Lightning
Master Member
I started thinking about him in the role after remembering the discussion back in the 90s of recasting Indy with Dennis Quaid.
Disney planning to reboot the Indiana Jones franchise
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I started thinking about him in the role after remembering the discussion back in the 90s of recasting Indy with Dennis Quaid.
But SOMEHOW THE PILOT RETURNS.......This is what I think about the idea
I am firmly in the Shortround camp of possibilities. You know why? Because I wouldn't need to be systematically brainwashed in order to accept the idea that Shortround had an adventurous life after meeting Indiana.
I make no apologies about not accepting these crazy reboots and stupid lead character destroying plots where they try to birth a new generation WHILE KILLING THE OLD ONE. Seriously, that is such a communist theme: Just steal what the previous generation built because you are the chosen one, born to rule, special from birth, without any previous training AND you can have anything you want, without working for it nor showing any respect for the owner of the thing you're stealing. That older generation is so lame and so wrong about everything.......
It just doesn't work as a storyline nor in real life.
Meanwhile, back in believable land, Shortround was quick and smart and brave like Jones and I would love to see what he did and does. He is NOT Indiana Jones. He is Shortround, he can even go by his real, in story, name and just reference, once, that Indiana called him Shortround. We loved Shortround. How much more obvious can it be for possible additional content?
This is the heart of the issue: Truly insane people, with no grasp of logic nor awareness of current society, are creating content for an audience that does NOT exist but the real audience is starving and scrambling for the few scraps being thrown out.
Write a believable, logical, not recently released from therapy, storyline. You must reign in the stupid. You must. This is second grade level writing we are getting.
When I was 5, I would hear kids say, "Can't we play something else? We always play (insert favorite theme of the kid whose house we are currently at)". And our "play" was not plugged into the wall. We were running around the entire property acting out our part in today's episode of (insert favorite theme of....ya you get it). We would play within the reality and rules of the storyline we knew, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Star Wars, cowboy adventures, on and on. BUT, if some kid did something out of possibility in our current universe, whoa baby, that game came to a halt and we hammered out why that wasn't fair, nor possible in this universe or story. If you want to play ESCALATE THE POSSIBILITIES into oblivion, in order to always be the winner, you lost ALL of your friends. No one upon no one wants to play with someone who just twists the story out of possibility in order to make themselves the ruler or the winner (every time).
I swear these producers and directors were just spoiled children who lost all of their friends because they always had to one up the next kid and finally everyone just stopped coming over and now they have grown up but not mentally or emotionally. It is truly scary how accurate that summation seems to be.
It has to fit logically, in the storyline, or no one wants to play with you, Billy.
I make no apologies about not accepting these crazy reboots and stupid lead character destroying plots where they try to birth a new generation WHILE KILLING THE OLD ONE. Seriously, that is such a communist theme: Just steal what the previous generation built because you are the chosen one, born to rule, special from birth, without any previous training AND you can have anything you want, without working for it nor showing any respect for the owner of the thing you're stealing. That older generation is so lame and so wrong about everything.......
It just doesn't work as a storyline nor in real life.
Meanwhile, back in believable land, Shortround was quick and smart and brave like Jones and I would love to see what he did and does. He is NOT Indiana Jones. He is Shortround, he can even go by his real, in story, name and just reference, once, that Indiana called him Shortround. We loved Shortround. How much more obvious can it be for possible additional content?
This is the heart of the issue: Truly insane people, with no grasp of logic nor awareness of current society, are creating content for an audience that does NOT exist but the real audience is starving and scrambling for the few scraps being thrown out.
Write a believable, logical, not recently released from therapy, storyline. You must reign in the stupid. You must. This is second grade level writing we are getting.
When I was 5, I would hear kids say, "Can't we play something else? We always play (insert favorite theme of the kid whose house we are currently at)". And our "play" was not plugged into the wall. We were running around the entire property acting out our part in today's episode of (insert favorite theme of....ya you get it). We would play within the reality and rules of the storyline we knew, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Star Wars, cowboy adventures, on and on. BUT, if some kid did something out of possibility in our current universe, whoa baby, that game came to a halt and we hammered out why that wasn't fair, nor possible in this universe or story. If you want to play ESCALATE THE POSSIBILITIES into oblivion, in order to always be the winner, you lost ALL of your friends. No one upon no one wants to play with someone who just twists the story out of possibility in order to make themselves the ruler or the winner (every time).
I swear these producers and directors were just spoiled children who lost all of their friends because they always had to one up the next kid and finally everyone just stopped coming over and now they have grown up but not mentally or emotionally. It is truly scary how accurate that summation seems to be.
It has to fit logically, in the storyline, or no one wants to play with you, Billy.
They would make more money creating really good Indiana Jones games than they ever will trying to reboot the franchise.
That's probably the smartest way forward no matter where they want to end up.
They should forget about TV/movies and just focus on making good games for the rest of the 2020s. Then consider doing new movies (if Hollywood still exists) off the steam of the new games.
Either way they need to quit relying on the Harrison trilogy to sell it. It's been too long. The 1980s are as far removed from today as the Nazi era was from the 1980s.
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The last Indiana Jones game that came out did well, LucasGames really needs to create their own NaughtyDog studio for future games if they are smart.
I’m gonna play devils advocate…
I think it would be good for the next generations to have Indiana Jones adventures - the reality is they’re not gonna watch the original trilogy.
They’re just not. They look old and they sound old to young eyes
I’m 48 and I still think Raiders sounds the exactly same as the Indiana Jones stunt spectacular I saw at Universal Studios when I was eight.
Don’t get me wrong. I love these movies more than anything.
But I don’t care if they reboot it - it won’t be for me. It’ll be for the next generation.
And if it works good, they have their Indiana Jones.
If it doesn’t, who cares, I don’t watch the new Indiana Jones movies. I just watched the original trilogy. The new didn’t ruin the old for me. I don’t know why it ruins it for everyone else.
I just taught my class at a film school today and asked who’s seen diehard and not a single person had.
Only a few people had seen Star Wars.
Everyone has seen the Marvel movies.
Almost everyone saw sinners.
I show a clip from Indiana Jones and the last Crusade… in a section about choices characters make… I literally show the “choose, but choose wisely” scene.
I had to explain to a class of mid 20-year-olds the plot of Indiana Jones and the last Crusade
Who he was as a character.
AND THIS WAS A FILM SCHOOL.
Few of that gen and younger want to watch that trilogy - that’s for us. Let them have their own. Who cares?
(Yes I’m aware it’s more about the money grab from Disney than giving someone their own Indiana Jones, but I’m trying to take it from a different respective… maybe Indiana Jones should be as immortal as James Bond)
I think it would be good for the next generations to have Indiana Jones adventures - the reality is they’re not gonna watch the original trilogy.
They’re just not. They look old and they sound old to young eyes
I’m 48 and I still think Raiders sounds the exactly same as the Indiana Jones stunt spectacular I saw at Universal Studios when I was eight.
Don’t get me wrong. I love these movies more than anything.
But I don’t care if they reboot it - it won’t be for me. It’ll be for the next generation.
And if it works good, they have their Indiana Jones.
If it doesn’t, who cares, I don’t watch the new Indiana Jones movies. I just watched the original trilogy. The new didn’t ruin the old for me. I don’t know why it ruins it for everyone else.
I just taught my class at a film school today and asked who’s seen diehard and not a single person had.
Only a few people had seen Star Wars.
Everyone has seen the Marvel movies.
Almost everyone saw sinners.
I show a clip from Indiana Jones and the last Crusade… in a section about choices characters make… I literally show the “choose, but choose wisely” scene.
I had to explain to a class of mid 20-year-olds the plot of Indiana Jones and the last Crusade
Who he was as a character.
AND THIS WAS A FILM SCHOOL.
Few of that gen and younger want to watch that trilogy - that’s for us. Let them have their own. Who cares?
(Yes I’m aware it’s more about the money grab from Disney than giving someone their own Indiana Jones, but I’m trying to take it from a different respective… maybe Indiana Jones should be as immortal as James Bond)
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Who is doing a run?
Always on the hunt for new gear for my Indy costume.
"Fly"? Yes.This is what I think about the idea
"Land"? No.
click click click click, what the ....... oh friggin cra.......
Wakeem
Sr Member
I was one of those that thought Dial of Destiny would have something to do with the Fountain of Youth. I can't remember why though.
But then I also thought that Star Trek 2009 would end with the younger crew as the Original Crew somewhere between the end of The Original Series and the beginning of The Motion Picture. Never did I think we would get this terrible alternate Star Trek universe and the original Spock stuck there even though he had a time travel ship!
Perhaps the whole in universe switch between older actor to younger actor is just too obvious. I do think a new Indiana Jones will happen though. Whether Harrison Ford is still around or not. Probably need more time to forget the recent bad movie though. I think there is some theory about how long it takes for audiences to forget the bad entry and then look forward to the new one.
I remember mentioning somewhere around here about parents and what they decide to show kids or the appreciation or perhaps just making kids aware of older movies and TV shows. How I never thought old shows were "unwatchable" as a kid. I assumed that perhaps I was around more theater type stuff as my school had like 2 or 3 theaters and some other connections.
But still, and there is nothing wrong with it in a capitalist society. That some if not many people get into things because they see the potential to make money.
I can't imagine not seeing or not knowing about some of the best movies ever while in a Film School. But there are tons of movies and TV shows that I haven't seen. Perhaps too many. Only in the last few years, I got into old Western shows like Cheyenne and Wanted Dead or Alive. Two really good shows that I can't believe I'm late on.
Still stuff like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Die Hard, and Star Wars are some of the most notable and best of some fairly recent movies. And they end up on best of all times lists.
The best example I have and I'm not that old is that as a kid, I remember playing with Universal Monsters action figures. I didn't know Dracula was from the 1930s. But as a kid, I didn't have any problem watching it. And I played videogames and watched modern movies as well. There is far more of an time gap between me and 1930s Dracula or even 1950s TV Westerns than there is compared to your mid 20s film students and those three classic movies.
David3
Sr Member
Yeah, ditto, no effing thank you
Ford is Jones
even a crappy deep fake would do better than someone else trying to emulate the character
Solo / Harrison Ford
Ford is Jones
even a crappy deep fake would do better than someone else trying to emulate the character
Solo / Harrison Ford
I'm not remotely surprised about film students being unfamiliar with Indy.
Most people never see most shows outside their generation. Period.
It's not a matter of quality, or cultural importance, or even their interest in the art form. It's just the sheer number of hours in their life.
Most people never see most shows outside their generation. Period.
It's not a matter of quality, or cultural importance, or even their interest in the art form. It's just the sheer number of hours in their life.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
You bring up the perfect point why it shouldn't be remade. Younger audiences have no connection with it, so who are the suits targeting a reboot at? A recasting that will piss off those who remember the originals, or the newbies who doesn't even know about the old movies and thus wouldn't really care. It's like nostalgia baiting people you aren't aiming for, while trying to lure in the newbies with something they have no connection to...
So... they might as well just make something new.
But the suits have no creativity - I remember a quote from the behind the scenes material for Alien 3, where the suits wanted 10 power loaders fighting 10 alien queens, because they thought that was the only thing that made Aliens a success. And less time and less money to make it.
Well I hope you did the right thing and failed every last one of those Philistines!
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