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[Rizop]

Wow! I should have bought 2.

It’s my favorite ship of all time, so I ended up buying two. Not intending to resell, just an impulse buy. I’ve always wanted a large model of this since I was a kid, but a large die cast version was impossible to imagine. Needless to say, I splurged lol

 

[Jamesfett]

Nah. Why would you need 2 anyhow?

Because if less is more, just think how much more is more!

 

[floron]

I eat my words. They did get the saucer lighting done. wow!

 

[xlowes]

I eat my words. They did get the saucer lighting done. wow!

Would you like a little Crow with that ?

 

[floron]

Delicious, delicious crow!

 

[xlowes]

Ke

Delicious, delicious crow!

Ketchup anyone ?

 

[phasersonthrill]

Glad they provided an update, I’m seeing quite a few comments online being raised over the size of the panel gaps, giving a toylike appearance and breaking up the registry and lettering on the primary and secondary hulls. Perhaps the consulting team can address that?

 

[Rizop]

Glad they provided an update, I’m seeing quite a few comments online being raised over the size of the panel gaps, giving a toylike appearance and breaking up the registry and lettering on the primary and secondary hulls. Perhaps the consulting team can address that?

I saw that too. Honestly it’s probably the only thing holding this amazing piece back. Even though there would be a delay, maybe the existing tooling could be modified to minimize this some? They’re in the debugging stage so maybe something could be done

 

[The7thSeal]

Is there anything to be gleaned from the shuttle bay? At first, I thought the windows left were the arboretum but I guess not.

 

[RevelationSpace]

There won't be anything they can do about the registry I don't think, tampo printing doesn't cope well with narrow recesses like that. The only option would be to make the panels far more shallow, but they won't do that now either, not least because they've said several times before that you can't do subtle detailing with die cast.

Limitations like that are just inherent to the way these are made, sadly. It's one reason why I hope they ditch the metal next time and make future models from more traditional materials. If they'd made this from plastic with a metal armature it would've been even more special than it already is, though it would've come with its own problems.

 

[The7thSeal]

There won't be anything they can do about the registry I don't think, tampo printing doesn't cope well with narrow recesses like that. The only option would be to make the panels far more shallow, but they won't do that now either, not least because they've said several times before that you can't do subtle detailing with die cast.

Limitations like that are just inherent to the way these are made, sadly. It's one reason when I hope they ditch the metal next time and make future models from more traditional materials. If they'd made this from plastic with a metal armature it would've been even more special than it already is, though it would've come with its own problems.

I think you’re right, I doubt there’s much that can be done about the panel lines this far into the project but who knows. If I was a fine model builder it might bother me, but I’m not so it doesn’t really.

I disagree with you on the plastic with inner structure however. What makes this special is that it’s DIE-CAST, what Tomy do. It may be impractically so but that it’s uniqueness for me. If I wanted other, I’d embark on a 1/350 polar lights.

 

[Rizop]

There won't be anything they can do about the registry I don't think, tampo printing doesn't cope well with narrow recesses like that. The only option would be to make the panels far more shallow, but they won't do that now either, not least because they've said several times before that you can't do subtle detailing with die cast.

Limitations like that are just inherent to the way these are made, sadly. It's one reason when I hope they ditch the metal next time and make future models from more traditional materials. If they'd made this from plastic with a metal armature it would've been even more special than it already is, though it would've come with its own problems.

You’re probably right. Hopefully something can be done. An interesting detail on the Tomy TOS is the sides of the front of the secondary hull by the deflector dish. There’s these pretty fine horizontal lines that show some good detail.

 

[Rizop]

Is there anything to be gleaned from the shuttle bay? At first, I thought the windows left were the arboretum but I guess not.

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It’s so hard to tell. The detail on the ceiling looks really cool. It’s blurry further in, but I’m wondering if they’ve built out further into the secondary hull; if you look further back there seems to be some blurred out detail and lights, but I’m not sure if that’s a reflection

 

[phase pistol]

Karl Tate here, I'm a fan consultant to TOMY on the project.

The wide engraved gridlines are a function of the diecast metal process. They are as thin as the factory could make them. To get thinner the whole model would have had to have been made of plastic. This is a licensed "die cast" model that can have a certain percentage of plastic construction but not that much.

Areas on the model where you see finer detail and thinner lines are plastic parts.

As it is the engraved lines are about twice the thickness they "should" be, to be in-scale.

The TOMY hangar bay stops short with a conceptual wall or door at the forward end (the yellow area in the Probert drawing). The landing bay and cargo area seen in TMP take up most of the volume of the secondary hull and was just not possible to do for this product.

The matte paintings of the cargo/hangar area in the film shows retracted door panels between the shuttle lift and the cargo staging area. For TOMY's model we added a conceptual second door between the shuttle lift and the landing floor.

The prototype shown at Star Trek Las Vegas last August also had this forward landing bay door. I think this is a reasonable extrapolation if not strictly accurate.

 

[Rizop]

Karl Tate here, I'm a fan consultant to TOMY on the project.

The wide engraved gridlines are a function of the diecast metal process. They are as thin as the factory could make them. To get thinner the whole model would have had to have been made of plastic. This is a licensed "die cast" model that can have a certain percentage of plastic construction but not that much.

Areas on the model where you see finer detail and thinner lines are plastic parts.

As it is the engraved lines are about twice the thickness they "should" be, to be in-scale.

The TOMY hangar bay stops short with a conceptual wall or door at the forward end (the yellow area in the Probert drawing). The landing bay and cargo area seen in TMP take up most of the volume of the secondary hull and was just not possible to do for this product.

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The matte paintings of the cargo/hangar area in the film shows retracted door panels between the shuttle lift and the cargo staging area. For TOMY's model we added a conceptual second door between the shuttle lift and the landing floor.

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The prototype shown at Star Trek Las Vegas last August also had this forward landing bay door. I think this is a reasonable extrapolation if not strictly accurate.

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Great comments and insight. Thanks Karl! I’d imagine the panel lines look much better in person as photos always seem to exacerbate things. Can’t wait to see more images of the irridescent paint, as the images already shared look really good!

 

[Jamesfett]

Karl Tate here, I'm a fan consultant to TOMY on the project.

The wide engraved gridlines are a function of the diecast metal process. They are as thin as the factory could make them. To get thinner the whole model would have had to have been made of plastic. This is a licensed "die cast" model that can have a certain percentage of plastic construction but not that much.

Areas on the model where you see finer detail and thinner lines are plastic parts.

As it is the engraved lines are about twice the thickness they "should" be, to be in-scale.

The TOMY hangar bay stops short with a conceptual wall or door at the forward end (the yellow area in the Probert drawing). The landing bay and cargo area seen in TMP take up most of the volume of the secondary hull and was just not possible to do for this product.

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The matte paintings of the cargo/hangar area in the film shows retracted door panels between the shuttle lift and the cargo staging area. For TOMY's model we added a conceptual second door between the shuttle lift and the landing floor.

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The prototype shown at Star Trek Las Vegas last August also had this forward landing bay door. I think this is a reasonable extrapolation if not strictly accurate.

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You and all of them are beyond awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still can't believe we are getting this.

Make the Excelsior and Enterprise E and I will have your baby. I will go through the operation just for you.

 

[phase pistol]

Great comments and insight. Thanks Karl! I’d imagine the panel lines look much better in person as photos always seem to exacerbate things. Can’t wait to see more images of the irridescent paint, as the images already shared look really good!

Thanks. My opinion is that it looks great in person! There are of course issues of brightness and color to be fixed but overall I am very pleased with how it is coming out.

 

[phase pistol]

You and all of them are beyond awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still can't believe we are getting this.

Make the Excelsior and Enterprise E and I will have you baby. I will go through the operation just for you.

That won't be necessary but I do hope you enjoy the model when it is finally shipped! lol

 

[Rizop]

That won't be necessary but I do hope you enjoy the model when it is finally shipped! lol

That hilarious. I’m sure the D won out in the survey but my dream would be the reliant first! I don’t think it’s ever been done in this scale. Plus the aztecing and TMP style engineering would hopefully make for an easier transition from the refit.

I don’t take things for granted but the D would be an instant seller at literally any time! That’s why i would love a reliant first lol. I’d also have a baby as well haha

 

[1138sw]

Karl Tate here, I'm a fan consultant to TOMY on the project.

The wide engraved gridlines are a function of the diecast metal process. They are as thin as the factory could make them. To get thinner the whole model would have had to have been made of plastic. This is a licensed "die cast" model that can have a certain percentage of plastic construction but not that much.

Areas on the model where you see finer detail and thinner lines are plastic parts.

As it is the engraved lines are about twice the thickness they "should" be, to be in-scale.

The TOMY hangar bay stops short with a conceptual wall or door at the forward end (the yellow area in the Probert drawing). The landing bay and cargo area seen in TMP take up most of the volume of the secondary hull and was just not possible to do for this product.

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The matte paintings of the cargo/hangar area in the film shows retracted door panels between the shuttle lift and the cargo staging area. For TOMY's model we added a conceptual second door between the shuttle lift and the landing floor.

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The prototype shown at Star Trek Las Vegas last August also had this forward landing bay door. I think this is a reasonable extrapolation if not strictly accurate.

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Thank you for the clarifications! You and TOMY are doing a fantastic job! I am so excited for this! So looking forward to the REFIT AND THE NEXT TOMY PROJECT…THE D!