DISCUSSION OF VARIOUS STUDIO SCALE AT-ATs

I doubt that it will be posable as I said before. I can just imagine the CS department going nuts over phone calls and complaints like " I only moved the leg a little and it completely came off!!"... hehehe of course they might still get those kind of calls depending on who purchases these...
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I still can't see them trying to ship a display case of that size. besides what Tim brought up on the cost of shipping it, the case wouldn't even reach me in one piece and I'm only in Florida... forget trying to have it shipped overseas.
If they DO try to ship it, I can only imagine the size of the shipping box.... it would have to be HUGE!!
And that's not even thinking about he size of the box for the AT-AT alone!!
 
I've had some very large cases shipped to me without incident (so far) so it's certainly possible.

just 2 cents

Tom
 
Okay, guys.

As one of the team who worked on the AT-AT, I can share some answers to your questions.

There were FIVE AT-ATs at the LFL ARCHIVE, not counting the ones that are out on tour. None of the screen used pieces exist in the condition they were first built. Time has done what the Rebel Forces couldn't. That and crappy resins of the day, leeching, and sheer entropy have taken their toll on the AT-ATs.

MR chose the one that was in the best condition, and most representative of how the vehicle looked on screen.

They all differ slighty. It's true that the heads, undercarriage and body shell were cast from a master pattern and therefore SHOULD have all been the same. However their profiles and symmetry are all wonky in different ways - so asserting that the three/four filming miniatures are identical is way off, they're not. Each is a facsimilie (copy) of the original master pattern.

The legs of the animation miniatures were hand machined, assembled and then kit dressing, U-beams etc., was applied individually for detailing. Again, each differs slightly when measured - due to the individual modeler's hand and eye.

There are no additional four panels on the side of the head of the stop motion miniature. There are on the four foot model and they are on the Ertl kit, but not on the armatured AT-AT we followed, sorry.

Paint jobs differ wildly, so does some of the kit bashing that was used to dress in the cast parts on the underside. Some of what people have perceived to be detailing are in fact air bubbles and holes in the castings.

The body was digitized and output by SLA. The wild assymetry from left to right was cleaned up. We sourced original kit parts for detailing.

The AT-AT on display at the New York Fair is the prototype.

There are a few minor discrepancies that have been altered for the production version, including the neck, and the paint job will be addressed. But until that's done and out it is pointless to debate the final piece.

The price includes the case. Yes it's big and yes the case is expensive, but to offer an expensive, museum quality model without some form of dust protection - a killer to models - is crazy.

As for the reasonability of the price? That's up to the individual to decide. However a member here quoted me MORE for a built up and painted unlicenced kit last year which I thought fair then, so I naturally think the MR price is more than reasonable.

I hope I've addressed some of your concerns. I know you guys are passionate about your AT-AT's. I am too. There's still a little while to wait before the final piece is available.

Barry
 
Thanks for the insight on the development of this. I will definitely get one of these. What is the tentative release date?
 
Barry,

PM sent. Thanks for the insight!! Im glad your going to address the neck issue thanks!. Understanding this is a prototype now and everything has calmed a bit.

Please understand the folks on this thread have poured over every detail of "the avaiable" and "not so avaiable" pics of the filming minatures. So the 4 ATATs we have reference of is what we know best.

I did find the reference pics page 171 SW Chronicals of the ATAT your team must of used as it DOES NOT have the extra side details so I do conseed that point.

I have reference that the majority 24 x 53 x 48 cm ATATs have the extra detail to include the 4 fter. Thats why it stuck out to me. Both are correct! Thanks for giving us a insiders look at the building of the beast!

Please chime in with any updates on the fianl product! Were all dying here!

Lastly.. Can you guys add the FLAK 38 parts to the inside ankles? Same details apear on the 4 reference ATATs we have plus it looks cooler more detail that flat styrene!! Please let us know!

Pass on to the ATAT build crew we thank them for this endevour! What a cool piece this will be! Well worth the asking price I think. Christmas is comming early this year my friends! (I hear they work well in the snow too!)

Steve
 
Now if only the dealers knew what the cost was going to be so we could start figuring out how much we need to start saving..... and what kind of discount we might be able to get on it, hehehe!!

ugg listen to me, I told myself I wouldn't break down and get this one..... but it IS really nice, and even though I won't use the case it comes with for it I can put the case to use for some other pieces....
 
I think the MR walker looks VERY nice but there's no way I'll have another grand to invest in this project. Sure, I would love to own one but that just won't happen. I'm sticking to my fan kit, I got so much time and money invested in it that I just can't quit now. Besides, I think it will look pretty smashing when it's all converted and properly finished. Also, it will be fully articulated.
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Am I the only one planning to finish it!?

Steve.
 
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Check reference picture below:
1-4 There are an additonal raised detail that is on all 24 X 53 X 48 cm ATATs .. ok thats 8 details wrong on the MR head ( dont forget the other side..)
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Forgive me on my lack of knowledge on this...
Is the 1-4 he is refering too missing on the other side of MR's ATAT head? I'm not quit understanding what is he is saying as "8" details wrong on the MR head when refering to 1-4...
I found this pic in another thread of those details missing on a MoM pic...
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Lynn



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Ok...here you go.... this photo is one of four different reference ATATs we are working from. The area I am talking about is directly behind the cheek gun turret. Do you see the 4 panels. Smaller on top then get larger towards the middle of the head..

This photo clearly shows the extra raised details there and the ATAT in the photo is not the 4 ft model.

Though Barry said the one they used didnt have these details and I did find reference of the ATAT they must have used. of the 7 medium sized ATATs I have visual evidence that at least four of the had the details. (We have identified the ATATs by thier unique paint jobs.) So after Barry pointed it out I researched and found both are correct. I hope that helped.

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Here is a pic of the ATAT from the Art OF SW tour... it looks like a replacement head first one may have been damaged.. note the raised panels.
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Here is ATAT #3 I call Stripe.. dark marking on the drivers visor.. well you get the idea. Is medium scale ATAT see toy army guy (has raised details)
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Here is Ref Pic ATAT#3 Stripe close up..this ATAT is shot up dark blotches mar the hull must of been leading the charge also a medium sized ATAT (has Raised details)
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Here is ATAT Ref pic #4 I call it Barry. It is the ATAT without the raised Details..
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Here is ATAT ref Head pic #5 I call 4fter. The big one! There a three photos of this one and the overall painting is very "white" very blotchy. The cheek guns have muzzle brakes that dont match thier smaller medium sized brothers, also note the lower detail on the bottom right of the head is different that all the smallers ones.
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I know Im sick.. I named my ATATs .. hey the Y Wing modelers do it too! The Red one.. The Yellow one.
 
As you pointed out, the y-wing builders named them after the colors they had. And the falcon builders named theirs after the size, the 32'', the 5'. But you called one "Barry". Where did that come from?
 
Hey... the reason I call that one "Barry" is he worked on the MR AT-AT and identified it as a version without the raised details. I always assumed that picture was of a unfinihsed atat becuase you can see the side hull plug missing in the larger photo and the weathering is not as heavy as most of the other filming AT-ATs.

So Barry I dentified one in the archives that they used as reference hense the name given.

Both are correct.

After all the disscussion and debate the only thing I see needing addressed is the neck material (out of scale) and overall length of the neck (to long). Other than that the Flak 38 parts can be added easliy enough on the inside ankle. The phillip screw holes the Sweede pointed out can be filled in.

Barry did say they are going to address the neck in this thread that the one at the show was a prototype and not the final product.

S
 
My bad...

I forgot to mention that the phillips screw on the inside of the lower legs will not be on the production model.

They are only on the prototype model so MR/LFL could decide on the pose and lock the legs into position.

Barry
 
Thanks again Barry! Can you tell us how you got the opportunity to work on the MR AT-AT project? Were all extreamley envious... you guys did a great job.

Do you think MR or LF would ever release the ATAT reference pictures? Kind of like the "walk around armor" books seen for 1/35 armor. I think we have all worn out our Chronicals book. Id love to see the 300 or so pictures you guys used as would every other ATAT fan here.. that must of been an awsome project to work on. (got any behind the scenes photos you can share?)

Once again we appreciate you for filling us in on the MR AT-AT future Im shure we all look forward to your next post.

S
 
I've been lucky enough to consult for MR on many projects for the past year.

How did I get the AT-AT job? Steve Dymszo is a friend, and having owned Halcyon Models - a plastic model kit company that specialized in licensed model kits from movies - he asked me to lend my talents to the first Studio Scale project. That and the fact that the Walker is my second favorite Star Wars model after the Millennium Falcon.
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But I'm only one of a team of people working on the AT-AT which includes not only Steve, but many departments - Product Design, Product Development, and Marketing. Each bringing their considerable talents to the table.

Production methods to ensure consistency for 1000 piece runs have to be devised; armatures to ensure no sagging in the years to come; specialist packaging designed and drop-tested, so each AT-AT can survive not only an ocean crossing, but FED-EX delivery to your door. Then there is the collateral and outer packaging so that your collectible looks, well collectible.

Believe me, it is A LOT of hard work by a team of dedicated people to deliver Master Replicas products. I know it's not always appreciated, especially among some prop collectors who ask "Why so many people when artisans do it themselves out of a garage?" - but it's a whole different ball game when licenses, manufacturing, distribution, packaging etc...are involved.

As for ever seeing the Archive pictures? I doubt they will be released for reasons of confidentiality agreements.

Barry
 
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