on foot interesting? Same rules apply. Watching two guys drive fast for no reason is no more interesting than watching two guys run fast for no reason.

With the typical boring car chase, you usually know the outcome before it starts. They check off a list of cliches. The directing/editing is trying too hard to be 'intense' and you cannot see what the hell is going on. Etc. Just weak filmmaking in general.


Another factor is that modern cars inherently look less dramatic in action. Older cars would visibly sway & bounce when they were driven hard. The old suspensions were taller & softer and the tires didn't grip very well.

In the push to make cars perform better, modern car designers have taken most of the drama out of their motions. The whole point of sway bars in the suspension is to hold the body level (prevent it from leaning to the side) while the car is cornering hard. The whole point of shock absorber valving is to make the body stay poised in place while the road surface varies underneath it. Etc.
Can't get any better than this...lol

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In modern movies? Yes. If you want to see why people love car chases, watch Bullit with Steve McQueen. That is the best traditional car chase I've ever seen in a movie. What's even more impressive is that McQueen himself did all the driving. I really need to buy a copy of that movie!
I don't think he really did all of the driving. I think it is more of a case like with The Great Escape where everyone thought he did all of the stunts on the motorcycle but it was actually his stuntman that did the most dangerous stunts like jumping the fence.
 
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Regardless it's still one of the best chase scenes I've ever watched.
I agree 100%. It was actually the same guy, Bud Ekins, that did a lot of the driving in Bullet and did the jump in The Great Escape. Apparently he was McQueens stunt double for a lot of his movies. Make no mistake, he did a lot of his own stunts but there were a few that he didn't do.
 
Stuntmen are critical. They exist for a very important reason. You would need to be an idiot to risk the entire production on one, single, stunt.

Denigrating a production for using stuntmen in extremely dangerous sequences is like criticizing a director for not doing his own camera work.
 
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